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   Buy the fucking record, and read the credits, cody hanson doesn't play the drums!!!!!!!

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18:05:38, 17 September 2015 review of submission by Nupur2000


Nupur2000 (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2015 (UTC) Please help me out. what else I need to feed in this article ?

    • You need to put into the article something that asserts notability. Why should what you're writing be in an encyclopedia? You need to include significant coverage and references. Yossiea 18:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Coz he is a renowned DJ from India. and his contribution towards Indian bollywood music is immense . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nupur2000 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hello there! I don't think we've met, but I see you roam the 7th circle of AfC! I thought you might be interested in chiming in at this discussion, given your knowledge of Judaism. It'd be nice to see this resolved. Thank you for your input. Regards, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:29, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I took a quick look. I try not to get involved in religious issues disputes, they tend to go in circles and I'm also not the most knowledgeable person out there. Yossiea 14:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Request on 06:22:56, 1 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Nittennair


Hi I have editted the article multiple time and have provided references. Could you help me edit this article so that it can get approved?

Thank you.Nittennair (talk) 06:22, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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08:05:06, 20 October 2015 review of submission by Kiffsy


Citation help

Hi there. I am trying to sumbit my first article and feel like a bit of a baffoon. Can you help direct me in regards to which sources need citations?

Article : Mike Conyers CEO of ResDiary

He is is a really interesting character and a titan of scottish industry, so I need to know how to get this up :-)

Thanks 

Kiffsy (talk) 08:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I'm not a real expert on citations, you might want to check out the teapost or whatever it's called. Basically, anything that you insert needs to be verifiable. So if you claim that Mike Conyers can do X, X needs to be referenced. You don't need a citation on every sentence but it needs to be verifiable, especially if it's a biography of a living person. Yossiea 13:37, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

17:35:19, 4 November 2015 review of submission by 193.4.74.32



Hi. My article was declined as it was mentioned it was the same as another page. This is incorrect as REYST is another organization all together. I can't delete or redirect that page unless there is another page to redirect it to hence why I created a new page under the Iceland School of Energy title.

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Request reason:

Please copy my appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard or administrators' noticeboard. Because there was no personal attack. Yossiea 02:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I've extended the block to indefinite; you don't get to call other editors "terrorists", ever, period, end of discussion. --jpgordon 18:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Have you read the talk page? It's full of bad faith, and furthermore, one of the editors is a supporter of hezbollah, look at his userpage. Why would I assume good faith for a terrorist supporter? Yossiea 05:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
It is unfair that I get blocked but others do not for also not assuming good faith. Yossiea 05:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
It is also unfair that I can't respond to the allegations. Yossiea 05:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I read both discussions and no, it's not full of bad faith. It's full of editors on both sides of the argument repeating the same thing multiple times, while making no effort to provide reliable sourcing or seek out dispute resolution, but I don't see any reason not to assume good faith. Nableezy appears to be a highly established editor in good standing and the fact that you perceive his personal viewpoints to be different from yours does not give you license to accuse him of bad motivations. The discussion is under discretionary sanctions and a higher level of decorum is expected. By accusing him of only caring about his personal bias, you have committed an assumption of bad faith, a personal attack, and have breached the expected standards of conduct. Swarm ♠ 05:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
1) Someone who has this on their page "This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable." is not someone Misplaced Pages should be touting as a model editor. 2) This by serialjospsych is not WP:AGF "The original research here is blatant. It's a waste of time for anyone to even respond. One editor's WP:IDHT, pushing for the acceptability of this but only if they can say Egypt is an occupier. They have multiple times been asked for a reliable source to justify it. Instead of doing so they move on continuing IDHT promoting original research. Another editor latches on to that original research. Another editor comes in with original research, ignores what they source used says and then reasons that the sources must be out of date because they don't line up with his original research. " Yossiea 05:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

(←) That is a bad comment to quote because it's entirely accurate. What I see there is an editor asking for you to provide reliable sources to support your position. That is not unreasonable, that is fundamentally how this project works, and you made absolutely no effort to substantiate your position with sources and instead repeated unsourced claims and exhibited WP:IDHT behavior in repeating the same things over and over again rather than responding to the opposing viewpoints. Regardless, that has no bearing on this block. You made an explicit personal attack, apparently because you disagree with a view the editor expresses on their user page. That is unacceptable. Swarm ♠ 05:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I disagree. I did bring sources. I brought Misplaced Pages articles. I brought their own logic. They didn't like it so they ignored it. So I asked again, if they claim Israel is militarily occupying Gaza by blockading Gaza, why is Egypt not doing the same? Egypt is also blockading Gaza. How is that not not the same thing? And yes, if people can't see that, then it is anti-Israel, the same UN that puts Saudi Arabia as the bastion of Human Rights but puts Israel as the most evil nation on earth. So I do have a valid claim for asking if someone is anti-Israel if after me asking them why Egypt gets special treatment that Israel does not get. Yossiea 06:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages articles and "logic" are not sources. Citations to material complaint with WP:RS are sources. Gamaliel (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I am writing about my block. I have provided sources, repeatedly. They keep posting that Gaza is under occupation. Yet the page they are editing is Military Occupation and it is different than a "regular" occupation. They then continue and say the reason why Israel is occupying Gaza is because Israel controls the border of Gaza. Well, Egypt does the same and I provided a link to that. When I pointed out, not too seriously that Hamas used to occupy Gaza, I provided a link to that, that Hamas was in charge of Gaza and it was not recognized by the PA, Israel or the US (among other International countries).

