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In case you were wondering, the bot didn't update because it couldn't find <!--HooksEnd--> in the queue. It did post this to the errors page as expected instead of updating. In that type of situation, the bot will update once the issue is fixed (the bot will check every 10 minutes to see if the issue is fixed, so if the issue is fixed after the scheduled update time, wait a few minutes). Shubinator (talk) 04:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. This will help in the future. My intuition told me it was something like that, but I simply didn't have time and energy to troubleshoot the problem (that set was prepared not by me). Materialscientist (talk) 06:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a good idea to check /Errors if something goes wrong. The toolserver account just got approved, so I'll be moving the bot over there in a day or two. Shubinator (talk) 05:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the DYK work

Thanks for your work on my not so perfect gramar and wording. I hope the articles I hand in for DYK are a little intersting. --Stone (talk) 10:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK needs balanced contributions on various topic and your articles are very welcome. Few people submit DYK noms in your areas. Materialscientist (talk) 10:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I like the history of science, the old institutes and the old chemists. I avoide the BLPs where I can. A good biography can only be written when the person is dead. (sorry for all American Idol participats or similar important people which had their biographies published at the age of 20)--Stone (talk) 10:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I share that, but feel that it is important to find connection between the past and present, otherwise few people would be interested in reading about scientists of the past. Materialscientist (talk) 10:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

You are right. For example the story of the people storing several gram of radium for the determination of the molecular weight in desiccator on china evaporation dishes, and they publish a warning that the china decomposes and the glass of the desiccator changes colour whithin a few days. Makes only a good story when you know what savety rules force on you if you use a weak radioactive source today. --Stone (talk) 11:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Block on 128.103.90.178

Thanks for taking action on this. It is, however, a little more complicated. The three IP addresses below are all at Harvard. It doesn't take much to guess they're the same person, as all the edits below -- except Bert Dorr -- mention subs/hoagies/cheeseburgers. I suspect that the James G. Woodward (no relation) edit was in retribution for my posting a vandal 1 to that account.

140.247.6.20

• 18:58, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Submarine sandwich ‎ (→Other variations) (top)

(Arguably, this is an OK edit -- I haven't reverted it.)

128.103.90.55

1. 18:36, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) First Taranaki War ‎
2. 18:34, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Submarine sandwich ‎ (→Other variations)
3. 18:34, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Submarine sandwich ‎ (→Other variations)
4. 18:32, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) East Hartford, Connecticut ‎ (→Notable Residents)
5. 18:30, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Canton, Massachusetts ‎ (→Geography)
6. 18:28, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Canton, Massachusetts ‎ (Undid revision 350485545 by Jameslwoodward (talk))
7. 20:21, 15 March 2010 (hist | diff) Canton, Massachusetts ‎ (→Sister cities)
8. 20:19, 15 March 2010 (hist | diff) Canton, Massachusetts ‎ (→Commerce)

128.103.90.178

• 19:19, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Bert Dorr ‎
• 18:48, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) James G. Woodward ‎
• 18:46, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Cheeseburger ‎ (→Variations)
• 18:42, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Vending machine ‎ (→Netherlands)
• 18:08, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Canton, Massachusetts ‎ (→Demographics)
• 18:05, 17 March 2010 (hist | diff) Canton, Massachusetts ‎ (→Commerce)

. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 14:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi

There seems to be an error here your block template isn't showing up. --Frank Fontaine (talk) 23:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I see it well, both in block log and talk page. Any hint? Maybe try reloading the page. Materialscientist (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I had this feeling it was my fault...Well, reloaded several times and nothing. Bah. It's only not showing up on the page though! --Frank Fontaine (talk) 00:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

This might be due to some temporal caching delay at wikipedia servers (it happens when there are problems there). Sometimes, if you clicked "edit", you could see the recently edit (code) message, which is not yet visible in the output. Materialscientist (talk) 01:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

