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Please note: If I gave you a warning and reverted edits that you do not think were disruptive, leave me a note below and I'll look into it as soon as I possibly can. You might also try checking out this page, for common reasons that edits will be reverted. If I tagged your article for speedy deletion, please don't yell at me. It won't help your case. You are welcome to contest the speedy deletion nomination by clicking the appropriate link in the template notice. It will probably help if you specify a valid reason, though. With the exception of warning templates, if I've left a message on your talk page, it is already on my watchlist and I will see your reply shortly. There is no need to leave me a talkback notice in these cases. And finally, if I've done something mind-blowingly stupid, trout me!

Kuwait/IOA Total

I agree with the points you made on S&P's talk page. However, it's also bad to report information that is most likely false, even if we have no verifiable sources saying it is. Perhaps we should just leave the IOA total blank for now, with a footnote explaining the situation? Smartyllama (talk) 01:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a good compromise. Do we just set the athlete number parameter to "unknown"? I'm not quite sure if that might break the template, but I'll let you handle that if you like. The footnote is already in place, so we should be fine in that department. Evanh2008 01:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll try "unknown". If that doesn't work, I'll leave the field blank, which should work. Smartyllama (talk) 01:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

It worked with unknown. Once we figure out what the deal is, we'll replace it with the correct number. Smartyllama (talk) 01:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

London 2012's site has been updated; the three Kuwaitis formerly listed as independents have been moved to the Kuwaiti roster. Unfortunately, their total for that roster only comes to ten, rather than the number of eleven given by other sources. I don't think that this is a problem, however, as I'm no longer interested in citing London 2012 for information on which they have proven themselves to be unreliable. Evanh2008 04:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Something involving Rob Liefeld

Yeah, um, maybe you should lighten up? Rob Liefeld is absolutely terrible and "vandalism" doesn't really apply here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.97.104.66 (talk) 17:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Who said anything about vandalism? Evanh2008 19:11, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you're talking about this thing you did five months ago. Yes, that's vandalism. Don't do it again, please. Evanh2008 19:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

For alerting me to a BLP violation. Done. Dougweller (talk) 07:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Doug! I see now that there were two more that I missed, so thanks also for being thorough. Evanh2008 07:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

For telling me of what to know about Jaosn Russel, again, thanks. =)184.98.143.25 (talk) 09:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Evanh2008 10:23, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Reply to Note

I'm not sure what I did wrong and am hoping you can advise me. All I was trying to do was to agree with the mediators' decision about the Beatles "compromise." Did it seem like I was trying to do something else? I added my agreement under the "Your views" section on the mediation talk page. Wasn't that right? The note said I had refactored someone else's talk page. I'm not sure what that means, but, if I did a no-no, it was an accident. Thanks for any advice you can give me.Jburlinson (talk) 04:33, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

If you check the diff I posted at your talk page, you'll see that you accidentally removed two other editors' comments (and inserted one with Yeepsi's signature attached to it). If I misplaced your comment in repairing the damage, I apologize, and you can feel free to move it to wherever you think it belongs. Evanh2008 04:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Dude, stop templating people

The stuff on Alymustafina's page was totally uncool.

You are turning away potential contributors with your little kid mall cop antics.

TCO (talk) 04:19, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You have a valid point. I use templates where I feel that they will be more helpful than direct engagement, but in this situation I definitely could have handled it better. I'm just trying to sort things out where edits look potentially problematic, and things certainly did look problematic in this case. Edit summaries are to prevent confusion over things like this, and when they aren't used, the edits come across as vandalism, regardless of what they are intended to be. But I overreacted. I apologize, and I thank you for calling me out on it. Evanh2008 04:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Having established the above, would it be possible for you to clue me in as to the purpose of the edits in question? If I know that they have a decent rationale, I can guarantee that there won't be any confusion in the future. Evanh2008 20:52, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

I would just like to thank you for asking Aliyamustafina (talk) to stop deleting large chunks of information for no apparent reason. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed this and thought that it was destructive to the gymnast's pages. Since you warned Aliyamustafina the IP address 182.93.41.50 has been deleting the same type of information from gymnast's pages and I believe that it is the same user. I'm not sure what to do about it other than undo the edits on the pages that I follow and I would appreciate any help you can offer.Malluu12 (talk) 17:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, regardless of what the motivation is, those edits are disruptive without an explanatory summary. I noticed the IP edits last night and had intended to take a closer look at them today; I think you're right, though, as the pattern matches. At any rate, I don't think it's a whole lot to worry about. If the user doesn't explain the blankings, they can just be reverted and warned; and if it continues, they can be blocked. I've undone the edits and given the IP a level-three warning. If they start in on it later, they can be given a level-four warning and then taken to AIV. I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks for the notification! Evanh2008 21:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

60.246.242.89 now, too. Evanh2008 19:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Thanks, TBrandley 03:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Olympics page

