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Blocking IP's

Hi, I see you've blocked 209.66.193.32 once before, for one year. You might consider doing that again, as the IP has started molesting articles again. I just noticed because he did it to a very interesting article I was reading about tarmac. As you can clearly see here http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3A209.66.193.32 it is not exactly the first time the IP has been blocked. How about making it permantent this time :) Sorry for not bothering to log in with my user right now. 80.202.108.45 (talk) 01:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of blocking for another year... Typically IPs are not blocked permanently. –xeno 18:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Bookarmy

Hi Todd, I understand why you deleted the page, and will seek to make it neutral asap. Can you tell me where the page has gone? The article is in my userspace because I created it there first as instructed by Wiki's guidelines. This is my first article so I'm still getting used to Wiki! Also, I wondered what you meant by Google producing nothing "non-trivial"? The site has been mentioned in reputable publications. Somervillerose1 (talk) 10:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The article seems to have been deleted from my userspace too, why is this? Misplaced Pages's guidelines told me to make the page in my userspace first, before publishing it. Can you tell me how to get hold of the article please? I need to access a copy in order to edit it! Somervillerose1 (talk) 10:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't delete the article - rather I proposed its deletion. It was actually deleted by Ged UK (talk · contribs). You had developed the article in your user space which is good but on your user page - which is not good (see Misplaced Pages:User page). I have placed a copy of the old article in your user space at User:Somervillerose1/BookArmy.

As far as the deletion, I proposed it for deletion using a lengthy discussion and peer review at what we call AFD. Unfortunately, our peers determined that the article didn't deserve such a discussion and speedily deleted it. You can see the brief discussion here. I know this is seems complicated to new users, but it's how we keep chaos from erupting.

Going forward, the things you probably should learn about to get that article in shape (if it's possible) are:

• Conflict of interest
• Notability
• Articles that appear to be advertisements.

I hope this helps. Happy editing. Toddst1 (talk) 14:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, that's much clearer, thanks Todd. I'll read up on the guidelines and try to make the article adhere to those. Somervillerose1 (talk) 15:03, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Userboxes

How can three userboxes be way too many? I'd say you're closer to having too few :-) Nyttend (talk) 18:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you appreciate the sarcasm there. Toddst1 (talk) 20:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

For your help. Cheers, JNW (talk) 00:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

UAA

To get rid of one obvious violation, see Paul the prick. I figured I would contact you since you were the first UAA admin I saw. :) Ceranllama chat post 00:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Disruptive Vandalism

Hello, I noticed you sent a final warning too Derry City Warlord about his disruptive edits to the page List of hooligan firms. Just to let you know, since you last warned him , there has been two more edits by this user, trying to add the same material on to the page as well. There has also been two similar looking IP's adding the same material. Regards and Thanks Footballgy (talk) 15:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Jojhutton (talk · contribs)

Hello. You have blocked Jojhutton for an external link on his userpage to a seemingly harmless YouTube video because the link could mislead users to think it was an internal link. However, the link is not to material that is offensive or dangerous. I kinda of think that the block was a little much. I also see that another admin has declined the unblock request. Is there more to the story than that? If no would you please reconsider the block? Charles Edward (Talk) 15:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

No more to the story. 12 hours is not that long. Toddst1 (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright. :) Charles Edward (Talk) 15:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey Todd, since there was a prior ANI discussion with no consensus that the link is inappropriate I suggest an unblock would be appropriate. I'm certain a new discussion will now take place, so perhaps clarification or a new consensus will be reached. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll have to agree that the block seems a bit much for something so trivial. Annoying? Certainly. Disruptive enough to be blockable? No. Please reconsider. Thanks —Travis 18:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

• This was raised here. Courtesy note, etc., etc. –xeno 19:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Todd, quick consensus is this was a bad block. Please unblock Joj before this gets carried away. Grsz 19:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Babylon93

I have created Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Babylon93 which includes page blanking and is almost entirely vandalism. Please would you raise a checkuser. I don't know how. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Fails WP:duck test. Indef blocked Toddst1 (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Now 86.165.65.125 (talk · contribs). Kittybrewster ☎ 18:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Lucas Jackson

Why did you delete the article about Lucas Jackson? There was nothing promotional about that entry. He is actually rising in popularity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucasajackson (talk • contribs) 03:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Most appreciated

Thanks for getting back to me. Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 03:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

What

Why did u decline to block Fahadsadah ? He clearly WANTED TO BLOCK EVERYONE TO NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE SANBDOX. THATS CLEARLY VANDALISM, in the TD he said "YOU ARE PWNED YOU CANNOT EDIT THIS PAGE". IT WAS VANDALISM, PUNISH IT. AND BTW, the user Wknight94 tried to delete the petition before and you didn't do anything about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.184.38.148 (talk) 17:22, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Only policies that apply to the sandbox are the non free content ones, and the Libel/Offensive content ones. fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 17:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied on User_talk:fahadsadah Toddst1 (talk) 17:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox Vandalism

