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Check your mail...

...that is all ;-) TFOWR 15:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I is checkin' HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid HJ I'm not receiving any of your mails :s --Diego Grez 03:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, you

I made all of one edit to this whole place after you pestered me. (I got really busy today after about 8 AM local, actually). The banner says I'll get around to doing what you asked "sooner or later", even though I didn't watch a second of the World Cup today, it was still valid in that point. Courcelles (talk) 02:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I wasn't stalking your contributions, just your talk page, which kept flashing up on my watchlist! I'm in for a nerve-racking 90 minutes tomorrow! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Remember when the orange bar went off once very other day or so? What happened to that? As to tomorrow, England had better win, and the U.S. deserves to go home for how they have played, but Group C has been rather wacky. Courcelles (talk) 03:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I haven't had that in months! I remember when it was novel to see the orange bar ("ooh, someone likes me" )! I hope they win, but frankly they've been shite- drawing against the US and Algeria! If that's the best we can do, we ain't staying in the World Cup for very long, but to not even make it out of the group stage would be humiliating. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, well. What a pair of games that was. US v England rematch in the quarters, anyone? Courcelles (talk) 15:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Random thought of the morning... Have you ever noticed how in some ways it is easier to write your own article than go back and reference someone else's work? Courcelles (talk) 12:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

But if there are no references, then how can one reference?  Davtra  12:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

That's really hard! I was thinking of the situation where no inline citations were included, but having to research someone else's prose de novo is bloody well impossible. Courcelles (talk) 13:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I know! It's not impossible, but it's bloody hard work! It makes you feel like you'd be better off deleting it and starting again from scratch! I'm trying to re-write Nick Parker at the minute- considering how much attention the article's likely to attract over the next few days and weeks, it makes sense to give the people something to read! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Nice work on the article. I compared it with the version before you edited it. I still have this nightmare to go through: vuvuzela. I rewrote the article and now I have this "Controversy" section to go through.  Davtra  23:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, you'll have fun with that! Didn't I handle an RfPP request for that a couple of weeks ago? I've barely started with Parker- British Army officers are quite easy to find the basic career details for, I'll do a Google news archive search at some point. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

bad use of rd3

I haven't contributed anything that's purely disruptive. I'd like to get it corrected. Please contact me. --Ring Cinema (talk) 05:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) OK, I'm unfamiliar with the background to this, and several edits (by an IP) have been oversighted, but it looks to me as if the only RD3'd edits were the IP's - however, some of their oversighted edits were to your talkpage. Off hand I'm not seeing any suggestion that you contributed anything "worthy" of RD3. I can help further with this, if you have a diff of a particular edit (if it's oversighted I won't be able to see the edit itself, but I will be able to see who made it, what the edit summary was, etc). TFOWR 09:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I won't comment on the exact content for obvious reasons, but from what I can see the edits were correct to be hidden. I will send you an e-mail too HJ, if you could check it. Thanks. --Taelus (Talk) 10:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

What was hidden and why? 'Oversighted'? I don't know what that means. Sorry to bother you, but my suspicion is that another editor is abusing this procedure for reasons of incorrigibility. I am quite sure that nothing I have contributed needs to be hidden for any reason. --Ring Cinema (talk) 12:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Edits made to your talk page by another user were deleted. Not edits you made. Courcelles (talk) 12:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Sock puppetry

• Hi,

I want to know why Misplaced Pages is being very aggressive to Sock puppet accounts?I've just saw many Wikipedians whose edit counts are near 10,000 but were blocked because of sock puppet account.Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 11:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The general rule is "one person, one account," which is particularly important since the site operates on consensus; offering an opinion with more than one account makes that position seem more popular than it actually is. There are very strict rules under which someone may have an alternate account; you should check out WP:SOCK and stop by again if you have any questions!--~TPW 14:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Indeed there are a few legitimate uses for alternative accounts, for example, I have one, which I sometimes use when I need to concentrate on something without getting distracted by admin buttons or new messages and so I can log in from a possibly insecure computer without risking my admin account, but it's perfectly clear from its userpage and signature that the account belongs to me. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewing

So can you answer (or point me to the page that can) a flagged revisions pending changes question? I just got notified of one, and when I clicked the link it diff I got included both the most recent revision (which was pending) and the prior revision (which was accepted). I went back through the history again and then forward and saw each diff separately. Is this a bug, or the intended functionality? Without a pending change I don't think I can replicate it, but I will see if it happens again and if it provides a link that I can show you.--~TPW 14:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's supposed to be like that. I think it's the difference between the most recent accepted version and the new edit by the IP or new account. That should allow you to tell if it's vandalism or not. Does that answer your question or have I missed the point? :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I think this sockpuppet has a question. ----moreno oso (talk) 16:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Do you come here just to tease the kitty? ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)Aw cmon, you and I know he's the real "brains" of the outfit. ;) ----moreno oso (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

