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Talatastan

Hi,

Given that the arab-israeli conflict article dispute has gone on for quite some time, and the permeable and highly observable frustration towards this issue from much of the editing community (and me included), and having time to reflect during my ban, I would like to propose a solution that will please everybody and the NPOV policy

Talatastan (talk) 23:17, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Talatastan, I have no thoughts on the content of the Arab-Israeli conflict on Misplaced Pages. I just neutrally enforce the ArbCom remedies. Please don't edit directly in mainspace until you hit 500 edits. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware that you are neutral and i highly appreciate that stance but I was just wondering if you are among the decision makers for the arab israei articles so I can offer my proposal to this incessant dispute? if not you then could you direct me to them? thanx and happy editing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Talatastan (talk • contribs) 15:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Talatastan, I am not a member of the Arbitration Committee, no. You can request an amendment to the decision at WP:ARCA, but they are highly unlikely to grant one, so I wouldn't suggest it. Also, no need to start a new thread every time you reply. Just indent by putting colons at the beggining of the thread equal to the amount you want to indent (so your next one would be :::: since I indented three times in this reply.)​ TonyBallioni (talk) 15:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Talatastan, you can make edit requests on the article's talk page to propose your edit and if it is deemed acceptable an experienced editor will make the edit for you. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:21, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Just FYI that I didn't get a ping for this, probably because the edit was too complicated. (I was about to shoot you an email on something unrelated and saw this highlighted, haha) Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:04, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

AfC editimprove-submit-declineadvice-editimprove cycling

Hi Tony.

Apologies for the recent AfC MfD RfC WP:Drafts stuff.

Would you mind looking at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Black Scar Blues and commenting. What does the RfC result say to this, are the decline template's softness and indirectness at some fault, and does this cycling the AfC process warrant deletion? Would you please comment assuming the drafted topic is plausibly worthy even if you decide that this one is not? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:38, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

SmokeyJoe: no worries. It’s all water under the bridge. I’ll take a look tomorrow. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Fairly obvious native advertising sock

Sheik Rey... adding references to crypto articles to boot. I've seen this abuse pattern before, which means it's a sock - but of who? Thanks for dealing with CharityEx yesterday, by the way. MER-C 20:30, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem re: CharityEx. I’m of the opinion we should block spammers as quickly as we block high school boys making penis jokes. The later at least have a chance of actually becoming productive editors one day.It behaviorally reminds me a bit of Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lilianarice, though the username format is different from that family of freelancers and they were pretty consistent. Might be worth poking around the deleted contribs there though to see if there is overlap.​ TonyBallioni (talk) 20:46, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

GRiR

Yes. Neither a new editor nor an experienced editor but in between. Makes mistakes that take a little knowledge (but not much, and that is what the poet said is a dangerous thing) of Misplaced Pages. Found by CU not to be using the same IP addresses as the previous socks. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Agnus Dei

I thought of you in this discussion about the 4+ articles we have, Agnus Dei, Agnus Dei (liturgy), Agnus Dei (music), Agnus Dei (disambiguation), and Lamb of God. Thoughts? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:51, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking of me, Gerda. I agree a merger is needed. I'd merge the music into the liturgy because while they can stand independently, the inspiration for the music is the liturgical prayer, and indeed, for many practicing Christians, the only time they ever think of the Agnus Dei is during their Sunday service, where it is usually sung (the low/daily masses that are unsung not being attended by the overwhelming majority of Catholics/Anglicans/Christians)I'd probably keep the redirect target the same as it can refer to the theological concept, and the prayer/musical settings are based upon it. If you do any merging and need thoughts, ping me. I'm going to be very busy the next few months with some life changes (all good), so I won't have as much time as I have the last few months to devote to Misplaced Pages, but I'll try to help out with anything I can on that merger.Also, while I have you here, if you have time, would you mind looking at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Papal conclave, March 1605/archive1 whenever you get the chance. The Serial Number has made some excellent comments, but getting some from a FAC regular would also be helpful. Never done a FAC before and trying to get that article up to snuff. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Still thinking phase: I could imagine two articles (+ the dab), referring to each other by a hatnote, Agnus Dei for liturgy/music, Lamb of God for the theological background. - That has time. - I'll look at the PR, but I am not the right one to ask, my last FAC just failed, and the one before (beginning of 2017) was what we call a "schwere Geburt" - giving birth not without problems, what's that in English? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I like that idea. Yes, that would be the ideal, I think. Figuring out what to do with the existing wikilinks would be less ideal, but I think you're on to something. Like I said, ping me and I'll try to help.Any thoughts you have would be appreciated regardless. I think the rough English would be "difficult labour". TonyBallioni (talk) 19:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Deleted article restoration

Can you restore Lost Kashmiri History with its history to my user namespace? Lorstaking (talk) 05:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done: User:Lorstaking/Lost Kashmiri History ​ TonyBallioni (talk) 13:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello TonyBallioni, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive!