WF98

Since you've blocked many socks of his, and you do so quite quickly, would you be at all opposed to me adding your username to the LTA page?— Dædαlus 00:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe not now - I don't feel like I know that matter well, just happen to react to his appearance at AIV (some day hours there are poorly covered). Materialscientist (talk) 01:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright.— Dædαlus 04:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

re: revert on my talk page

Thanᚷ NevilleDNZ (talk) 07:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

And thanks for reverting on my user page. I was fast asleep. =) Millahnna (mouse)talk 15:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Nature Photonics

I did a page move by mistake - (an error in judgement). I tried to revert the move, but it has the same title that I did the move under. I was trying to change "Nature Photonics" to "nature photonics" (all small letters). It is the way that the title is published. Anyway, the move produced "Nature photonics" - no help. First, that is not what I intended. Second, all the other Nature journal articles begin with capitals in both words, so this article is no longer consistent with these.

For example: Nature · Nature Biotechnology · Nature Cell Biology · Nature Chemical Biology · Nature Genetics Nature Nanotechnology · Nature Photonics · Nature Physics · Nature Chemistry etc., etc (You should see them all. There is template on the bottom of this article.)

Is there anyway to fix this? Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 23:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

A quick answer - it is easy to fix, but I've got to run. Will get back to that in about 6 hours. Materialscientist (talk) 23:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved back. I don't think it is possible to have an article title decapitalized - the wikimedia software treats the same, e.g. Zinc and zinc. Materialscientist (talk) 07:20, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Need Your Love So Bad

I have recently nominated this article to DYK. However in my haste to post this, I inadvertently omitted my co-author Ghmyrtle. I am not too sure how to insert this, so as to ensure he gets co-author accreditation. Could you please effect, or at least advise me, in very very simple terms how to do so. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 01:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for a rude question, but the visible contribution from Ghmyrtle to that article is meager. Why credit? Materialscientist (talk) 07:12, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

A fair point on face value, but he gave me assistance and potential references to explore etc., before I submitted the article. See my talk page for details.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

It really doesn't concern me either way! Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:Infobox osmium

What was the exhange criteria for my first FP Osmium image? I included the new better Os crystal-cluster image in the article. Now it is changed. The new image in the tamplate infobox and my in the article. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

First, thank you for providing nice images for wikipedia and for correcting the duplicate image problem in the article osmium - I missed that. My personal opinion is that the current image of osmium in the infobox is the best. You can bring this for community discussion - no hard feeling. Materialscientist (talk) 10:54, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages discussions ... no to much and to hard work ;-) Now is the article also OK for me. I'll make a new and more better then the current tamplate image :-) --Alchemist-hp (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Researcher88 and Joseph Lerner

You may want to comment here Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Inappropriate Deletion by Wikipidia User.4meter4 (talk) 23:56, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for resolving this issue. I would also appriciate it if you could leave a note about BLP policy and sourcing at his talk page. It would be good if it came from someone other than me. All the best.4meter4 (talk) 00:14, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Periodic table (wide)

Why should Lu be under Y? Shouldn't it be La? 116.14.21.167 (talk) 03:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

This layout is used rarely and thus there is no well-established guideline, but. It seems like wikipedia editors have agreed (see article talk) to place Sc and Y next to Ti and Zr for a good reason - they are all transition metals and therefore have the same color; it is illogical to separate them. Materialscientist (talk) 04:34, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: blocking the creator of My Fake Husband

Hello, I would like to try and intercede for unblocking User:Newstoryteller. Here is the AFD nomination page diff of what I wrote concerning the warning this user received from another user who jumped the gun. There was absolutely no good faith assumed by Woogee. As per the diff, I was in the process of writing a good faith message to the user along the lines of ceasing the removal of tags and edits so I could do a copyedit and maintenance to the article talkpage. Please review the article and its talkpage to see my sincere effort. I am not related to the new user - I am a Page Patroller and caught the Tag removal. Thanks in advance. --Morenooso (talk) 07:00, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I guess the answer is no. Sorry to have troubled you. --Morenooso (talk) 10:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Question on DYK Awards

Can non-admins (aka me) give DYK award notices on people's talk pages? I wanted to give one to Arcadian for creating Javier Arias Stella, since he hasn't received one for it yet.

On the same subject, I was wondering if I am also supposed to get one for having expanded it to qualify it for the DYK when it was going to be thrown out or does the person who nominated it just get one? I wasn't sure on that point.

