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Name

This guy lives in England, and writes in English. The name of the author, in the book he wrote, is Mihai Suba. Gene Nygaard (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Improper page moves by User:Husond

See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Improper page moves by Husond. Gene Nygaard (talk) 14:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

British or Romanian citizen

Does anyyone know the status of citizenship. Was assuming from the sentence 'sought political asylum in Britain' that he was British however the edit from Husond implies otherwise. SunCreator (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

If he was born in Romania, has a Romanian name and is listed as a Romanian player, then I guess we should assume he's a Romanian citizen unless proved otherwise. Húsönd 18:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we should assume anything, but rather try and establish some facts. SunCreator (talk) 19:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Romanian citizenship is acquired by birth, which means that this person either is a Romanian or was a Romanian. Therefore, if he no longer is a Romanian, we should have a source for that. Because unless that information surfaces, people have no reason to presume that he's no longer Romanian. I think it's common sense. Húsönd 19:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Citizenship isn't the issue here. Gene Nygaard (talk) 13:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Husond's skirting of the three-revert rule

Husond has skirted the three-revert rule by making his third revert in six hours, and then in the very same minute as his last reversion going to ] and requesting that his version be protected (gaming the system to his advantage what he knows from handing such requests on a regular basis).

Even that has some appearances of collusion beforehand. Within five minutes of his request, before Husond even there were two different editors who protected the page (one of them three times)—one of them before Husond decided to reword the request he had just written, four minutes later. There might, of course, be a perfectly logical explanation, but that is not the norm for those requested moves, and there wasn't much time for any editor granting the protection to make an independent investigation fo the circumstances.

After making his second revert, Husond has added a source with the "Mihai Şuba" spelling in the Romanian language. Still no evidence whatsoever of the use of anything other than "Mihai Suba" in the English language, anywhere untainted by Misplaced Pages.

That is sufficient to get the variant spelling included in the article, and probably in the lead section. But that is all that has been established so far. We still need to name the article by the name in which he is best known in English, and that name is the name under which he authored his English-language book, and the name by which he is known in at least the vast majority, if not all, of the English language sources which have not taken their information from the misleading pages of Misplaced Pages. Gene Nygaard (talk) 13:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Krakatoa's statement

Hmm, I appear to have quite accidentally ignited World War III. I was the original author of the article in question. Husond notified me on my talk page of the resulting controversy. In case anyone cares about my views and the genesis of my use of "Şuba" rather than "Suba," this is what happened. I wrote the article First move advantage in chess and cited therein a book by Mr. _uba. I have a copy of that book, "Dynamic Chess Strategy" by Mihai Suba (that's how it's spelled on the title and cover page). I accordingly spelled the name "Suba" in First move advantage in chess. Upon seeing a redlink in the article, I searched Misplaced Pages for "Mihai Suba" and found that there was no article on him, but that he was mentioned (as "Mihai Şuba") in the article on the Romanian Chess Championship. Knowing how obsessive people are about proper punctuation of names and not wanting to offend anyone (Hah! Silly me!) , I wrote the article on "Mihai Şuba" and went back and changed my spelling of the name in First move advantage in chess. Gene Nygaard promptly went ballistic and moved the article from Mihai Şuba to Mihai Suba; evidently Husong went counter-ballistic and changed it back. FWIW, all the sources I saw, other than the Romanian Chess Championship article here on Misplaced Pages, used "Suba" rather than "Şuba." I don't really give a @#$%, myself, about the resolution of this tempest in a teapot. Krakatoa (talk) 02:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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