• As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
• Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: . Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: , , , .
• Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere 06:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Dogmatic fact

Hey Tony, I'm just going through the February 2009 orphans and came across Dogmatic fact. I wondered if you had any ideas on how to de-orphan it, Catholicism isn't my speciality! Thanks, StraussInTheHouse (talk) 22:48, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Dogma in the Catholic Church would likely be a good place. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Michael Rigas

Hi why do you want Michael Rigas Delete? On the Political appointments by Donald Trump we need someone to make pages for some inportant people here are the names

Michael Rigas

Douglas Webster

Johnny Collett

Patricia G. Greene

Brock D. Bierman

and more so here is the links

https://en.wikipedia.org/Political_appointments_by_Donald_Trump

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/our-people-organization/senior-staff-bios/michael-rigas/

Thanks:96.36.68.29 (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

The community has decided that the rest of the world does not think he is important enough for an article. I'm trying to delete it because having puff pieces on mid-level political appointees is not the purpose of Misplaced Pages. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Netoholic

Could you please take an administrative look at the recent edit history of WP:COIN, with a view to the warning you recently issued to Netoholic? Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Tryptofish has some unclean hands in this. Might want to check his recent contributions too, as his involvement seems to be retaliatory/POINTy. -- Netoholic @ 20:45, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh, yes, do! --Tryptofish (talk) 20:46, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Blocked for 72 hours. This type of behavior at COIN after being told it was outside the remit of that board is not appropriate, especially given his recent warning. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment) I've made a third {{nac}}-ed of the at-dispute COIN thread about MrX, which was continuing to go nowhere quickly. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at User:Kudpung/What do admins do?

 You are invited to join the discussion at User:Kudpung/What do admins do?. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC)Template:Z48

RAN

Given that RAN cleared his talk page before your unblock and that he may have disabled inter-wiki notifications at Wikidata, do you think it would be a good idea to leave a note on his Wikidata talk page informing him of the unblock? It probably wouldn't be great if I did it but he has been active there since the block and may not have revisited this place since the page clearing. - Sitush (talk) 08:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Sitush, appears sorted now. Sorry for the later than usual response. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Mina Sadati article

Hi , please help for this article, help me for this article to stay in Misplaced Pages , they want to remove this article .She is a famous acteer in Iran, please help me, best regards Kurdistantolive (talk) 09:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I tried, looks clearly notable to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

The article has been reviewed and passed by Winged Blades of Godric. It looks OK to me. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Sheen Dass article

Hi,tonyballioni can you please restore this article. can you please help me in keeping this article.This actress is know for show Piyaa Albela and had also done two show earlier.Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asim543 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Asim543, could you please provide the correct name of the article. Nothing, AFAICS, has ever been created or deleted under the name Sheen dass. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:13, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Asim543, I won't be restoring it because it was created twice by a sockpuppet. If you want to create a draft and submit it through WP:AFC, I'd be willing to lower the protection if a reviewer thought it should go to mainspace. TonyBallioni (talk) 12:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi,tonyballioni sorry for the wrong name Sheen Dass and yes I can create the draft.Please provide me draft for Sheen Dass. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asim543 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

@tonyballioni I am creating Draft:Sheen Dass.Please do help me if made any mistakes.Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asim543 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-wikibreak

Why are you on a semi-wikibreak ? Kpgjhpjm 09:38, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Kpgjhpjm, probably because like all of us, he's a volunteer and wants a break. He doesn't need to provide a reason. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Kpgjhpjm, because real life is going to be very busy for the next few weeks/months. Despite rumours to the contrary, I actually have a life and this is just a hobby I'll still be around (and probably more than most), but my activity will likely be decreased a fair amount, so I thought it best to let people know. TonyBallioni (talk) 12:07, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Yup, I'll be editing on and off all summer too. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