So, yes, I am asking a selfless, then selfish question. ^_^; Silverseren 09:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of it. :3 Though I would still like to know if giving DYK award notices is allowed for non-admins? Silverseren 09:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

What happened today was: DYKbot crashed and the manual DYK update was completed by two editors; in the mixup I forgot to issue credits to the authors and completed that only now - thanks a lot for reminding! As to your question, any editor can issue credits which were previously prepared and approved by a DYK administrator, but additional credits need to be cleared. Thus either contact one of the "DYK promoting admins" (me, Ucucha, Calmer Waters, etc.) or post a message at WT:DYK. Materialscientist (talk) 10:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Researcher88 (talk · contribs)

He's made a legal threat so I've blocked him indefinitely, telling him that if he retracts it and your block hasn't expired, he'll still have to sit it out. I hope that was appropriate! Dougweller (talk) 13:58, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

More than appropriate. I missed that edit. Materialscientist (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for kindly crediting User:Victorianaesthete for the John Evan Thomas DYK. Much appreciated - and much deserved by that user. Also - sorry about supporting the cat joke (Template talk:Did you know#James Cumming). But seriously, without the hook it's a decent serious article about a notable historical scientist. Do you think we can replace the controversial hook with a nice safe one? The article is harmless in itself and deserves the front page slot while there's time. Also (apart from the hook) the editor concerned has worked hard on the article and I don't want to discourage him/her. Just a thought. I'm not trying to get into a controversy here - quite the opposite. I'm hoping we can all work together to resolve this in a friendly way. You and other admins have been very kind and helpful to me recently, and I guess this is my clumsy way of trying to make a positive contribution in return. --Storye book (talk) 18:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I'm just trying to push the DYK contributors toward positive rather than negative nominations (by getting tougher to the latter) - there so many choices for writing, but at some time a significant fraction of DYK noms was all about crime and such. Materialscientist (talk) 22:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the ALT1 which I approved on the suggestions page. I'm wondering whether some of the "negative" nominations, as you call them, have been influenced by that Wiki page about nominations (forget where I saw it) which said that a study of the most successful noms had been done, and the military, sex and really odd/weird things were the top three categories. I guess the hook that we've been discussing would come under the odd/weird category. That research has borne out in my experience, since my article Westgate, Canterbury got 9.6k views on its DYK, possibly due to its military subject. I must admit that the research and the 9.6k views for Westgate have influenced a few of my hooks towards the military since then (doesn't always work!) But the point is: if that research is having a bad effect on the hooks, then perhaps we should remove it from the Wiki page where I saw it? Or perhaps we should put a note next to the bit about the research, saying that inappropriate hooks are unacceptable? If we do that, I guess we should make it clear exactly what is inappropriate, so that we can all agree on guidelines (I'm out of my depth here, and would probably not join in that discussion). I think it was on that page where they list the people with 50 DYKs or whatever.--Storye book (talk) 12:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. I'm sure I can trust you and other admins to tell me at once if I get too confident - there's still a lot that I don't know.--Storye book (talk) 12:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Copper and new articles on the subject

Hi Materialscientist, There is an (almost brand new) editor called User:Enviromet who I have met at two WP meet ups, and talked to on the phone as well. He is very knowledgeable about copper, especially the new research on its anti-microbial effects. He has been drafting several articles for Misplaced Pages, I think in Word rather than in his subpages. He was asking me today if he should start putting his new articles up, and would he get feedback if he did. I told him he could put a note on the talk page of WikiProject Elements, but that would not necessarily guarantee that he would get feedback. I also told him he could perhaps put one or more of his articles into subpages of his user page, and that he could maybe ask you to give him some input into what he is doing and what he wants to do. I also told him that if he didn't mind, I could approach you first since I have "talked" to you a little bit, because of your DYK work. I pointed out that he could also just go ahead and BE BOLD and start putting his articles up into article space, but because he is so very new, he might benefit from some feedback early on in the process. I hope you don't mind, I recommended he contact you soon, so you may be hearing from him before long. By the way, the draft on his subpage 2 is intended to become a subsection of the main copper article. All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. IMO, the best option would be for them to put their first articles into personal userspace and then ask for comments. I would be willing to look at them and brush them up (articles and their authors get bashed sometimes if the "formatting" is too bad), but I shall ask project help if I don't really know that subject. Materialscientist (talk) 23:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppet of blocked user 92.234.253.30

