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Liz Birt
Sandy: Is this source sufficient: ? I know nothing about the article or the subject, but did a search for some text and this came up. Regards, Kablammo 01:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- We can't use a blog, but sometimes they lead us to the reliable sources. When I'm trying to google up reliable sources, I put -blog -forum -wiki -wikipedia at the end to see if anything reliable comes up. I can't find anything on Birt. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- ah, ha .. that does give us some leads to some newspaper articles that will be useful ... I'm looking for them now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- I had thought the testimony would be easy to find but I'm striking out. It may have been prepared comments. Kablammo 01:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC) While transcripts of floor sessions exist, and an autism bill was before the Ill. 94th General Assembly, there do not appear to be transcripts of committee hearings available online. Kablammo 01:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, that surprised me. If they can be located in a library or somewhere, they can still be cited, even if they're not online. For now, I've added back everything I can find, and at least the article is cleaned and untagged. Thanks for the help! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- I had thought the testimony would be easy to find but I'm striking out. It may have been prepared comments. Kablammo 01:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC) While transcripts of floor sessions exist, and an autism bill was before the Ill. 94th General Assembly, there do not appear to be transcripts of committee hearings available online. Kablammo 01:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- ah, ha .. that does give us some leads to some newspaper articles that will be useful ... I'm looking for them now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Re: Fight Club
No problem, thank you for getting back to me! I guess I'll see about including academic interpretations on the film article before I do a content fork. Appreciate the feedback! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 03:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Bryan Jepson
Hi Sandy, I notice you've removed the notability tag from Bryan Jepson without providing an explanation. I'd appreciate if you could let me know why you think he meets the criteria at either Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) or Misplaced Pages:Notability (academics). I tagged this article four months ago, so unless someone edits it soon to explain why he's notable, I intend to nominate it for deletion. Thanks, Sideshow Bob Roberts 05:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, Sideshow, I removed it because I found and added several more independent, secondary reliable sources. I'm generally trying to clean up all of the autism-related articles and don't know anything about this fellow other than what's there; if you disagree that the new sources meet notability, that's fine with me, and an AfD would be fine. If you want to re-add the tag, that's fine too, but I thought the additional sources would be enough. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Re : FARC/MRT(Singapore)
Even though the India FARC is closed please put the MRT one on hold first. We are trying to put the house in order by addressing the concerns first with the nominator directly so that we can possibly avoid the process altogether. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 13:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- No worries. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 16:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
A bargain... ten links for the price of one!
Hey stranger!
Can you take a look into and opine as needed on this request and join the beating up on Frank! I could use any general advice on the 1632 series overall, as at the moment, I'm mainly a one man band. Hopefully, now that I've worked out some templates and methods, (Things are becoming much easier to shorten, as links to explanatory sections such as characters and 1632 institutions allow cutting a lot of verbiage. See Template:34TRR for a good "Bad" example of what "verbosities" needed fixing... that's next on the To-Do in articles.) Any way, my need right now is cites, and cites approaches and that the bargain link! Thanks! // FrankB 16:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Jon Burge
I am writing for your opinion on an issue where I believe you are one of the best arbiters on WP. There was an issue at Jon Burge, where a past version was stubbed by a pair of admins who question the validity of the sources with respect to WP:BLP concerns for a very controversial figure. Could you please weigh in at Talk:Jon Burge#Stubbed.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
FARs
How does Seattle look to you now? There's a few at the bottom that could use an extra kp or rm. Someone seems to work on Riel every day or two, so I can't pull the trigger. -- Marskell (talk) 18:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Although I appreciated the constructive criticism at my RfA, and also the opportunity to respond to it, I have to admit that your comment made me chuckle. Thanks for that, and for your support. I look forward to working with you more to harmonize Misplaced Pages's processes ;-) Geometry guy 20:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Take another look
Hi Sandy. Awadewit and Qp10qp have taken a look at John Knox. I consider myself lucky as they are both historians and they have very high standards. I hope I earned their support. You took a look as well, but a lot has changed since Qp10qp's review. I have since corrected the ndashes. Could you take one more look? And don't spare any criticisms. Thanks! --RelHistBuff (talk) 23:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
This is not right
Conscientous Misplaced Pages editors should not be added to Conflict of Interest lists by a bot, with no warning, no notification, and no means of remedying the wrong. My name has been wrongly listed for more than six hours, I've not been able to get any idea what to do about it or how to remedy this, and nothing has been done in spite of all of these posts.
- User talk:Beetstra#COI
- Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#COI question
- Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Spam#Starting to steam
- User talk:COIBot
Misplaced Pages editors should know that by merely googling up a news source to cite an article that ended up at AfD, a conflict of interest can be claimed against you. This is not right.
