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I don't want to be belligerent, but I honestly don't see the attack. Was it me calling it a game? Tarc was doing an 'experiment' to 'prove a point' and even stated it's 'been fun to pretend' and characterized the act as a 'schtick' done to 'push peoples buttons'. I don't think it is a far cry to call that playing a game.

As for the conclusion, while mine doesn't match his, I think its relevant because I'm saying he argued a point he didn't agree with, but was capable of doing so without being offensive. Something several other participants failed to do. So again, I'm not seeing the attack as it specifically states he wasn't being, as I said, a raving hateball.

If you still think its an attack, I understand but disagree. But did I at least get why, or am I still not seeing it? 204.101.237.139 (talk) 16:03, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I'll have to think about it. I need to take my wife to a doctor's appointment, so I'll get back to you. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:26, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I now see it as your misinterpretation of Tarc's comments, rather than an attack. If there's somewhere you want me to withdraw the statement, I suppose I should. I do apologize for my hyperbole. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:35, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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Pythagorean triple

Re https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Pythagorean_triple&diff=next&oldid=579416318 -- maybe you meant to undo one of the two earlier edits of FJackson? --JBL (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Both, actually. I question the importance of the entire bullet point. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:01, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Reverted Vandalism

I am not a Vandalizer please stop reverting valid content and making false accusations

Edit: my mistake I do not think you were talking about me

sorry for the misunderstanding if there was one — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editguy111 (talk • contribs)

I reverted the anon sockpuppet. You need to talk to Chewings72 (talk · contribs). — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:57, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Given your beliefs as per your user boxes, you may have a view of EditGuyy111's changes which I tried to revert but he put in again. Thanks --Chewings72 (talk) 01:30, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Judaean vs Jewish

Judaean preserves more value of antiquity and is more contextually accurate Jewish is a modern ethnic why do you disagree with these valid facts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editguy111 (talk • contribs) 08:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

They are independent concepts. As far as I can tell, "Jewish" is what is supported by the sources. "Judaean" (probably misspelled) is not the same thing. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

they are not the same thing I have already gone over that the Romans called the land of Canaan as Judaea and called its inhabitants Judaeans and they later annexed Judaea Lebanon and Syria into one big province called Syria Palaestina where the name Palestine comes from please revert it back I will keep trying to revert it as it is more accurate Editguy111 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: Source aren't there

yeah the sources are there stop reverting — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editguy111 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

@Editguy111:. None of the online sources supports any use of the word "Judaean", although the alternate title Philo Judaeus suggests one use of the term "Judaean". The (now complete) removal of the term Jewish should be considered vandalism, as "Judaean" does not imply "Jewish" by any stretch of the imagination. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

MOS:COMMA

I have opened a new RFC at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style § RFC: Proposed amendment to MOS:COMMA regarding geographical references and dates for further discussion. —sroc 💬 08:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Block request

Hello, Arthur, would you please block Special:Contributions/178.148.130.96 for expiry set of five months, because he/she did vandalism especially unexplained or reverted unsourced music genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.178.245 (talk) 00:26, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

No problems

No problems about the category removal at Burzynski Clinic, and thank you for your interest in the topic!

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Morgellons

I notice you recently reverted an edit to remove an important caveat that appears in the source from the article. Articles should not really say more than the source. grateful if you could explain the revertion on talk. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.196.6 (talk) 16:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

My recollection is that the source didn't have that caveat, but said it in the same voice as there is no evidence that Morgellon's is not DP. If I'm wrong, I apologize. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:18, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

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Paul Conrad (mathematician)

I am currently working on an article about the political cartoonist Paul Conrad. Whenever I work on a topic, I always check to make sure the subject is disambiguated. Today, I found that Paul Conrad (mathematician) is a possible article title. I have not heard of him, so I am not sure it is notable, but he is listed in the American Men & Women of Science. He lived from 1921-2006 and worked at the University of Kansas on ordered algebraic systems and group theory. Viriditas (talk) 03:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't recall the name, but I'll see if I can find something. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

