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Did you miss the third to the last comment on this thread? μηδείς (talk) 18:04, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Nope, but the moment had passed. --Jayron32 13:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't expecting a funny comment, it was an anecdote, not a joke. Just wanted to make sure you'd seen it given your comment in a later thread on your fondness for the word. μηδείς (talk) 16:17, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Ah. --Jayron32 22:29, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

RE: Thanks for getting that OTRS ticket

Yeah, no problem. It was a bit tricky this time - too bad there was so much going on at his talk page. Rjd0060 (talk) 03:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Robert S. Stewart

Back on August 21 you offered me some help in writing the biography of Robert S. Stewart. I am sorry, but after the violent blast from the editor DG, I almost lost all interest in pursuing the effort on WP. I had only submitted the first cut rough draft and asked for advice on how to edit, polish and complete the task. Finding references for businessmen is not easy. He is not a publicity hound who seeks massive public or academic exposure. But DG trashed any idea of offering me genuine help, just pontificated as if he owned WP. I asked for help five times and got abuse hurled back in my face each time. I asked for previous biographies of businessmen after DG said he had written and edited hundreds of them. Not one came back. I sought out dozens of business biographies and very few appeared. Who's Who is far better than WP for sourcing material but that is not a self-styled acaedemic publicity source either. Any sincere help and advice would be appreciated. Regards --Dawlatbaba (talk) 06:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

If you want some good articles about businessmen, here are some that I have found:
That's a wide variety of business people from a wide variety of time periods and industries. If you want to see what a decent businessperson article looks like, including the level of references we are looking for, you can find them there. Being a "publicity hound" is not a requirement for having an article at Misplaced Pages. Being written about in reliable sources is. I'm not sure if I mentioned this last time, but it is very important that we can verify anything written at Misplaced Pages, and we need a substantial amount of information to put in an article. If you can't find sources for enough information to make a reasonably complete article, then it likely shouldn't be written at Misplaced Pages. If the sources do exist, use them. If they don't, I'm not quite certain what else to say on that. --Jayron32 13:55, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 September newsletter

We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) currently leads, followed by Canada Sasata (submissions), Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and Scotland Casliber (submissions). However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.

It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!

The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some straw polls have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now sign up for next year's competition. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) J Milburn (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Pointy header

Hi. Yes, my header was pointy, and I make no apology for it. When something isn’t making sense to a long-term regular whose mental capacities have not yet been consigned to the dustbin, and he asks 4 times for an explanation, and nobody is forthcoming with any information, and he takes what he considers to be appropriate action, and he gets no support from anyone when that’s reverted – what else is he supposed to do? -- Jack of Oz 00:43, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say you were wrong in restoring the discussion. I'm sorry if I wasn't involved in that discussion, but in general I have been entirely consistent in my position on closing such discussions. You were fine in what you did. Consider my action an "endorsement with a modification". --Jayron32 02:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Editors named Jethro

Should I make a Misplaced Pages category "Misplaced Pages editors named Jethro?" --Jethro B 01:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You do what you gotta do. --Jayron32 02:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Shaking my head, sent this to the wrong editor. Meant to ask User:I Jethrobot. Sorry. --Jethro B 03:43, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
You do what you gotta do. Fer realz. --Jayron32 03:46, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - October 2012

The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter
Volume III, No. 1 – October 2012