- Why aren't we notified?
- How does this happen?
- What is the remedy?
- Can I delete those entries myself?
- How are we supposed to know not to link to certain sites?
Six hours of wrongly being listed as a COI is too much. This is not the right way to treat Wikipeople who care about their reputation. Good night. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have deleted the entry from one page. That doesn't really address the problem. This is news to me—a bot creating reports that compile usernames under the general heading "conflict of interest"? Wow. –Outriggr § 06:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sandy, I'm sorry you didn't get any answers earlier. The COI report you mention is produced by a bot that looks for new links to certain sites for which there have been past COI issues, to try to head off socks continuing with more COI edits. There are loads of tracked sites, including such sites as time.com and cia.gov, and the COI report is just a list of people who posted links to those sites. From this report history for the hispanicbusiness site, it appears that in October editors originating from that site were editing the article Hispanic Business, hence the COI concerns. Your name showing up on the recent report is not a condemnation of the site or of you; it only indicates that you added a link to a 'tracked' site, albeit in a rather vague fashion.
- As a side note: I don't participate in WP:SPAM, and had no prior knowledge of this report at all; I only dug into it because I saw your post here. I think it would be wise for them to rename the report, given the extremely wide net they're using. Maralia (talk) 07:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sandy: This happened to some of us on the Minnesota project. User_talk:Appraiser#Bots_on_the_loose (I think it was the same sort of thing.) The bot operator was asked for whitelisting of the source in question; he complied. Please don't let your experience with an impersonal bot keep you from contributing-- you are far too valuable. Regards, Kablammo (talk) 10:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Sandy, I'm sorry this sat for hours without being responded to. The reports are not intended to imply you are COI editing. They are merely bot generated lists to help human editors review additions of links that have raised concerns but have not yet been black listed. Many additions, like your own, are made in good faith to improve the project, being on the page isn't supposed to imply otherwise. I've replied to your post at WikiProject Spam, and suggested wording changes for the reports to Dirk. I hope this goes some way to reassuring you that your intentions are not being questioned. -- SiobhanHansa 14:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks to everyone who responded and tried to help—particularly Outriggr for removing the offense. I'm putting together a longer response now; this was a very upsetting incident, and it shouldn't happen. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Why it matters
This business troubled me a lot. Thanks to everyone who helped sort it out, but it's not sorted properly until the underlying issue is addressed.
By pure chance—because I followed What links here on an article that I had cited after it was submitted to AfD, to see if it was orphaned—I encountered my name listed on a spam page and a Conflict of Interest Report. Spam and COI are hefty labels for any editor, and particularly one who has gone to great pains to avoid any such issue. I was, to say the least, shocked to find myself there. More troubling was that I was unable to figure how to resolve it, so that needs to be cleaned up so future editors don't go through this.
Here's another reason it mattered to me. The article—¿Por qué no te callas?—was at AfD, its notability questioned. Anyone checking on notability might check "What links here"—as I did—to see if the article could be merged elsewhere or to see if it is orphaned. Editors who don't know me or my editing would have noticed on the very short list at What links here that it was linked to a Spam and COI report. So editors who don't know my editing would see my name as someone involved in COI editing. This needs to be fixed. Not only could it have influenced editors' opinions of me; it could have influenced the AfD, as not everyone would necessarily take the time to understand that I happened to end up on that list because I googled a news source that had been previously involved in a COI. This is not right, and I hope it will be addressed. I was the last to know, because the bot that dumped my name to a spam and COI list didn't dump that same information to me.
In my case, it was resolved by someone else removing my name from those lists; what if I had removed my name? What is the process for resolving this? Having your name associated with COI and spam is not pleasant. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
adding a "wikitable" to The Naked Brothers Band: The Movie
Can you add add a "wikitable" on the section Crew instead of the list that is there on The Naked Brothers Band: The Movie articale, Thanks! --AnnieTigerChucky (talk) 22:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, Annie. I don't agree with the extensive cast and crew lists in these articles, and I don't agree that tables should be added. Here is some information for you to study:
- the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines, part of Misplaced Pages's Manual of style
- samples of Wiki's best film articles can be found at WP:FA#Media
- one sample of one of Wiki's best film articles is Halloween III: Season of the Witch.