The user is an average troll. Very few policies apply to the sandbox, and WP:VANDALISM certainly doesn't. I was just testing something out - what the sandbox was designed for. The user is obviously a troll or someone I have previously pissed off (probably with huggle). fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 17:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied on User_talk:fahadsadah Toddst1 (talk) 17:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

RE: User:Llewellyn Ls

It is, isn't it? Went on for some 2 hours. Caught them while doing some recent changes patrolling. - NeutralHomer • Talk • April 18, 2009 @ 22:48

Thanks! Nah, not an admin. Want to be one one day, but since I was blocked awhile back, I don't see that ever happening. Thanks again...NeutralHomer • Talk • April 18, 2009 @ 22:57

"on wheels" vandal?

Hi, Toddst1: the account User:WHEELS on deals was just created. Does this seem to you like one of the "on wheels" crew or copycats? --Rrburke 22:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Could be. Let's keep an eye open. Toddst1 (talk) 22:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Goose Bay

No worries. I think our SOP is to delete the diff, but do they still need it for the IP address? If you're not sure the prudent thing would be to wait a couple of days and then delete it.--chaser - t 23:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

RCMP just called back asking me to email the link to the DIFF I hope nobody deletes it. Toddst1 (talk) 23:42, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Your opinion of me is irrelevant.

Simply put, I do not consider anyone here 'alive' as you understand the term. You exist as nothing but text to me. Your comments to my page are a minutes worth of time you could have accomplished something with. If you require my assistance with something, feel free to request it. If I have broken any rules, feel free to let me know. If you simply want to tell me what a bad man you think I am, use that time for something constructive instead. HalfShadow 02:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Responding_to_suicidal_individuals#Dealing_with_improper_responses_from_other_editors_to_a_suicide_message is good sense.

In real-life, people die - they don't get deleted, they don't get oversighted. We admins usually try to prevent users from getting blocked. Which is more important: preventing some editor from being blocked or preventing a mentally-unstable teenager from prematurely ending their life? Toddst1 (talk) 15:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Sorry, forgot to talkback you before fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 18:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

User:86.11.100.50 block

If you don't mind, I think your block of User:86.11.100.50 may be relevant here. Is he block evading? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

User:212.219.92.205

Hi, The length of you block of 212.219.92.205 (talk · contribs) seems very long. Just a day to quash a current spurt of vandalism would seem more in order. --Salix (talk): 17:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

The editor is fresh off a 6 month block with an edit war and a vandalism spree since unblocking. The edit war was on an article edited a year ago so there's indication it's the same individual. A 12 month schoolblock seems perfectly in order. Feel free to change it if you feel strongly. Toddst1 (talk) 17:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thankyou for deleting my article, Alastair Joseph Scott. I meant to not save it, then when it was there I couldn't delete it. It's about this guy I went to high school with by the way, no-one notable,--Please don't look at my real username. I hate it. (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

The findsources template will help me A LOT for all the articles I am about to afd. 16x9 (talk) 00:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a nice shortcut for what you would have done manually. Glad it helps. Toddst1 (talk) 00:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

What I have done manually, to many times. I really like the google news search not picking up pr. I learn a new trick every day. Thanks again. 16x9 (talk) 01:02, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Blocks on user:Eckstasy and user:Quotebucket

Heya, I've been informed of your blocks on these two accounts and my review of it makes me think this is not a case of strongly abusive sockpuppetry. I think a warning/talking to on the main account should suffice rather then an indef block on both. Thoughts? If you don't want to do it, would you mind if I did it? Thanks —— nixeagle 02:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm ok with that (actually appreciate the extra eyes). Glad to have you sort it out. I figured that user would be unblocked as did FisherQueen, per ]. Toddst1 (talk) 04:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do it now. In the future please don't use talk back and simply copy paste the reply to my talk page. I'll be copying this to mine now. :) —— nixeagle 22:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Jack Lenor Larsen