Earlier today you gave a 1-week block on 92.234.253.30 (talk · contribs) for continued spamming on articles Blackpool and Ellan Vannin. Now a new user Blackdam29 (talk · contribs) has added exactly the same links again to those articles (with almost identical wording) (this edit and this). Looks like a sockpuppet to me. -- Dr Greg  talk  00:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

France win(s)

I notice you changed "France win" to "France wins" on the Main Page. This is a common mistake. "France win" is acceptable -- and correct -- in British English, as far as I know, because "France", as a team, is a plural entity. Since it is not acceptable to switch between British and American English unless given a compelling reason, you should change "wins" back to "win". -- tariqabjotu 07:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Changed back. Both might be acceptable, but I won't argue. Materialscientist (talk) 07:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Chljon95

I don't suppose I could get you to review your block of this user?. It seems User:Pingveno may have been a bit overzealous with his warnings and subsequent report. All Chljon95 was doing was trying to add a picture of the footballer to the page but wasn't doing it properly. Certainly not vandalism. Jevansen (talk) 09:01, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I blocked that user not because of the image, but because of their speculation that a person died in 1996 (well, I couldn't find evidence of that, but he might not be notable enough). I have unblocked them to have a try. Materialscientist (talk) 09:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Organic semiconductors

See the discussion on nobel prize. Secondary sources are the easy part. Are you claiming that the Smithssonian institution imprimatur is not of sufficient authority ? Also see particularly Historical Background (or there is nothing new under the Sun), Inzelt,G. "Conducting Polymers", (2008),chapter 8,p265-269. Note the title, which is a specifc reference to the fact that others had done essentially the same thing years before Heeger et al. BTW. you seem to have reverted instantly without the courtesy of giving me a few minutes to explain my reversion on the discussion page.Nucleophilic (talk) 22:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

As I replied at the talk page, it has nothing to do with the novelty, but with the achievement. You reverted my edit without adding reliable sources demonstrating that. Materialscientist (talk) 22:45, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

As I note, the science Nobel prizes are not about "achievement", but about "discovery" or "improvement". Note the wording of the 2000 chemistry citation-- the prize was for the " discovery ". This is because Nobel used this word in his will, which the Foundation is legally-bound to follow, at least pro forma. It is also true that the science prizes are often really given for "achievement". Consequently, many people think this is what they are for. But the citations always say "discovery" (of such and such). Normally, this would not matter, except when the Nobel Committee gets the history of discovery wrong while attempting to reward "achievement". Then TSHTF.

Later similar prizes didn't make Nobel's mistake and do award for "achievement". Unlike "discovery" ( falsifiable by "prior art" ) this is purely subjective and generally non-falsifiable. As for secondary sources, see my quote from Inzelt below. If a newspaper article is a good secondary wikisource, then surely a Springer-Verlag Monograph from a major researcher is also. Nucleophilic (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Barium fluoride

Hello, thanks for fixing my mistake. It's been nearly a decade since I've taken any chemistry, but it is embarrassingly obvious that Barium would always be II now that I think about it. Beach drifter (talk) 03:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Also nice work on adding that ref, I was just checking on some since it looks pretty odd without a good one! Beach drifter (talk) 03:52, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

97.120.240.71 and 97.120.246.46

Thanks for blocking these two. I would respectfully request that WP:BLPN be temporarily semi-protected. This seems to be a big target for these socks of this blocked user. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 06:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Never been there and thus don't know the consequences of its semi-protection. Better ask a regular (admin). Materialscientist (talk) 06:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Okie Dokie...I will open an ANI thread about the situation. I will link you to it once I get it made in case you want to comment. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • 06:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Please find the ANI thread here. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 06:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Angola attack

Thank you for formatting the refs, I thought it was a bot's job. Cheers,--DAI (Δ) 17:08, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Researcher88 is back?