RE: pp-semi

Your question doesn't say why I should do it. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 01:50, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

That's not a reason to "rollback all" my edits related to it. There are several pages that still protected. I'm not a bot, I can make mistakes. If I added a tag to a non-protected page, it can be removed, but there's no real reason to do it if the pages still protected. Also, if my edits included "removal of vandalism" (if any), why it should be reverted? Tools are certainly not used for those purposes. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 04:12, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

Didn't know you found talkback's annoying; I assumed you were just removing them because you had seen them. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Plasma cosmology

Arthur, I have no interest in the subject of Plasma cosmology, but a newbie is trying to delete large portions of the article. I have commented on the talk page and left warnings on their talk page. -- Brangifer (talk) 01:07, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

A newbie obviously created the original article in the first place. I am going to replace it - completely. The Plasma Cosmology page should be about Plasma Cosmology. The current article is little more than the culmination of topic hijacking. It reads more like an article about the triumph of the Big Bang Theory than an article about Plasma Cosmology. It will be replaced - period. I hope you will approve of my changes. I plan to remove every reference to other models and focus solely on Plasma Cosmology. If you have no interest in the topic, then keep your hands off. Critics are not authorities. Advocates are not authorities. I will present a neutral article that deals solely with Plasma Cosmology. Furthermore BullRangifer, your strong insult will not be tolerated. talk 21:43, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Coming from a newbie, that's pretty strong language which reveals a lack of understanding of how Misplaced Pages works. I've been patient with you. I could have already had you blocked for edit warring. Your attitude is what we call "I didn't hear that," in other words you are not learning from much more experienced editors, even though they have left you warnings, advice, and links to more information. We don't completely rewrite articles here. You don't own the article. It belongs to all editors, and you should show some respect for those who have put time into its creation.

We do want article improvement, so small increments are good for a start, considering you're a newbie. Right now you seem to have no sense of the situation. To illustrate, it's like you're wading into someone else's living room and demanding that they operate their home according to the rules which you use at your home. You're demanding they throw out all their pictures and rearrange their furniture because you don't like it, but you don't know WHY they have arranged their home the way it is. Maybe there is a reason. After all, the rules for interior decorating in their home (Misplaced Pages) are FAR different from the rules in your home (your website or blog). The rules are totally different here, and if you don't learn them and listen to what we're telling you, you will end up getting blocked. It's that simple. We are very long suffering with newbies, but when they don't listen and learn, we simply get rid of them. Now show a bit of humility and start asking questions instead of making demands.

Let me introduce you to whom you're dealing with right now: Arthur a very distinguished mathematician in real life and is an administrator here (sysop, 89588 edits since: 2005-08-15). I am a Physical Therapist (with a Physician Assistant education besides that) and an ordinary editor who does not wish to be an administrator (autoreviewer, reviewer, rollbacker, 40068 edits since: 2005-12-18). We are both experienced enough to help you, if you'll allow it. Since you will never be allowed to edit alone here, without other editors having a right to watch your every move, comment on your talk page (you do not own it), and revert your edits when there are ANY disagreements, you'd better get used to working with others. Communication and civility are valued here. That's how we work.

When in doubt, or if you meet any resistance, the proper reaction is to back off, ask questions on the talk page, discuss until a consensus is reached, etc.. Never attempt to force/push your POV into the article over the objections of other editors. The resulting article will likely never satisfy you, and that's okay. That's the way it's supposed to be. Other editors have a right to their input, and they will likely find reliable sources documenting POV with which you disagree, but NPOV requires the inclusion of opposing POV. If a subject is fringe, the article will document that fact and the mainstream POV will be dominant. We simply reflect what RS say.

You also need to remember to use edit summaries for every edit and comment, use the edit history to check for edit summaries before making edits, sign your edits properly (using four tildes (~~~~), etc.. I'm going to leave a welcome template at the top of your talk page. It has lots of good links to help you get up to speed. Read them very carefully before proceeding. I will also leave a modified copy of this message, just for the record. -- Brangifer (talk) 23:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)