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La Treille

Hi Roger.

On 10 March I was invited by friends to stay with them on the outskirts of Aubagne. On the Sunday (11 March) we went in the early morning to La Treille, 10 minutes away by car, and my friend, Didier Quertier, took several pictures for me, two of which I uploaded onto wikipedia the next day. A picture of the fountain, dating from 1871, and of Pagnol's grave in the cemetery down the hill. Someone is now claiming that these pictures are illegal because of French laws. Ronhjones describes the picture of the fountain as a "panoramic view".File:Fontaine-La-Treille.jpg We do have panoramas of Marseille in the article there, also taken in France. This however is of a monument occupying approximately a space of only a few cubic metres. Please could you comment there as you are familiar with La Treille and with wikipedia policy. Here are the reports Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2012 May 12#File:Fontaine-La-Treille.jpg Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2012 May 12#File:Tombeau-Pagnol-La-Treille.jpg Here is a poorer quality image of the grave uploaded on commons by a French wikipedian.File:Marseille-Pagnol94.jpg Didier's picture is of better quality and shows the view down the hill also.File:Tombeau-Pagnol-La-Treille.jpg Regards, Mathsci (talk) 23:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks Roger for your comments. I appreciate that. Regards, Mathsci (talk) 18:20, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Banned or not

Hello. You mentioned the conduct of a party in a current ArbComm review towards a "banned user", who is presumably the person who at one time operated the account Echigo mole (talk · contribs). There is no evidence that this person has in fact been banned at all (although one party has repeated the claim on numerous occasions). Perhaps it would be a good opportunity for AC to rule on that issue. It would seem to be covered by objective (1) of the review's terms of reference, and it seems that there is no objection to extending the scope of the remedies to user who were not explicitly mentioned at the outset. Until then, it seems incorrect to use refer to that person in this way. Thanks. 94.196.3.173 (talk) 16:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Not wanting to prejudge this but is there any need for ArbCom to get involved? Echigo mole is indefinitely blocked for socking and, at first sight, because of their history subsequent socking, it seems unlikely any admin would unblock them. This is how a block becomes what's known as a de facto ban. Nevertheless, they could request an unblock on their talk page and see what happens.  Roger Davies 17:46, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Just to clarify, then, it seems that this person, whoever they may be, is to be regarded as banned, and this entitles any user to revert any posting that they think might have been written by them, without fornmality, and irrespective of any other considerations? This seems an open invitation to abuse, but I only want to clarify the situation -- if that's what ArbComm wants ... 94.196.223.219 (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Given the history of abuse by IP editors on that IP range, yes, that's pretty much correct. The purpose of Misplaced Pages is to build an encyclopedia not to let random people turn up when they like just to take potshots at various established editors.  Roger Davies 09:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Amazigh

Wikimedia received an inquiry that involved Amazigh. I see you are active in Wikiproject Morocco, and have consdierable language skills so I thought I'd check with you. Do you know the language?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, it's Berber, which I don't know at all, I'm afraid. The guy who does speak some/it is FayssalF. He's not been around much lately but he does have email anabled and he is very helpful. I hope this helps,  Roger Davies 14:20, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I tried FayssalF, but saw no recent activity. However, I'll try email.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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User bugging me

Hi Roger,

I have disclosed my other account that I currently do not use to Arbcom (to you). Now a user who has previously started an Arbcom case against me is bugging me with accusations of me being a sock puppet. Can you please have a look at the discussion and stop this. User_talk:POVbrigand#Other_account

Ever since he failed to get me kicked of the project with that Arbcom case he is bugging me with the same insinuations

thanks, --POVbrigand (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I did not make any accusations of sock puppetry, and that was never my intent. What I was looking for was if there was any conditions on the change. The impression I had was that your account would be limited to being a SPA. IRWolfie- (talk) 23:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

clean start account

Copied from User talk:POVbrigand for context. I'm here following a request on my talk page. POVbrigand is a Misplaced Pages:Clean start account not, strictly, an alternate account. The older account was disclosed to ArbCom last year. There's no time overlap (ie the older account was abandoned several weeks before POVbrigand started editing); there are no overlapping article edits; and the previous account's block log is clean.  Roger Davies 17:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

In reference to your comment here: . I thought clean start applied only to accounts that there was no intention to ever use again? Particularly: The old account must be clearly discontinued, I'm unsure if this refers to de-activated or simply not used. IRWolfie- (talk) 23:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Not editing for a year seems "clearly discontinued" to me.  Roger Davies 13:30, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

But there is an intention to re-use the older account at some future stage. IRWolfie- (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, the reason why I asked was I was curious if there were any specific topic limitations placed on the account, i.e cold fusion only. IRWolfie- (talk) 13:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

In that case, it's a (dormant) alternate account after all. It's unrestricted. Now I don't know where this is leading but unless you get there very quickly, it's unlikely I will have anything constructive to add.  Roger Davies 13:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)