- As you'll see, the goal is to write compelling prose about the film, not to include an indiscriminate collection of information. For example, the cast list at The Tic Code does not need to include every non-notable actor who appeared in the film. I hope this helps guide your future article writing efforts. Please do not add these tables to The Tic Code. Also, be sure to have a look at WP:OVERLINKing. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
I already did that on the cast, songs, and special appearance section. Should I revert them back? --AnnieTigerChucky (talk) 22:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- If you like them on the Naked Brothers article, it makes no difference to me; I would not want them added to The Tic Code, as it is linked from the Tourette's articles (a featured article), and is a more significant film. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:45, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Seattle FARC review and a question
Sorry to post directly on your talk page, but the last couple of times I've posted comments on the FARC page it has been a couple of days before there was a response. Can you take a look at what I've done on the Seattle, Washington article and see if I've checked off your concerns about WP:MOSDATE, WP:DASH, and WP:OVERLINK? I also had a question about WP:UNITS. Do things like "4,000 years" and "1,000 people" require a no break space?--Bobblehead 23:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- HI, Booblehead; I'm heading out for the evening so will have to look later. On the non-breaking hard spaces per WP:UNITS, just let common sense be your guide. The idea is to prevent the number being separated from the non-numerical element by line wrap. Ask yourself if a linewrap between the two elements, leaving the number hanging, would look weird. I tend to think any hanging number looks weird, and like to keep them together with either an nbsp or the {{nowrap}} template. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
re. GA and articlehistory
Oops, my mistake...that doesn't usually happen, my bad. Sorry to hassle you, Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 07:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
miles from the tic code movie age.
Dear SandyGeorgia, According to this website http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tic_code/about.php, Miles is 12 not 10, I don't think that Imdb is always accurate and when I watched the movie I am almost positive they said he is 12. Thanx! --AnnieTigerChucky (talk) 18:09, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- Rotten tomatoes isn't as reliable as all of the other sources I posted at the article; please check all of the sources listed at the bottom of The Tic Code. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, there's a problem. He is reported as 10 years old by the New York Times and Variety (as two examples only, there are many more), and as 12 by The Village Voice and the San Francisco Chronicle. I need to dig further; reliable sources conflict, but at any rate, I wouldn't use either IMDb or RottenTomatoes as the source for resolving this. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC) Should I watch it by DVD again and what ever it says on the DVD can I put on Misplaced Pages. Thanx! --AnnieTigerChucky (talk) 18:41, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Preity Zinta
Hello Sandy!
The Zinta article has gone through major c/e, reliability and neutrality issues were addressed, it was toned down etc. A big part of it was cut down (even the 65% success ratio haha... :)). Could you please tell me what your opinion on that is now? mmm and could you please help with some MOS problems if you have the time for it?
Best regards, Shahid • 23:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- Quick glance, there are still box office figures sourced to IMDb, which is not a reliable source. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi sandy. I am trying to help improve the article a little bit. here are quite a lot to do. Yes, IMDb (and a few other debated sources) are there. We have been able to remove most of the debatable sources, except a few supporting the box office data. We are trying to take care of those.
- Although the work was not complete, I thought to go for a PR. Do you see any other MoS issues? I went through almost all the references a few days back. There are still a few references which do not foloow the usual pattern (use of templates). Will convert them to templates soon. Any other thing you see?
- And, how are you? I met Raul654 and others a few days back in a NYC meetup!--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, now I'm sorry I didn't go! I'm glad you're on the job :-) I'll peek in again tomorrow. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Shut up
I've commented there. Thanks for bringing the issue to my attention. Titoxd 16:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- No problem. By the way, if you use "Por qué", it automatically denotes a question; "porque" would be the corresponding declarative form. The reason behind it is to make little kids in elementary school cry... Titoxd 16:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well, that works too. :) Piscina is femenine, by the way. Titoxd 16:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Rotavirus
Dear Sandy. Thanks for your review of the article and your helpful comments. I'll work on it this week. Sorry about deleting that old talk, I'll get the hang of this one day, I am learning all the time. Best wishes, Graham. --GrahamColm 18:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Here ya go!
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The Working Woman's Barnstar | |
| SandyGeorgia, I award you the Working Woman's Barnstar for your efforts to assist in the development of Youngstown, Ohio, a working man's city, in it's attempt to become a Featured Article. While the outcome is not yet known, your edits and advice clearly improved the article.Daysleeper47 (talk) 20:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC) |
Stuttering
If you have a minute I would be grateful for some help and advice on the Stuttering page. User:TdKehoe has reappeared along with an IP that I presume is him. User:Stutterman also reverted the article to the version before your and my edits, with an interesting edit summary h172470214 that makes me think it may also be Tdkehoe. I have reverted back, but would be glad of some other eyes on the situation, especially one who knows the history. --Slp1 (talk) 01:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)