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Re:Persian peoples

I will see if I can help later, but I am watching it now. --a.n.o.n.y.m 01:32, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: your note on my page

Another admin beat me to giving that editor his final warning. If he bothers you again, I will block him. Having read the RfC filed in regards to your conduct, I can see that you're not entirely blameless here.... But that does not mean it is excusable for anyone else to violate policy and harass you. The issues you have chosen to edit are controversial ones, and there is nothing wrong with that. You (and everyone else) should be free to edit whatever they choose, without fear of harassment or even incivility from others. I would only recommend that you make sure to keep a cool head, and do not violate WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA (or, of course, any other policies) yourself, or you too will end up blocked. Right now, this case has gotten the attention of a small handful of administrators who are currently willing to defend you from the incivility of other editors. We will be disappointed if you do not respect the policies you wish us to uphold in judging the conduct of others. This is not a warning or an accusation, so please do not take it as such. If anything, it is a hope that cool heads and good, collaborative editing will prevail. Please let me know if there are any further issues. JDoorjam Talk 04:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I hate to meddle, but the problem is not that people are against him because he makes controversial edit; it is that unfortunately he writes subjects that do not belong in an encyclopedia, yet, more importantly, he refuses to work with others under any circumstances, and in some way games the system. I really apologize for this, but we just don`t know what else to do; he is being very disruptive, and it is frustrating. Zmmz 05:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

What to do? You and Aucaman could agree that all notable viewpoints deserve to represented in articles. That very often takes the pressure off. All sides give their best case and the reader decides. Insisting that some things are not to be mentioned because they are "controversial" or "anti-Iranian" or "do not belong" is censorship. Zora 05:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

WHy don't you try some things are not to be mentioned becuase you true untrue and misleading! 69.196.139.250 06:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Why are you trying to frame Me When I ask you civily to reform and Be productive?

I have pointeed out all your mistakes to you for your own good but you try and have me blocked. That is not right. You are the one who tried to mislead me and other. I only ask you to reform for the good of the community. Those are not personally attacks. Did I ever make racist comments like you did. It was not me who mae racist comments or got into fights. It was you with other users. It is not me that mass complaints are being formed against it is you Acuman. When I ask you to be be civil and behave you try and make it look like I am attacking you. That is not right that is the exact sort of behaviour you are using in the articles that is bothering people. How could you try and say the Nazis are the ones who gave Iran its name when it has been called Iran for thousands of years! Iran was only called Persia in cetain foreign countries, not by Iranians, Central Asians, Far Easterners, the Arab World, Turkey, etc. But yet you continue and say that it is in the name of objectiveness. What you are doing is very not right. ANd by trying to make it look like I am attacking you it is even worst. Instead of racist comments go make peace with the people you attacked.69.196.139.250 06:19, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

69.196.139.250 (talk · contribs)

AFAICT, he's not supposed to be. His last block has since expired. --InShaneee 06:14, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

As it says there, that was for 48 hours. He's now been blocked for another 48, though I think that copy/paste was some sort of accident (which I'll remove). --InShaneee 06:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

You can feel free to report anything else directly to me, and I'll go ahead and look into it personally. --InShaneee 21:35, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I should imagen that your extending that offfer to me to about Acuman if he continues any personal attacks on me or anyother user or is disruptive too! 69.196.139.250 23:42, 19

March 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to say in my defence I see it as a mistake to try and block me for asking Acuman to reform to follow Wikepedia rules or not to engage in racist attacks. I did nothing wrong. I neer got into a fight with numerous users, over 25 or so I beleive in his case. I have never once made a racist comment as Acuman has. I have not been the object of numerous investigation has accuman has! I have never had multiple complants as Acuman has! I beleive that you made a mistake in trying to block me. 69.196.139.250 23:47, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Good point!

Thanks -- I need to calm down. Zora 06:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

What do you have to say for yourself?

You did not reply. You archieved the page AGAIN, for the third time to remove it.

What do you have to say for yourself for calling Cyrus the KABIR, the symbol of an ethnicity, an illiterate murder?

You should be ashamed. --Kash 10:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Iranian

Being Iranian is not an integral part of being Kurdish. ???????????????????????????????????????????? being Iranian (of the country)is one thing ethnic classification is something else when making such claims please state what is the integral part of being kurdish? and how its different from being a Lur, Bakhtiari or Gilaki? its been talked on the talk page but its not resolved

common traditions (norouz etc. ) same language family common past (kings and queens) all Iranian empires have had varied contributions from proto kurds (Sassanids kings where kurds some had jewish wives so when making the case for jewish and kurdish genetic link state the histoy of iranian jews and that most of what we have now as imamzadeh shrines could be linked to and could be the tombs lesser known jewish prophets

whats Corduene compared to the existance of these people in all the main kingdoms even during the existence of that shortlived entity it cant be said that all proto kurds where concentrated there as most would have formed the core of the bigger iranian empires

why all this rush to erase the Iranian part what purpose does it serve its definitely not the truth

can you state any historical chronicles that would show that 2 or 5 or 7 centuaries ago the people living in the area you discuss had more ties with each other than to other neighbouring tribes.

can you qoute salladin on the essence of kurdish utopia ...please for the love of god dont qoute and use it as fact "Being Iranian is not an integral part of being Kurdish".

yes a kurd in turkey may not view the islamic republic of iran as his homeland but then a kermanshahi kurd too will have far less in common with him as he would have with a Lak or a Lur or even a person from Gilan.

ofcourse this is my observation and POV as much as your statement is but then what makes your claim more qualified —This unsigned comment was added by Loosekarma (talk • contribs) .

Request for Arbitration

I have filed a Request for arbitration against you. Please read it. Robert McClenon 02:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)