What's the matter, HJ, cat have your tongue (couldn't resist)? ----moreno oso (talk) 18:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Barack Obama and WP:PEND

No, no worries about your protection. When I'd looked at it I thought it was pretty constant vandalism, but I was thinking more about readers and less about editors - and I've been inclined to let the WP:PEND trial run as much as it can. But it did get me thinking about using pending changes if it goes live, and I'd definitely want to move articles like this one to semi under live conditions.

Incidentally, there's a thread at WP:AN which I've just commented at, which relates to this. I mention this partly because I used Barack Obama as an example ;-)

Cheers, TFOWR 18:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw Eminem at RfPP, but avoided it on the grounds of "I have better things to do than get into a wheel war". It's daft- anyone with an iota of common sense must know that unprotecting Obama, Hitler, Bible and Eminem is just idiocy! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I think we need some more bearbots and catbots. Look how good the kitty makes you look! ;) ----moreno oso (talk) 18:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The first three were on my list; that last one is now ;-) TFOWR 18:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I wish WP:PEND assigned the probability of an editor's change/edit standing is. For example, looking at my contribs, 9 out 10 posts are live (rough numbers. Now, if we had a straight-up vandal with a probability of 0 percent, that would make looking at the pending change easier. Or better yet, if the system could look at contribs and decide that the editor's probability of successful live edits is low, then the edit should go to WP:PEND. ----moreno oso (talk) 18:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I say we need more ClueBots. And give 'em admin bits while you're at it, then sit back and laugh at the result! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Checking of Eminem

Did you mean to approve this? As I've rolled it back. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 18:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Didn't look like vandalism to me... HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

<shrug> I thought it looked like vandalism. I've now looked on Amazon for the two albums in question and done a Google and got no sensible results, so I think I was probably right. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 19:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I've no idea. He's only on my watchlist because someone was stupid enough to unprotect him. If this keeps up I'll re-protect it later. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

'British Isles' (?) born Australian Prime Minister

Have you heard? In about 4 hours Oz may have a red headed, female, Welsh born Prime Minister! See Julia Gillard. -- 220.101 (talk) 19:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh good, someone to keep the colonies in order! ;) Go nominate it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I was reading about that this morning, she could be Australia's first female Prime Minister (a bit behind aren't we?). Does she remind either one of you of Jodie Foster at all? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)HJ, Colony! not for the last 109 years! If you want back taxes contact Barack Obama! It's on the ITN/C 'candidate' list, have to wait for it to happen I think, which is 'said' to be likely. June, so long as she doesn't 'do a Thatcher' and invade New Zealand! Wasn't Australia the first country to give women the vote? Hm, from that angle she does look a little Jodie Foster -- 220.101 (talk) 20:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Let's ask the "real" brains of the outfit. What do you think, kitty? ----moreno oso (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I think she looks most like Ms Foster in the image on the Herald Sun website. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

In the little picture, yes. 'Serious' Puss seems neutral on the issue. Mrowwwwr? --220.101 (talk) 21:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Wait, the kitty's head is starting to move up; now down. Let's see if HJ's lips move. . . ----moreno oso (talk) 21:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Wow, 109 years? Has is been that long since we decided to make our prison and independent state? ;) I can just about see the resemblance with Foster, though both are a little old for my taste. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

See, that had to be the kitty talking. He's a pretty hip cat. ----moreno oso (talk) 21:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

She is prime minister now? @moreno oso How many kitties are on here?  Davtra  00:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know, there's only the one kitty that stares at you when you type a message. But, I have a feeling the kitty is the brains behind HJ ala the Wizard of Meow. ----moreno oso (talk) 00:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

This is also a long running gag about a month long or so. I came here to HJ's page probably late at night and was freaked by the kitty staring at me. I forgot about that, came back again and felt like a mouse looking like din-din for somebody else. Gradually over time, I have "gotten over" the kitty and now have some laughs with it. The "Hah" comes from a game which was the first to say "Hah" makes the other go away. --moreno oso (talk) 00:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and no offence intended (though I realise this sound rude), I'm really busy atm and could do with not having to end to the orange bar every 2 minutes. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

