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Muhammad al-Mahdi in the Quran

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The very first line of this article reads "The name of Muhammad al-Mahdi in the Quran is not mentioned any time". then why do we have this article? The article is basically full on various "interpretations" of the Quran from Shi'ite scholars who may have explained a couple of verses of the Quran as mentioning the "appearance of Mahdi", and that too in a very ambiguous sense. There are thousands of interpretations of Quran with each verse being explained a thousand ways. If a person is not mentioned in the Quran by name, we should not mention him in a wikipedia article, because doing so will be cherry picking and OR FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 08:34, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

• Delete as per nominator. Edward321 (talk) 00:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

• Keep There's no need to have a direct mention of his name when he is explicitly mentioned in Quranic verses as the scholars say. If there are reliable sources regarding this issue then the article deserves to be kept. We are not here to judge the materials, and we have to reflect the reliable ones. "Mahdi in Quran" had been the subject of some scholarly works so we may have it here as an stand alone article. Mhhossein (talk) 06:52, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Self published and/or non notable run of the mill "scholars". Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:54, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Which of the sources used are self published or non notable reliable? Mhhossein (talk) 07:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Createspeace and Lulu.com are selfpublishing platforms providing everyone who has 100 dollars to publish a book. this appears to be in the grey area of notability to be frank and may not be removed if used with reliable sources but by itself it is nothing. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Per your previous nominations I think you have lack of knowledge in Islamic fields that's why you can't judge the sources in a proper manner. ِDo you know Sayyid Abul Makarim Hashim bin sulayman al-Bahraani? Mhhossein (talk) 08:09, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

• Delete WP:PROFRINGE says: "Proponents of fringe theories have in the past used Misplaced Pages as a forum for promoting their ideas. Existing policies discourage this type of behavior: if the only statements about a fringe theory come from the inventors or promoters of that theory, then various "What Misplaced Pages is not" rules come into play. Misplaced Pages is neither a publisher of original thought nor a soapbox for self-promotion and advertising. The notability of a fringe theory must be judged by statements from verifiable and reliable sources, not the proclamations of its adherents." The argument by Mhhossein is that "There's no need to have a direct mention of his name when he is explicitly mentioned in Quranic verses"; he cannot have been explicitly mentioned if his name is not directly mentioned.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Seyyed(t-c) 06:57, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

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