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Elizabeth II

...and I believed that finally commonsense had come to that article's intro. Now, I fear it's going to be stuck with that 'odd' looking version, which merely panders to a few Canadians ;) GoodDay (talk) 03:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

The unicorn, the lion and all the king's horses could have agreed that, egg-wise, there may be a proverb or axiom about an honest state of mind which can sometimes result in a deficient sense of proportion when it comes to editing certain topics, or taking part in discussion. Qexigator (talk) 08:04, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

It appears that progress is being stalled, by two individuals :( GoodDay (talk) 22:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree, but let's proceed via wikiprocess. Identify various candidate versions of the lede, put them to an RfC, and gauge support. I'm seeing a definite desire for a change, but not the details of any particular version. I think it would be wrong to leave the thing as it stands because we can't work out the model most of us want. --Pete (talk) 22:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Clarify: Are you & Track, asking me to hold off from opinoning on the proposed versions, until they're listed? GoodDay (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I had fondly imagined that I was merely compiling a list of the various versions which have appeared or been proposed, and that discussion would take place once we had assembled a list complete enough hat nobody felt their preference had been omitted. The difficulties and modifications of attempting to make such a list whilst other editors were expressing their views and holding conversations quickly drained my enthusiasm. I may resume when I have fresh heart, I may go and become a gypsie. Either alternative is equally likely, though the delightful weather here gives the latter an extra sparkle. --Pete (talk) 02:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Forgive my slight frustrations there. But, having stared at the absurd "Queen of 16..." version for several months, certaintly tried my patience :) GoodDay (talk) 22:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

That's fine. I often find that if I step away from the keyboard for a bit, my subconscious mind will sort things out and find a better way of saying something than what my conscious mind insists is the first and best way forward. Sleeping on a problem, in particular, is often extremely valuable. --Pete (talk) 22:55, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

There's something rather bullying about that Track fellow's approach. GoodDay (talk) 01:21, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Eliot Higgins. Legobot (talk) 00:01, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

September 2015

Hello, I'm Dennis Bratland. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Talk:Volkswagen emissions violations that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dennis Bratland (talk) 04:46, 30 September 2015 (UTC)