FYI

You had previously participated in an Admin recall petition for Herostratus, at the user's talk page. This process has now started. It is ongoing as an RFA page, for admin recall, at: Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Herostratus 2. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 20:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The edits and summaries should be deleted

The edits and summaries should be deleted. ----moreno oso (talk) 22:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Why? To be honest, I consider deleting them to be giving them what they want- they're only on my case because I deleted some edit summaries a few weeks ago and I have to say I find it more amusing than offensive. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking more about the kitty. Looks like he has fleas. ----moreno oso (talk) 22:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

See, that time it was pure HJ and not the "brains" speaking. Cats and dogs hate flea dips. Bears when they get fleas go for a dip. When stealing honey and attacked by bees, go for a dip. See a female bear, jump on the er, uh the Batpole and don a red cape. Yeah, that's the ticket! ----moreno oso (talk) 22:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Hi HJ!

Just to let you know, there's a sockpuppetry case going on that you may be interested in at ]. It's just I noticed this sockpuppeteer vandalising your page before, I caught another new user making the same sort of edits on another sysops page so decided to raise an SPI and request check user to see if there's any sleeping accounts.

See, it's handy having a talk page stalker sometimes isn't it?! And one that comes armed with Twinkle and Huggle in a flash! :p --5 albert square (talk) 23:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, no match for a banhammer! ;) We'll see what comes of the SPI, but I doubt a CU would turn up much. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Heehee, it's the next closest thing to a banhammer if you're not an admin! I honestly don't know if a CU will turn up anything either but as there was a couple of IPs making similar edits the other day that's why I thought I'd request it. If they don't think it'll turn up anything they'll simply say no. Then again I remember the first time I raised an SPI, CU said no to the check, changed their mind, did the check and then found an entire sock farm! So you never know, we could be wrong! --5 albert square (talk) 23:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Huey45

I noticed a comment you made at User talk:Huey45 stated "This is totally unacceptable and I will block you if there's a repeat." I will leave it to you to decide if my revert of Huey45 warranted this warning on my talk page, and whether any reaction is called for. Jc3s5h (talk) 02:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Probably not, but the warning (ironically) is not a personal attack. It may be uncivil, but it's not worth admin action. Try talking to him politely and explaining why you reverted him. Hopefully that will calm things down. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

TICK. TICK. TICK.

The ongoing 2010 northeastern Brazil floods have been expanded for your pleasure, oh humble mopper upper with the magic fingers. --candle•wicke 04:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Tone's already done it. And top with the ticking! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I helped with that one Mr. R00t 15:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Gonads3

The user has requested a unblock which is pending your comment if I am reading it right. Gtstricky 13:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi HJ, thank you for having the consideration to start WP:RFCN#Gonads3. I think it is ready to be closed now. Most of those who have commented seem to feel that the username is not block-worthy (although silly and perhaps a bit inappropriate), so unless the discussion changes significantly in the very near future, I will be closing it as allow and unblock the user. I'm telling you this in advance in case you would prefer to unblock them yourself. -kotra (talk) 21:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

That's fine, if the consensus is that the username should be allowed, I'll just have to go with that. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

User 9136jay

Can you have a look at 9136jay (talk · contribs) and his creations of

• Lifewood Date Technology Limited (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Lifewood Data Technology Limited (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Talk:Lifewood Data Technology Limited (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs)

To see if a disruptive editing block may be in order ? - I have also posted to Page Protection to get the first two SALTed.

Thanks Codf1977 (talk) 15:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I've deleted the articles as spam and blocked him for 48 hours as a kind of shot across the bow. Let me know if things persist after the block expires. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and will do. Codf1977 (talk) 15:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Pages in pending changes

Is there a place where articles that need to be on the pending changes can be requested? Do articles have to already be semi-protected and if they are, besides going to RPP, how can that be accomplished. I'm thinking in particular of Jamie Lynn Spears, which is a high target page for BLP violations and other problematic edits. I may come across others and it would help to know what needs to be done. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 15:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

You'd think they'd make that a bit more obvious, wouldn't you! WP:PCQ is the place to request it. If you cite the BLP issues, you should get it. I don't think it has to be protected currently to qualify, but I'm not important enough to make that call! :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree, everything about this trial is hard to find. But that just makes it tastier, huh? Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

New

I decided that we needed a new section, cause you got a lot of messages. Um, do you want me to copy-edit the Army officer's article? Is that what you're asking? I don't feel, bear with me. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:48, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

