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Your editing history?

I am surprised at how much you think you know about policy for a "new user." Were you a long time AnonIP who took a new name? Hopefully you aren't a banned user now using a sockpuppet, something very common in the Israel-Palestine editing area. Thanks for info. CarolMooreDC (talk) 03:03, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't clam to know Misplaced Pages rules inside and out. I do, however, know how to read, and that is enough for even a newbie to see that there was a considerable difference between what the rules actually say and what you implied they said, a wide enough distance to justify a comment. Goodwinsands (talk) 04:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I might as well add this. When I told some friends that I was thinking of editing Misplaced Pages instead of just getting frustrated at its inaccuracy, one of the first things they warned me about was "ownership issues" on certain entries, with editors who ceaselessly patrol their turf with intent to repel all comers, using what ever Nixonian dirty tricks necessary to guarantee the article continued to say that day was night and cold was hot, no matter how wrong. And their advice was simple: in such cases, simply walk away from an article like that. This is advice I am weighing. Goodwinsands (talk) 04:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Counterpunch

Thanks for taking a sane editing perspective at the Counterpunch article, where even my attempts to comment on the talkpage are now being redacted for soapboxing, while denial of Holocaust denial is left standing... BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Bob. It's very frustrating seeing people fall for the dodge "Just because I don't think Hitler ordered it, or Nazis used gas chambers, or they built extermination camps, or that six million Jews were killed, that doesn't make me a Holocaust denier. There once was a guy named Meyer killed by a guy named Hans, so *that* was the Holocaust, and I don't deny that so don't call me a Holocaust denier."

If you look through the archives of the Israel Shamir talk page, you'll see that there's one editor who repeatedly just blanked any reference to Holocaust denial in Israel Shamir's entry. Then the reliable sources started stacking up, and a quick poll showed he was outvoted something like seven to one. But now the same battle is being fought again from the "Holocaust denial? What Holocaust denial?" folks: "If he doesn't come right out and say that there was no Holocaust, you can't call him one no matter what all the reliable sources say." Goodwinsands (talk) 17:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

BLPN Israel Shamir

Hi, disputed cat is under discussion at the BLP noticeboard - please do not replace it without consensus there. Are you aware the article is under editing restrictions - please see the template at the top of the talkpage thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 16:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)