I think he may be back as IP 99.225.248.4. See which only edits the same articles as Researcher88.4meter4 (talk) 19:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Taklung and Riwoche Monasteries

Thank you so much for notifying me that Taklung Monastery and Riwoche Monastery have been chosen for the DYK section on the main page. I feel sure you have been busy in the background here. Thanks so much. I am really thrilled! John Hill (talk) 00:26, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

User:59.92.120.74

The IP you just blocked as the block evading Kagome1977 has changed IPs and stated that they will continue socking. (also noted at ANI in the curent discussion about the whole thing). -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:12, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Check Talk - main page, section 2.6. I don't know the correct procedure for reporting.Denisarona (talk) 14:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Please undelete image

Hi, Materialscientist. You kindly offered help a few days ago, and here I am already asking for help. One of my images File:A BorisA Berlin1948.jpg was (quite rightly) deleted some time ago by Quadell, because it was uploaded under the wrong licence. I now have the right licence and fair use rationale for it - Non-free historic image - because I've learned a bit more about licensing since then, and because the image sheds quite a bit of historical light on at least one article. So please undelete? Thanks.--Storye book (talk) 17:18, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Undeleted. Please update the license. Materialscientist (talk) 22:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for undeleting - much appreciated.--Storye book (talk) 10:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Unfair

To do this because of the position of heavily involved admin, who hated the article from the very beginning. . It is not about consensus, it is about proving that there's something wrong with the articles, and help to correct it, if there is. --Mbz1 (talk) 17:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

2000 Nobel Chemistry prize

The following monograph is available online at . About as good as it gets wikiwise: A senior researcher complaining specifically about the 2000 Chemistry Nobel's mis-allocation of discovery credit in a Springer-Verlag monograph.

Conducting Polymers, A New Era in Electrochemistry 10.1007/978-3-540-75930-0_8 György Inzelt

8. Historical Background (Or: There Is Nothing New Under the Sun) Abstract "The Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 2000, was awarded to Heeger, MacDiarmid and Shirakawa "for the discovery and development of electrically conductive polymers." However, there were several forerunners to these distinguished chemists. The most important representatives of the family of electrically conductive polymers, polyaniline and polypyrrole, were already being prepared by chemical or electrochemical oxidation in the nineteenth century. In fact, the discovery of polyacetylene in the 1970s—which had no practical importance but helped to arouse the interest of researchers and the public alike—was another episode in the history of conducting polymers. The story of polyaniline is described here in detail."

This chapter describes examples of highly-conductive polyanilines well before Heeger et al's rediscovery of high conduction in an oxidized, iodine-doped, polyacetylene. Note this is with specific reference to the miss-assignment of discovery credit to Heeger et al in the 2000 Nobel Prize. Thus, Dr Inzelt's chapter title .. ..There is nothing new under the Sun... Again, because the Nobel citation can be so easily falsified simply by showing the prior papers, the 2000 Chemistry Prize is arguably the cleanest example of such missignment. That is, there are not the usual subjective complications such as who did what and how important was it? Which is why it is a good example to incorporate into the article. Nobody can really argue that the Noble citation is correct or argue that we ought to defer to the opinion of the Nobel committee, who almost certainly had no knowledge of this "prior art". Nucleophilic (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Rude words on Main Page

Template talk:Did you know#Neuromance: somebody wants to put a rude word in a DYK hook on the front page. It doesn't bother me, but I don't want to cause hassle. What are the rules about this (if any?)--Storye book (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

They are allowed when functional and necessary (some biology phrases don't work when censored), but are discouraged when there is an acceptable alternative. Disputable topic. Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll leave that part of the review to a second opinion, then.--Storye book (talk) 12:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

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Reply - Your AIV reports

Well I used the 'vandalism only account' option because the initial edits of most of the user were blatant vandalism. Which one are you talking about specifically? -Regancy42 (talk) 00:29, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

