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Bolt
Shouldn't Bolt be put under the Possible Second Renaissance section? It achieved a decent box-office success and critical rave, just in line with the other films that succeeded it.--209.240.48.138 (talk) 01:54, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- If you refer to the "Revival era"-section, Bolt is already there. What do you mean should be done? --Manes (talk) 15:19, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
The New Disney Renaissance?
Does the "Revival era" section maybe warrant an article of it's own? It's certainly a separate phenomena from the old Disney Renaissance. There's plenty of secondary sources that confirms that there is a second Disney renaissance going on. At the very least, more of this article should be dedicated to this new Disney renaissance. --Manes (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Walt Disney Feature Animation films from (1989-1999)
- 1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs vs. The Little Mermaid
- 2. Fantasia & Fantasia 2000 vs. Beauty and the Beast
- 3. Pinocchio vs. Aladdin
- 4. Cinderella vs. The Lion King
- 5. Alice in Wonderland vs. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
- 6. Peter Pan vs. Hercules
- 7. Lady and the Tramp vs. Don Bluth's Anastasia
- 8. Sleeping Beauty vs. Tarzan
Note: Tarzan is the last animated film in the Disney Renaissance Era until 2013's Frozen.
Including Fantasia 2000 makes no sense at all because (1) that's original research (2) POV (i.e., a biased statement) and (3) it is one of the films that marks the decline at the end of the Renaissance
The only source currently in the article regarding Fantasia 2000 is from a small Webzine no one has heard of which argues that Fantasia 2000 should be considered part of the Renaissance group of films. But even that article, in having to make that argument, implicitly acknowledges that Fantasia 2000 is not part of that group or else there would be no reason to make that argument in the first place. Furthermore, published books about Disney Animation such as Chris Pallant's book specifically mention how Tarzan is commonly seen as the last film of the Disney Renaissance.
Furthermore, it makes no sense to argue that Fantasia 2000 is part of the Renaissance, because it was a flop. At least Tarzan had a plot. (And Phil Collins.)
Relevant Misplaced Pages core policies include Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view and Misplaced Pages:No original research. The point of these policies is that Misplaced Pages follows or reports on trends in a neutral fashion, it never attempts to set them. Specifically, under NPOV, we do not give undue weight to fringe theories to create a false balance. The dominant consensus is that the Disney Renaissance consists of ten films. End of story. If you don't like that consensus, and if you really care, go get some articles published elsewhere. And if you don't immediately know which former Disney corporate director's famous words I am alluding to (or which film) with the reference about really caring, then you have no idea what you're talking about. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:24, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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