No, I definitely wouldn't have done that on purpose. Maybe I 'selected all' and deleted the article in the editor by accident. My apologies. Stevo1000 (talk) 00:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries! Thanks for the clarification. Evanh2008 00:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin page

Evanh2008, I noticed a space between a letter and a period. I'm a stickler for stuff like that. When I entered the edit page, I noticed some formatted text in the location where the space was - text that didn't appear on the main page, nor added anything to the article, so I deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.122.77 (talk) 01:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

That's hidden text. It is there to inform editors about certain peculiarities about the subject or the writing style where confusion is likely; that's why it doesn't show on the article, but only while editing. I had assumed your edits were in good faith, however, so no harm done. Evanh2008 02:23, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Pink Floyd

Great edits at Pink Floyd Evan! Thanks for helping out! ~ GabeMc 22:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Gabe! Haven't done much of substance yet, but I hope to get around to some more in the next few days. Great work on your part as well. Evanh2008 22:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Getting Wikimedians to the Olympic Games

Hi. I am part of an effort to get Wikimedians access to the 2016 Summer Olympics as accredited reporters and photographers. Part of this effort includes covering the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Two Wikimedians have credentials to attend these games as reporters through Wikimedia Australia. As English Misplaced Pages does not allow original reporting, this is largely through Wikinews with a project page found at Wikinews:Paralympic Games. If you are interested in helping to get Wikimedians to the next Summer Olympics,I'd encourage you to assist with Wikinews efforts, and also to work on all language 2012 Summer Paralympic Misplaced Pages articles before, during and after the Games to demonstrate a track record of success. Thank you. --LauraHale (talk) 04:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification! I'll help out as much as I can. Evanh2008 06:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The trade mark argument as a legal threat

It occured to me that perhaps the trade mark argument for "The Beatles" is tantamount to a legal threat. Afterall, when editor "S" says, "Remember, 'The Beatles' is a registered trade mark of Apple Corps LTd." aren't they really saying, "if we don't cap all the definite articles Apple might sue wikipedia". Any thoughts. Also, I've asked our wikimedia general counsel, Geoff Brigham, to weigh-in on this issue, should be interesting. ~ GabeMc 22:16, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that's a completely valid way of looking at it. I don't see that the trademark argument has ever had any weight, but if the intent is to change the way Misplaced Pages does things by employing nebulous threats of litigation, I'd say that definitely falls under WP:NLT. Evanh2008 22:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

GabeMc, would you please provide a diff to that comment? The context is important, because if there's no more than this comment, I'd be hesitant to raise this up to the NLT level. That could be a violation of AGF. We should be cautious about doing such a thing and possibly blowing this up to more than just a comment. Maybe the comment is ill-informed, or maybe it's actually true, in which case it's informative and protective, not a negative thing. It is in the interest of Misplaced Pages and its editors to know if they are in danger of trade mark infringement. I suspect there is no danger, since fair use should cover mention. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I hear you, but since I didn't mention an editor do I really need diffs, which would actually implicate a specific user? As far as context, that is pretty much it, and they have made the comment numerous times. I can sure dig up the diffs if you want me to, though I'm not sure what that would lead to. ~ GabeMc 22:38, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Here is a diff, there are many more where this came from. ~ GabeMc 22:43, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Interesting information, but I don't see any type of legal threat here. If there are other diffs that sound more ominous and threatening, I'd like to see them. Even if the trade mark statement is true, I don't think we'd be endangered by using the terms in text here. Only if we use it for commercial purposes would there be a problem. I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong, and I'd certainly like to be corrected if I'm wrong. -- Brangifer (talk) 06:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Friendly notice

Hi Evan, Firstly, I noticed you've added input at Talk:Jerusalem, as a Wiki-acquaintance I would like to make you aware that there is currently an WP:AE report against Farouk regarding his conduct towards other users. I have faced such acts by the user in the past and still to this day don't know why s/he cast racial attacks towards me when I had never even been in contact with him/her. So I thought I best let you know just in case the user comes along to your (or any other) talk page and starts posting racial threats to you too.

Secondly I'd like to thank you for the barnstar award, that was ever so kind of you, and I appreciated it so much. ProjectOlympics should design an Olympic Barnstar too. The experience volunteering at the games has been out of this world, the Olympics alone were such a buzz with everything going on. The Olympic Park is now going through the transformation ready for the Paralympics in 10 days time. I'm helping out with some of that preparations and doing shorter periods of volunteering days, until August 29 when volunteering gets into full swing again right the way through until the closing on September 9. I can truly say that if you get the opportunity to volunteer at such an event like the Olympics, Paralympics, or Commonwealth Games - that you should seize the chance, you'd really enjoy the experience it brings. Regards, Wesley Mouse 08:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the info on Farouk, and you are very welcome for the barnstar; keep up the great work! Hope the Paralympics go well. Evanh2008 17:50, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Garden of the Missing Soldiers

An article that you have been involved in editing, Garden of the Missing Soldiers , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Beastiepaws (talk) 07:05, 23 August 2012 (UTC)