September-December 2008, 2009, 2010, January-April 2011 | November 2012

Project News
  • There are currently 15,862 Good Articles listed at WP:GA.
  • The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 345 unreviewed articles. Out of 439 total nominations, 24 are on hold, 66 are under review, and 4 are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article! Even just reviewing one will help!
The oldest unreviewed articles are: General sejm, Prime Minister of Vietnam, Tanisha Thomas, Kosta Pećanac, and Jilly Kitzinger.
The categories with the largest backlogs are: Social sciences and society (80 articles), Sports and recreation (70 articles), Music (63 articles), Theatre, film and drama (52 articles), and History (41 articles). Please consider reviewing articles within these sections.
There are currently 13 articles up for reassessment at Good Article Reassessment. Please help out and go to WP:GAR and review an article! Remember that anyone can review articles that are listed under "Community Reassessment" even if another user has already listed their opinion...the more opinions, the better!
Member News
  • There are currently 222 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to all the new members that joined during the past 17 months! If you aren't yet part of WikiProject Good Articles and interested in joining WikiProject Good Articles, go here and add you name. Everyone is welcomed!
  • This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!
  • If you haven't done so already, please remember to add your name to this list if you are still interested/active with this WikiProject. If you are no longer interested/active you don't need to add your name anywhere, you're name will be moved into a "inactive participant" list at the beginning of November. Inactive users will not receive future newsletters from this WikiProject via their talk page.
GA Task forces
  • There is currently not much going on at this time but there is a very large backlog. Until the next backlog elimination drive, please help reduce the number of nominations by reviewing articles and helping other reviewers that may need second opinions.
  • Thanks to everyone who committed some time to help reduce the nominations backlog during the June-July 2012 backlog elimination drive. Most barnstars have been given out but there are still a few left. Participants that haven't gotten a barnstar yet should get it soon.
Possible Fall/Winter 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive
  • A discussion is currently being held on the WikiProject's talk page on weather another eliminations drive should take place within the next few months as the last one proved to be extremely successful. Please take the time to go to the the talk page and include your opinion on if you would be interested in taking part in a Fall/Winter 2012 elimination drive.
Good Articles of the Month

Each month, 5 random good articles will be choose to be featured here as the good articles of the month.

Some Tips About References/Sources

Having references included in articles is one of the most important aspects to a good article, let alone Misplaced Pages! Without them, no one would ever know what is true and what is false and Misplaced Pages probably wouldn't be where it is today. So this month, I will talk about how to check for references, how reliable they are, and so on and so forth.

The first thing to do when reviewing an nominee is to do a quick scan of the article. One of the things to look for is if the article has references! If you don't see a list at the bottom of the article page, quick-fail it. For newcomers, quick-failing is failing an article when you spot a problem before actually conducting a full review. If you do find a list of references (and in most cases you will) make sure to look through each and every one. If you want to save some time, use this tool as it will tell you if there are any problematic references in the article you are reviewing.

Next, check the reliability and type of the references/sources. In terms of the type of reference, check to see how many primary and/or secondary sources are included. Primary sources are the ones published by the subject of the article. For example, if the subject of the article has to do with the iPhone 4s and the source is published by Apple, it is considered a primary source. Secondary sources are those not published by the subject of the article (or in close relation to it). Newspapers are examples of secondary sources and considered one of the better types to include in the article (not saying primary sources are bad). If you find that most/all of the references are primary sources, notify the nominator about this issue(s) and place the article on hold once you have completed the review. Only in the event that a secondary source can't be found as a replacement, then the primary source can remain. If there is a good mix of primary and secondary sources, that is perfect and no references need to be changed.

Now, reliability. Forums are generally not considered reliable and some blog's may not be reliable either. Newspapers, most sources published by the subject, some blogs, etc. are considered reliable. If you don't know wether the source is reliable, ask for a second opinion. For more info about how to identify wether a reference is reliable or not, visit this article.

Finally, one of the more basic things to look for is that every statement in the article has at least one reference! The only case that a statement doesn't need a reference is when it is common sense that the statement is defiantly true and/or in the case where the statement can't be challenged, as per what Misplaced Pages says, "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable published source using an inline citation."

From the Editor

After a long 18 month hiatus, the third volume of the WikiProject Good Articles newsletter is here! Please leave any comments or feedback regarding this issue of the newsletter here or on the editors talk page.

Also, Happy Halloween...in advance!!!

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Contributors to this Issue
Did You Know...
  • ... that 2,100 articles have been reviewed during all backlog elimination drives combined?
  • ... that out of 4,055,039 articles on Misplaced Pages, only 15,846 are good articles?
  • ... that there are currently over 400 video game good articles?
Notes
  1. As of October 2, 2012 at 19:05 (UTC).
  2. Before quick-failing the article, verify that one of the several referencing templates is correctly placed at the bottom of the article. If the template is not placed, try to place it to see if references are displayed. If this proof returns no references, then proceed to quick-failing.

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