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    Sock-puppet

    It has already been pointed out that Melanie Almeria is a sock-puppet of Floro. I noted earlier that Floro's user page was a vanity page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.121.100 (talk) 12:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

    Categories

    I added categories to this article, plus the required templates.--124.106.81.3 (talk) 12:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

    Revision, development for neutrality, BLP rules

    I had edited this BLP article by revising and adding reliable sources to develop this article to adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. --202.69.179.182 (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

    The style of these edits make me think that it is Floro himself who made these major revisions to this article about him. Not only has he been blocked from wikipedia for repeated violation of wp policy, but it is unlikely that his edits to his own article would be neutral. xschm (talk) 19:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

    I think that the overall tone of this article is somewhat negative, and it is because Floro's beliefs are nontraditional. Wearing a special outfit one day a week is held to be proof of his insanity, but he already had to wear a special outfit every day for his job, and there is no shortage of religions that require special outfits on special days, or even all the time, for a variety of odd reasons. For example, there are at least two major religions that believe men must grow beards or they will risk going to Hell. Not only that, but they expect you to know that they have these beliefs, and aren't just people who like beards, and will get upset if you offer them certain types of meats that they believe an ancient, powerful and invisible man told everybody not to eat. If Floro wants to consult a dwarf sometimes, and a Bible at other times, in my opinion, it makes him more balanced than a judge who just consults one or the other.Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 15:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

    Done. Please review and check the amendments plus sources, and edit if you wish. --58.69.139.52 (talk) 08:40, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
    Looks good. Wouldn't touch a thing.Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 15:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
    I think those edits were added by Floro himself. He has been blocked from editing wikipedia for repeated policy violation, and has continued to subvert that block via sockpuppets and anonymous edits. Lines like this one "After suffering 68 months of indefinite preventive suspension, from July 20, 1999, the Supreme Court of the Philippines on April 7, 2006, separated Judge Floro from judicial service with payment of three years' back wages and a fine of 40,000 pesos." are both grammatically incorrect (in this formulation the supposed suffering seems to attach to the Supreme Court) and non-neutral. Words like "suffering" have no place here. When you say you "wouldn't touch a thing", it makes me wonder if you've really looked. There are more examples, I just picked one. xschm (talk) 17:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
    p.s. the edits added by the anonymous user are strikingly similar to the ones added in February by another anonymous user. This latest one made the article more than 6 times as long as it used to be. It will take a long time to sort through it to determine what is worth keeping. xschm (talk) 17:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
    What about the section: Unexplained series of car accidents, illnesses, surgeries and deaths of Philippines jurists and lawyers. This is pure speculation and WP:OR and in no way connected to the subject of the article. Except if we accept that the dwarves did it. They are mentioned at the end of the section for good measure. If we do accept this we might as well accept that the Supreme Court of the Philippines suffered 68 months of indefinite preventive suspension, which presumably, through the intervention of the dwarves, they gave to themselves. Dr.K. logos 18:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

    Same person

    Is this the same person "Florentino Floro" who was a judge and has a wikipedia account name " Florentino floro"? Just a question. Any thought? User:fred garcia —Preceding undated comment added 07:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC).

    Yes, and he's now blocked, mostly because of terrible contributions, but in part for the same reasons he was disbarred--he's been threatening use his dwarves to cast curses on Filipino Wikipedians for a while now. --116.50.176.36 (talk) 05:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
    We really can't tell if Florentino Floro has authorized anybody to contribute to Misplaced Pages or Wikinews and other forums. I know him, since he was my classmate in the Ateneo in 1973; and I met him last year. I notice that he does not know PC since he pays a server to type his court pleadings. At any rate, as blogger and e-forum member, I had seen Floro's alleged posts: and blocking in Wikinews. Why do people especially us, skeptics, bother to fear about Floro's curses. Assuming that he hits the lotto of death with his antics and predictions, so what? Will we need to fear him? Blocking him makes no sense either, since spirituality is a different realm from ours. Ano tantya nyo?--58.69.139.52 (talk) 08:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

    Wow, what a page

    The page is splintered inappropriately into way too many sections with titles that are way too long. I'm working through it. Another problem I've seen so far is citations that don't support the text they are attached to. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 19:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

    Why am I not surprised? Dr.K. logos 23:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

    Predictions

    Are the predictions of the future made by Floro worth mentioning? WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 23:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

    If they are supported by WP:RS then, maybe, they are notable and relevant. But the section: "Aftermath and unusual circumstances" and all subsections have to be deleted. They are pure WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. Dr.K. logos 23:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
    Great cleanup job so far. The article looks much more encyclopaedic now. Thanks for removing the huge OR section. Dr.K. logos 05:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
    I removed the "Aftermath" section. I would add here as part of the justification that Floro wrote and added those sections himself. It would appear that he is trying to provide support for the claim that he is a psychic with the power to curse those who cross him. I don't think this article (or wikipedia in general) is an appropriate soapbox for those claims. xschm (talk) 05:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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