TonyBallioni Are you retiring ? Kpgjhpjm 12:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

(watching) @Kpgjhpjm: a) Why do you feel the need to ask, and b) why is it any of your business? —SerialNumber54129 12:17, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Moonshine and Valentine

Hi tonyballioni,

Would you be able to restore this article? https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:New_user_landing_page&page=Moonshine+and+Valentine

Personally I find the Misplaced Pages pages for non-English shows (and movies!) like Moonshine and Valentine, very helpful because they explain both basics and details about the shows and can help people find out interesting information about actors, ratings, and the score and musicians that are often not easily accessible in English. Through my personal experience and that of many people I know who are also working on learning a foreign language, watching tv shows and movies, even relatively obscure ones, can be quite helpful. And Misplaced Pages pages like the one for Moonshine and Valentine can be a great resource for presentations or simply learning more information that we may not be able to understand by reading a foreign language or reading a google translated page (which can sometimes be more difficult \^o^/). Moonshine and Valentine was hardly an obscure show I'd imagine with popular stars like Victoria Song, Huang Jingyu and Li Shen and it's last episode (released on Tuesday) reaching over 2 billion views, so I'm sure this page will be getting more traction, especially since English subtitles are almost completed for the final 2 to 3 episodes. Is there any way to restore this page?

Thanks for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xiaoxiurui (talk • contribs) 06:06, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

The article was created by a pretty large sock farm, so I won't be undeleting it. You are free to create it as a draft if you prefer using the WP:AFC process. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:41, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank You!!!

Thank you for the range block for 32.218.0.0/16. This IP hopper has been annoying me for years now. -- Dolotta (talk) 19:26, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Pro Wrestling sanctions

Correct me if I'm wrong, but should we report anyone in violation of the sanctions to WP:AE after they've received a warning?LM2000 (talk) 04:42, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

No. These are authorized by the community, not the Arbitration Committee. ANI or an individual admin who is familiar with the area would be where to report. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:53, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks

Many thanks for drawing to our attention that there has been a proposal to close the Simple English Misplaced Pages at Misplaced Pages: Village pump (proposals). Vorbee (talk) 16:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created by Loveo2ofan/Boyhoodjams

Hi TonyBallioni, I'm a new page patroller and regularly write and patrol China-related articles. Today I approved the article Li Xirui and felt that I'd done it before. Checking the logs, I found out that the original version, created by Loveo2ofan, was deleted for G5. And I remember patrolling a number of articles created by that user, which are mostly decently referenced articles about notable Chinese actors. It's a shame that the user turns out to be a sockpuppet of Boyhoodjams, but I feel it's a loss to Misplaced Pages to delete all their articles. Could you restore them to draft space or my user space so I can vet them again and make sure they're ok for publishing? Thanks a lot! -Zanhe (talk) 18:57, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

No, I have no intent of restoring them, and I am of a mind to delete that article too as it looks to be by the same person. Bbb23, you may be interested in this, also Chrissymad as you filed the last SPI. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: I almost said something at the SPI about G5ing the articles. I'm glad you took it upon yourself to take care of it.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

That's a shame, because there are very few regular contributors in WikiProject China, and there are huge gaps in coverage of China on English Misplaced Pages. It would take substantial effort to recreate those articles, and they would most likely remain unwritten for years to come if not restored. -Zanhe (talk) 19:11, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

My concern is with the credibility of the English Misplaced Pages. Industrial scale socking for what appears to be native advertising undermines that. It’s better that we not have the articles than have them this way. You can obviously recreate them. My deletion log should make it clear which ones were there’s. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I already have thousands of articles on my to-do list that are far more important than pop stars. If I remember correctly, the articles the user created are pretty neutral, mostly basic bio and filmography, and hardly promotional. But if you've made up your mind, I'm not going to waste more time arguing about this. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 19:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Hijiri88 violated your instructions

Hijiri88 violated your instructions. Please comment on this. Dream Focus 23:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Tony, please either block DF for his continued close monitoring of my edits while claiming I am hounding him, or tell him politely but firmly to drop this whole charade, or just close this thread and tell us both to buzz off. I don't care which. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:56, 22 June 2018 (UTC)