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JWs Talk page and vandalism

Stevenwmccrary58, can you explain why you keep vandalising whole pages of user's comments, not from a main article page, but in this Talk discussion? You know the policy on Vandalism, and yet you are doing to worst kind of vandalism of all, by hacking to death people's discussion comments, changing their words, re-orderings their statements and distorting their presentation and argumentation, and all of this in a Talk discussion, not a main article! If you alter even one word, let alone massive paragraphs as you have been doing you are bastardising their thoughts, and manipulating the debate in a totally unethical and unacceptable manner. This kind of vandalising is totally unacceptable, especially when people are trying to resolve and edit a complex subject with all their information, presented the way they choose.

Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages%3AMediation_Cabal%2FCases%2F27_12_2005_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses&diff=34625746&oldid=34608460

Would it be acceptable to rip out pages of books, and replace them with others just because we did not like what was written in them? Is it ethical to alter history to something else and present this as a factual representation? If you have a problem with someone's phrasing, or words, then make a comment below their post objectively, but please stop vandalising post and changing all their words. Once you have touched their Talk comments and messed about with them, altered them, moved bits and deleted others, mutilated it, it is no longer a valid post, and does not represent in any way what they said and the way they wanted their ideas and disputation expressed. You have marched in with strong-arm tactics and done a massive amount of corrupting of people's paragraphs, mine being the most messed up and altered of all. Again, if you object to any wording, then please post an objection below the text. Please stop this outrageous bastardising and hacking up of people's valid talk posts. This is not a main page, this is a discussion page about an edit, which will have each person's point of view, and their wording expressing their arguments and thoughts in their own manner. You are unfortunately destroying the whole point of a resolution page discussion with your actions. If you carry on with this spoiling, the whole point of the discussion will be void, as all the points will be lost in a deluge of censorship and bastardisation, therefore any conclusion will be unreasonable, manipulated and invalid. Central 17:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Cobaltbluetony and Central, I am trying to follow some of the suggestions on Misplaced Pages:Civility especially those under the subsection on Rephrasing disputants comments. My intent is to keep the tone civil and on topic on the Mediation page. The notes that remain in the Mediation text points the users to deleted text, so if they still want to read it, they can go to the history.

I do not favor, nor does the Mediation Cabal, admonitions, so I try to avoid those.

I am taking a little liberty here, since it is mediation, albeit informal. Your protest is so noted.

I do not have the authority, not do I want the authority, to "zap" history. It is all still there.

Thanks,

SteveMc 18:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Reply from Cobaltbluetony

Steven, I accept the terms under which you are making these changes, but I would offer the caveat that, in the past, there is no such thing as a "little" liberty, or a "little" anything here. Large or small, certain editors will invariably (and predictably) raise a fuss until everyone else feels physically nasueated. - CobaltBlueTony 18:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)