No, don't worry about him, his article needs much more than copy editing! Besides, I doubt British Army generals are of much interest to you! I meant you should copy edit the article BOLLYWOOD DREAMZ asked you to and that I could take a look at it later if you wanted. I can't work out if it's frustrating or exciting when I bump into a crappy article on someone who's clearly very important, but hey, at least it's easy to track the career of an Army officer since all their promotions are published! I expect he'll take a me a day or 2, then I'll get back to Eckhart! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Well, I already signed on to do the copy-edit, and after I'm done I guess you can do your turn, though, you should let Bollywood know first cause he's got three other people signed up. Do whatever you have to do, I still gotta add a couple of reviews to his article, anyway, so. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:00, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello HJ Mitchell, I wouldn't mind if you helped out with the copyediting. In fact, I would be very happy if you could help out with the article in any way. The more... the merrier :) Thanks -- Bollywood Dreamz 03:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I don't mind taking on copy edits. :) It's always interesting to have a look at other articles I'm not so familiar with. I'll wait 'til ThinkBlue has had her turn (I'm busy on another article at the minute, anyway) and then cast my eye over it over the next few days. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Userboxen

Since you like NCIS, I thought I would draw your attention to the userbox for NCIS: Los Angeles. Not sure if that is on yet in the UK (their first season just ended here in May). Give a look-see here for the NCIS: LA userbox, if you watch the show. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I've not seen the LA spinoff. I think they've got it on Sky at the minute so I expect it'll be next year before those of us who don't want to pay extortionate amounts of money for satellite TV get to see it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, gotcha. You might, not sure on this, be able to check iTunes and get the whole first season for super cheap. I really enjoyed it as it has this high-techy secret-agent kinda feel to it, but still has the same feel NCIS does as well. The episodes will hold your attention and there are still parts to make you chuckle too (like NCIS). - NeutralHomer • Talk • 02:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I just checked and the whole series isn't out yet, but a few of the individual episodes are up so I might buy the first one in the morning, but right now I'm watching The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, which, apart from being a bloody good film, stars a very, very, pretty (red haired) actress! ;) I'm also writing an article for the guy who seems to have found himself in charge of Afghanistan because your general couldn't keep his trap shut! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I also gave the NCIS: LA article a look-see and it seems the Region 2 DVD set for Season 1 should be out soon too. Probably cheaper to get the iTunes version though. Yeah, McChrystal said some stupid things in Rolling Stone. What confuses me is why there is always an American in charge, why not a Brit or a Frenchman? Seems there is more yelling that Obama fired McChrystal now, oh joy. We will be hearing that for weeks over here. There are days I wish I was Canadian, honestly. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 02:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye out for that on Amazon, then. I'm not a great fan of downloading something I can only play on my computer. I suppose it's always a yank because they do have the largest contingent of troops by quite some way. I don't know exactly how many US troops there are out there, but the UK only has 9500 (with a few hundred special forces that, for obvious reasons, nobody can put a number on). If only he'd kept his mouth shut. Perhaps he got bored of his job? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:51, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

According to the Misplaced Pages page, the US has 78,430 in Afghanistan, but that could have changed, so that is a rough number. Says the UK has 10,200, but I guess that has gone down too. Might need someone to come along and update those numbers and source them too. I think McChrystal, if I heard correctly, had been there since 2003, so that has got to take a toll, plus he had been in service since '76, so that is more than 30 years in uniform. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

A question.

I'm trying (though not very hard :)) to find someone that knows something about javascript to help me with something; do you know anything about it? ~~ Hi878 02:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

No, no, no, no! Don;t ask me anything technical, I'll cry! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:57, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

You can try asking this person: Giftiger wunsch  Davtra  02:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Wow... Point taken. Anyways, to be honest, I don't know anything about javascript either. I've just been guessing; I really have no idea what I'm doing. :) ~~ Hi878 03:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

And Davtra, I have already asked someone that isn't online, I'm just trying to find someone that is online. ~~ Hi878 03:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Possible Sock puppetry ?

• Hi,

In my research on Misplaced Pages, I think I have found sock puppet accounts.Take a look at these articles.:

• Eurogrand EG8180-RD
• Eurolive B1800X PRO
• Eurolive VS1220

They are all written today, in same way, in same formatting style, all about musical instruments written like advertisement.Though they all are created by different users.I think those are all sock puppet accounts.You should take action quickly.Those users are:

• User:Mackyquilala
• User:Musicrave
• User:Midori sama

Thanks and please reply.RegardsMax Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 09:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Plus Bunnyhophop (talk · contribs)

--> Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Mackyquilala  Chzz  ►  13:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Email

You have one from me. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 15:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)