The way I see it, if someone is here to disrupt/vandalize, then the use of warnings has little purpose apart from the standard procedural requirements (warn level 1-4, then block). I understand the whole 'assume good faith' concept, but I think that it is better to take a pro-active approach. Take the Myleeajane example, the first 11 edits is more than sufficient for a block (in my opinion), however, by not taking action you've let the user vandalize another 3 articles. That just increases the workload for rc patrollers. -Regancy42 (talk) 00:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I understand that there is room for human error, but most of the cases are blatant vandalism. I wouldn't report to AIV if there is some discrepancy as to whether it was an honest mistake or intentional disruption. For example, you don't "accidentally" add repeating characters, replace content or create hoax articles -Regancy42 (talk) 02:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK Award for Norrie May-Welby

You said to inform you if this ever needed to come up, as auxillary DYK awards. Should I be getting one from this article because I expanded it considerably (saving it in the process for DYK)? Silverseren 08:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Good Neighborhood and Understanding Award

Hi! I put this article to DYK-vote, it was created on 18 March, but was an argument about deletion, so I could put it there only today. What do you think about the nomination there? --Eino81 (talk) 11:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

The article contains only 797 characters of prose whereas the minimum is 1500. Materialscientist (talk) 11:48, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Aha, I see... --Eino81 (talk) 11:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Is it enough long now? :) --Eino81 (talk) 12:13, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

918 chars. Bulleted text, tables, figures and alike items don't count. Materialscientist (talk) 12:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Block of User talk:120.17.136.17

This IP has resorted to personal attacks on his talk page after being blocked. Can you re-block without talk-page editing privileges? Thanks. --Connormah (talk | contribs) 13:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Page delete

Hello Materialscientist. Is it possible to delete this redirect page Ebla tablets so I can move the draft I've been working on in my userspace there (User:Zozo2kx/Ebla_tablets)? Yazan (talk) 15:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved. Materialscientist (talk) 23:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! If I want to nominate to DYK, should I use the date it was created on userspace, or the date it was moved? Yazan (talk) 00:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Move date. Please do add a comment that it was moved from userspace - many reviewers miss that and disqualify the nom right away. Materialscientist (talk) 00:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Yazan (talk) 01:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Bramhope vandal

I have not been involved in an edit war before, and I'm afraid of the "three strikes" scenario; this is why I have come to you for advice. IP 80.2.68.243 made a silly change to a geo location template on the Bramhope page yesterday, and I reverted it. The user has today deleted the same template. If I undo this vandalism, I'll be getting into an edit war. What do I do next?--Storye book (talk) 15:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

In such cases, I provide detailed edit summaries and try to talk to the editor. Then (i) I either get convinced I was wrong or we develop a compromise (ii) the editor responds but I'm not convinced - then I seek advice of other editors (e.g. at a corresponding project or the article talk - though some talks are rarely visited) (iii) the editor goes on with blank edit summaries and without replying - report to WP:ANEW or WP:AIV (if their changes are vandalism). Materialscientist (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I'll copy this conversation to my talk page for future ref. I've also informed user:Keith D about it, as he watches and protects a lot of the Yorkshire geography pages. He suggested that I put a message on the nuisance IP's talk page, since others had left messages there already. So we'll see what happens.--Storye book (talk) 23:58, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

My DYK noms

For your information and entertainment, I've just contributed a run of seven DYK noms here. I think I've got the knack of how this particular type of nom works, now. I might do some more - but if you think I'm off-centre, I'll stop. Fun, though.--Storye book (talk) 20:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

68.46.212.255‎, etc.

Maybe a short-term range block would be more effective, until that bozo gets tired of his little game. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Who are the others and where are they vandalizing? 68.46.213.146 alone would make a large range. Materialscientist (talk) 00:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Looking back at the talk for Wknight94, it's too broad a range. Wknight94 is perfectly capable of protecting his own page, but that's just what the IP-hopper wants, so I'm guessing Wknight94 will just wait for the IP-hopper to lose interest. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

However, I do think it's about time to take away 68.46.212.255's ability to edit its talk page. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Tambouras

Re. Template_talk:Did_you_know#Tambouras - I added a bit so that the size checks out now. Thanks for alerting me to the problem. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  03:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Question; Help

