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is the inspiration for the helmet of Darth Vader. i dont believe this to be true. the idea that his helmet derrives from the standard wehrmacht stahlhelm is more common. because of the use of german stormtrooper also more plausible.

The word kabuto is probably related at a very ancient level to the Indo-European *kaput, "head." The helmet is protection for the head, and the first helmets were probably made of the skulls of bears, lions, and wolves. Das Baz 15:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget to mention kabuto beetles :)

Oh, and about Vader.. uhh.. he didn't wear hakama or robe/cloakness.. He had a cape. A superhero cape.

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 15:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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This page is a good example of image galleries run rampant. We need to to a few examples that support the text of the article. Please note WP:IG and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. I will be back to help with this later. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 17:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

  • I would suggest that you discuss any major changes to the article on the talk page first, this article has been stable for a long time, the images in my opinion are not excessive as they help explain the particular aspects of the kabuto, it is not just a bunch of images collected in an image gallery. Without the appropriate images to go along with the text a reader would not have a clear idea what the different kabutos and their individual parts looked like.Darkness walks (talk) 04:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
  • If you want to show various parts of the kabuto, that's fine, but this article has 25 image galleries (most articles have one or two!) and many of these include 3-4 pictures to show what one picture could show. For that matter, if pointing out the parts of a kabuto is the goal, why not make a diagram with the various parts labeled, like this one for an achievement of arms? I think that could achieve that goal with an elegant simplicity, without cluttering up the page with tons of images. Surely we can agree that 83 images in this article is excessive. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 15:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
    • Wilhelm, Japanese armor is much different than European armor, there is no way you could ever substitute some sort of chart and replace the usefulness of the images used in this article. Before the major text change to this article and the addition of the images (go back in the history and see the old article) this article was practically useless as a learning source. For someone who has no real interest and or knowledge of Japanese armor I could see were they might not understand but this is the best article on the subject of kabuto in the world that I know of. Without images of the different types and styles of kabuto and the associated parts all the text in the world would not give a reader with a real interest in the subject enough information to really learn anything about kabutos. Were you might see 3-4 pictures that appear to be all the same I see 3-4 pictures that show different aspects, take the "shiroko", this images show several different types, the same with "tate hagi-no-ita" etc.

It appears that you do not have a real interest in the subject but just want to "pare down the images", as far as I know you are the only editor who has complained about the way this article is presently laid out and there is a reason for that....for this type of article to properly educate people you need images, its as simple as that, in my opinion.Darkness walks (talk) 04:36, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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