Thanks for the heads-up and the new sources, I only noticed that the webpage was affilated with him after I'd nearly finished writing the start/stub, but didn't want to toss it after all I'd done so thought I'd post and come back to it later and add in more non-affilated sources. That's a very useful tool, that Find Sources infobox doodah - love it! Mabalu (talk) 21:19, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Glad it was useful. At first Larsen looked almost non-notable but after adding that tag, the first article that came up was a NYT article about him. At some level, that should be required for any article going to AFD. Toddst1 (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh it was - I was bothered by that odd red link in the final listings of the Neiman Marcus Fashion Award pages (there's still one redlink there, but I've left that as there are two equally plausible candidates it could be and I've no clue which is the winner.) so decided to do a quick stub for the remaining red link. Like you I'd not heard of him before, but when I did a Google, I found dozens and dozens of links - just went for the first one that had a good bio on it, not realising at first that it was the webpage for his sculpture garden/house. Anyway, I've added refs from the NYT article so hopefully it's a little less AFD-like. Mabalu (talk) 23:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Albbbbeeeennnnoooo block evasion

Hi Toddst, a user you indef blocked for disruption is evading his block and making the same unconstructive edits via his IP. Cheers John Sloan (view / chat) 23:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Since I made this request, the user has been active again with his misinformation vandalism! John Sloan (view / chat) 15:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I really don't have context there. How about issuing a few warnings? Toddst1 (talk) 15:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I cant be bothered warning a user who has used multiple IP's and at least one user account to spread misinformation about football players and their clubs. He clearly has no desire to stop any time soon. If you're not interested, thats fine. I'll take this to another sysop. Sorry for taking up your time. Have a nice day! John Sloan (view / chat) 15:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for taking care of our fair Blappo. I just saw he was up to no good and filed the reports, then tried to stay clear. Since his unblock was declined, he made some pretty harsh edits on his page, it might be time to lock him down. I appreciate your help. Dayewalker (talk) 06:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Blappo

I would suggest lengthening the block to indefinite again. The user has made several more personal attacks on the talk page, along with telling you to kill yourself. I don't see a constructive contributor here.— Dædαlus 06:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Another disruptive user

Hi Toddst, I thought I may bring to your attention 217.37.194.117 (talk · contribs), he has made several disruptive and unsavoury edits to the pages Gary Croft and Joe Colbeck over the past few months. I have undone the vandalism, but this is not the first occasion I have had to take the unacceptable comments about these people off of the relevant pages. I am assuming the user knows both people and thinks its funny to have a pop at them in this manner. Thanks Footballgy (talk) 10:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

fyi - re a block you just made

I see you just reverted and blocked this IP on an article I'd edited; you reverted back to my edit.

Compare the ip's edit with two other recent ones on that page.

• and

Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I've added that user to an open RFCU to verify. Toddst1 (talk) 15:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll look for that next. I was just looking at the unblock notice and the apparent assertion that the ip is not whomever you meant. My edits there had nothing to do with the above edits, but I have recently encountered DF. We'll see. Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Help Request

Dear Toddst1, Could you please help me with the following page? http://en.wikipedia.org/Anthony_Tavera I am a little stripped of time and don't think I can finish it! I you think you can help, please let me know! Thanks in advance,Ken Durham (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I've done about all I can right now. See the links on the talk page - there aren't very many sources that we can use, but the one I inserted should be enough to show some notability. Toddst1 (talk) 17:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, It looks better small than not at all, you know what I mean. Anyhow, Thanks much.Ken Durham (talk) 17:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

ANI report

FYI. Abecedare (talk) 18:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I did the original block of B9 with autoblock disabled. That seems to have been a mistake! Often, people who are blocked for 3RR are basically good editors who just got carried away. This case updates my intuition on that. EdJohnston (talk) 18:55, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I, in fact, don't doubt that this editor thinks that his/her edits are improving the encyclopedia; even though multiple reviewers (including me) have pointed out that they appear as incomprehensible, garbled, jargon-y, surreal, unsourced or poorly sourced, new-ageist performance art (sorry, I find it impossible to describe succinctly; see this recent edit for an all too typical example).

Unfortunately wikipedia is very good at catching technical disruptions (like 3rr), but poor at diagnosing and rectifying behavioral and especially content problems. Establishing the latter generally requires dedicated effort by one-or-more editors (who in turn often face accusations of wiki-stalking, assuming bad faith etc, and advised to disengage) - and since no one (again, including me) has taken the time to start an RFC on User:B9_hummingbird_hovering, the user has continued unchecked to make over 10,000 edits in mainspace and (IMO) degraded >1000 articles.

Btw, in case you are wondering I have relatively little overlap with the articles the user edits - this "debate" has been the extent of my interactions over the past year, I think - and have been more of a silent observer than active disputant. Abecedare (talk) 19:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

User talk:208.39.161.114 (edit | user page | history | links | watch | logs)

When you made this trim to the history, it masked the fact that the last block was three months. Given that every edit since at least January has been vandalism, that might not be the optimum move. Your call.LeadSongDog come howl 18:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Anyone looking will see the block log as well as the talk page history. If you're suggesting I should have implemented a longer block, I might agree with you. Toddst1 (talk) 19:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)