Furthermore, just so you know, nableezy is a supporter of Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. I doubt he should be editing this since a terrorist who endorses terror has a COI. It's certainly not IDHT to point out that if Israel is occupying Gaza due to a blockade, then Egypt is too. That, and the page is MILITARY occupation and as was repeatedly pointed out by others on the page, including debresser and fran9 there is no Israeli military presence in Gaza. I guess this is why James Madison said the Masses are asses. We have a Hezbollah terrorist telling me I'm not assuming good faith, and Misplaced Pages is banning me. That's why nobody takes Misplaced Pages seriously, and why I'm thinking of leaving.


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Sir Joseph (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Please copy my appeal to WP:AE, Hezbollah is a terrorist organization as per the US, EU and most other organizations. Calling a supporter of Hezbollah a terrorist is not attacking an editor in violation of WP:AGF, it's not as if I'm just attacking, this person is a terrorist sympathizer, big difference between an edit disput and a terror dispute. This has nothing to do with my edit dispute at the MILITARY occupation of Gaza and I was ready to cool down and begin editing again after my 48 hours were up but this is unacceptable. To not be able to call a terrorist a terrorist is, have we gone so far PC that the world is upside down? In any event. I think an indefinite block is extreme, you have already caused me to no longer edit Israel related articles. Yossiea 20:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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I'm not going to defend Yossiea's behavior - it is combative and uncooperative and he seems to have no awareness that it is inappropriate. But the user in question has had a userbox on his user page since 2010 which complains that he can't have a pro-Hezbollah userbox, and regularly has used his userpage as a soapbox on related issues. I don't think he should be calling out other editors, but I'm not sure an indef block is appropriate in this case. Gamaliel (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right place to comment for a non-admin. I'm quite new to en wikipedia and am not familiar with all corners of it. I participated in the discussion in the List of Military Occupations. While I don't agree with some of Yossiea reactions and don't think it is helpful to call other editors terrorists supporters (no matter whether they are or not), an indefinite block seems to me a bit too strict. In support of Yossia, I would like to remark that the discussion was quite heated anyway and some comments from "the other side" were also at least on the border of personal attacks (can provide links if this helps). Franp9am (talk) 21:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I appreciate that, and I would appreciate it if you would also comment at https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:AE. Thanks! (And this is not canvassing.) Yossiea 21:04, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm begging you guys please unblock me. I enjoy editing Misplaced Pages. I have been editing since 2005 I think. I have been active on and off for all that time. Do you think I want to stop? I don't want to lose this. Please unblock me. Yossiea 03:13, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
An indefinite block is not a permanent block. It's a block that last only as long as necessary to end disruption. At the AE opened on your behalf Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Yossiea.7Eenwiki one person has expressed concern that you don't understand the reason that you have been indef blocked though it is obvious. They question the ultimate likelihood of you ceasing your hostilities towards people you disagree with if you deny or don't understand the reason for the block. I feel that its likely you do understand why you were blocked. So the simple question would be do you?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 04:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)4
1) I do understand. 2) My point was and I think you mentioned it was that a) things are heated, b) a hezbollah supporter, etc. 3) I don't think I will be as active in Israel related stuff. I can't deal with the stress. I've been here since 2005 or so, and I've been in a couple of stupid edit wars, you should check out my dealing with daniel575 and his 9 sockpuppets and how he chased away good editors. I decided a few months ago to get back into editing Misplaced Pages and decided to also get back into content editing and not just AFC/AFD which I used to do more often. But I guess I won't. And as far as Gaza, I still think you were missing the point with the difference between military and regular occupation. But it makes no difference in the real world what a list on Misplaced Pages means. I took my chill pill. Yossiea 04:39, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Ok you understand that calling this individual a terrorist (I forget whom) was wrong. It happened due to the stress of a heated discussion. And you feel that staying out of Israel based topic areas will help insure that this doesn't happen again? This is my understanding of what you are saying but I do not wish to misquote you.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 05:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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