Hello, my report - Rokarudi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) concise reason example, example2, example3 , example4, example5. Rokarudi has violated the WP:PLACE, Foreign language names and first sentence usage. iadrian (talk) 22:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC) Not for this board. Materialscientist (talk) 23:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC) for Vandalism. I am sorry, but who should i address for this matter? I thought that it is clear vandalism. Thank you.iadrian (talk) 23:10, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:AIV is indented for blatant cases of vandalism and spam which require immediate block. It is fast, but should not be misused for editing conflicts such as this one. There are 3 common steps in such cases: (i) talking to the user, trying to understand their point and find a compromise - many edits have a good goal but clumsy formatting (ii) discuss at a corresponding wikipedia project - editors there know better the topic in question than the general WP audience (iii) WP:ANI can bring an administrative resolution. Note thought that most editors there would judge the matter from administrative side and if the root is in POV disagreement, the report will likely stall. Materialscientist (talk) 23:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I understand. Thank you. iadrian (talk) 09:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

New user

I'm kind of regretting playing a part in the bock of RIS cody (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I don't think they were purposefully malicious, but just lacked a bit of competence. I'd like to offer help on their talk as long I wouldn't be interfering with any process. Your feedback would be appreciated. Thanks Tiderolls 23:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I do appreciate your work and attention. Edits of RIS cody appeared to me as a worrying case of trolling, that is why the block. Materialscientist (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Definitely concerning, I agree. Please don't misunderstand; I support the block. I also think my (and the other editors') warnings were correct. I suppose it's best to let the process run. Thanks for your quick reply. Tiderolls 00:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

April Fools DYK

Hi, i was wondering if you would be interested in building the queues for April Fools DYK. Last year the queues were created on March 28th. I have never built queues before so that is why i am asking you to. I left RoyalBroil a message yesterday asking him the same thing, but he has not replied.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

My daily DYK "policy" is if someone builds the preps - fine, I'll check them. If not - I'll do myself. Same in this case (I don't have experience with April 1 though). Materialscientist (talk) 22:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i guess i will just try my hand at building them then... please check them to make sure they work...--Found5dollar (talk) 02:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

=Lloyd house

Hi you might want to quickly change the link to Lloyd House (Alexandria, Virginia) not Lloyd House. It shoulf be hidden using popups. Dr. Blofeld 16:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Islamuslim

I remember this editor - can't something be done here? He's a drive-by serial tagger and deletes reliable sources he feels are "bias". This is nonsense... Doc9871 (talk) 22:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Never mind ;>Doc9871 (talk) 22:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Autoreviewer Privileges

Hi Materialscientist! I am trying to figure out which Admin granted a particular new editor autoreviewer status. I cannot remember how to generate the report that states who gave a particular editor what privileges. The reason I am interested is that I wanted to approach that Admin to consider revoking the privilege from this particular editor as many of the new pages that s/he creates borrow heavily from copyrighted sources and should not be exempt from patrol by new page patrollers. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 04:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

P.S. For convenience, please reply here. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 04:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

The tab to click is user right management (don't know if it is available to non-admins). The admin to contact in this case is user:PeterSymonds. Materialscientist (talk) 05:01, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done  With this edit here. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 05:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) For the record, non-admins can't view Special:UserRights. Instead, the way to check is by using Special:Log --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 05:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I forgot to mention that the other link did not work for ’lil ’ol moi, as I am way too low down on the totem pole. But, the link you provided, Shirik, works just fine. Now, if I could only remember it next time I want to look up such a thing … — SpikeToronto 05:30, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Please help cleanup botched edits by anon editor

Hi, recently an anon editor (98.67.173.16) made good-faith extensive changes to Lawrencium, adding unnecessarily verbose section headings, expanding acronyms (sometimes he has a point, but often it's redundant), and in general making the text unnecessarily wordy. Another editor on the same network (possibly the same person on a different dynamic IP) also recently made the same kind of changes to Xenon tetrafluoride, which I have cleaned up just yesterday. Most of the edits stem from good intentions (making technical articles more accessible), but the way it's done is rather disruptive. I don't really have the time/patience to go through the changes to Lawrencium, though; could you help? And perhaps track down the person(s) making these edits and helping them understand WP:MOS? I'm not sure if it's a single person, or perhaps a misguided school class project trying to contribute to Misplaced Pages in a constructive way but without adequate supervision. Thanks!—Tetracube (talk) 19:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I admit being non-specialist in unstable elements and thus only brushed up some immediate prose and formatting items there. The IP edits were good-faith attempt to make the prose more readable - hardly a student project; yes, with some non-compliance with MoS, but we can clean that up (and mostly did). The article certainly needs a dedicated editor to expand it. Materialscientist (talk) 05:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Methylenedioxypyrovalerone

The Methylenedioxypyrovalerone article is seems to be vandalised continuously by IP 78.109.180.5 (and most recently 90.194.197.163). Can the page be protected from IP editing or these IPs blocked immediately? Or should I just keep warning them until their 4th warning as usual? Thanks Grim★ 06:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt action. Grim★ 06:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

April Fools DYK Noms

Hey, you deleted the noms that went into the first queue. Last year they were all preserved instead of being deleted. Just wondering why you deleted them.--Found5dollar (talk) 13:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't know about last year. Deleted to avoid double promotion - I didn't just take Q1, but removed one nom per discussion and replaced with an unapproved one. Materialscientist (talk) 22:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

FourYourLove.

Hey, M.S., I got this email from her, but don't know how to reply. Maybe you could be of more help. Feel free to reply to her on her talk page.

Here's the email: Hi. I got a final warning from you.........I am brand new to this site,and am not sure how to use it correctly..... there is an article about my husband on this site, I see I cannot make big cahnges, but I only changed ONE word!! My husbands does NOT sale term papers, his websites are actually Free and that is why I changed the word.........and it looks like the whole post was started by the person who is suing us. I looked up the ip address.....sigh........please allow my one word change, I get that I cannot write nice things about my husband, but it was only one word.....and it was the 100% truth....Rusty Carroll nor r2c2 inc sale term papers.

this lawsuit has ruined our life........please allow the one word change.....it makes me feel better in a no win situation.

- Zhang He (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

RFPP

I have a question: Why there's sometimes when administrators aren't protecting/unprotecting articles. Thanks Tbhotch 06:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

There are general guidelines, there could be specific details in every individual case, and admins have their own views on those. If you provided an example, I could answer better. Materialscientist (talk) 06:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Example is today (excepting User:Zhang He last additions) are a lot of request ignored. Tbhotch 06:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Are you online?

I have a problem concerning a 3RR I was given. If you would review my Contributions tonight, I'd appreciate it. I think you've seen my edits, reverts and Speedy Delete nominations. If you feel the 3RR is justified, please block me for 10 hours and pull my Rollback rights. --Morenooso (talk) 06:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. --Morenooso (talk) 06:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I just checked the contributions of the user who 3RR'ed me. He reported me to the Administrator's Board. --Morenooso (talk) 06:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Not an April 1st joke..... seems every year jokers start changing Wales' birthday, which has been listed as Aug 7th for over a year, and user Morenooso seems to have gotten caught up in an edit war with another user thinking she reverting vandalism when she's actually just messing the page up (i.e. the article and the info box now show two different dates of birth for Mr. Wales).Jhurlburt (talk) 07:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

You need to read his article and the citation to his note. It goes to the cited article where he states his preference. --Morenooso (talk) 07:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Ummmmm...... User Morenooso just vandalized Wales' page . You might want to fix that. Jhurlburt (talk) 07:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I am a vandal. April Fools. --Morenooso (talk) 07:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm also running with scissors. Thank God, I have a laptop which is fully charged. Kind of hard to type and snap the scissors blades. Hey, somebody just reverted me on Jimbo Wales? --Morenooso (talk) 07:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible to fully protect the Jimmy Wales article until all the April 1st foolishness is done with? Semi-protect does not seem to be doing the job right about now. Jhurlburt (talk) 07:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for semiprotecting

I didn't really care enough to notify someone, but reverting that IP was starting to become a daily routine ;) I do wonder what their motive was. Suboptimal Username (talk) 07:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)