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A barnstar for you!

	The Surreal Barnstar
	Had to do this… couldn’t resist it. You’ve done a magnificent job on the time you’ve spent editing and protecting Misplaced Pages. I hope and pray you succeed greatly in your life. Surge_Elec (talk) 21:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

I agree. See also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Did we lose The Rambling Man?

I hope not. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

You're referring to him blanking his user page and user talk with a "rip" edit summary? Not encouraging, but on the other hand it's only been a day.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello folks. I had some real-life things to address, but good news, I'm back and stronger than ever! Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Jesus. Does stronger than ever mean you'll be an even bigger treat than before, Gerald? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B10C:E9BD:294B:1AB:A017:A63E (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

You got my name right first time pal! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:47, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Review

Hello, I wanted to ask you if you could review the Capital Bra discography, I recently added to the flcs. I don't know if you do this on request, if you don't, I'm sorry. Cheers Lirim | T 19:21, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, of course, no problem. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

NCFC for the new season

Hi Gerald. Sweet Gerda has nominated History of NCFC for TFAR for first day of the new season. Sorry. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 17:28, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Ah, Gerald. I loved him. No worries, we'll spick/span budgie history up just in time I'm sure. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:31, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Admin NPA

Bludgeoning at ITNC

Did you even read my comment? I can't see how your comment here is a useful reply to mine or the two other comments you made the same reply to. As a reminder, you don't need to reply to every comment, and are generally expected not to reply to every comment. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:04, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I'm sure you realise there's a massive difference between an enforced removal from office and a gentle retirement, right? Maybe not. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Mr Pointy Bollocks

LOL .... I've been chuckling all afternoon. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Top notch banter. I'm the master. Even from Deutschland I own you....... ! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:21, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh no! Did May send you to negotiate a new trade deal?? FFS the entire EU parliament is going to be bogged down in ARBCOM by the end of the week --LaserLegs (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

It's ok, I've got Merkel where I need her. Alles gut. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:24, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

This is nice...

...not. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:41, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

...not. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:23, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

"With near certainty, you are now being deliberately obtuse." not directed at me, but very funny nevertheless. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Going well then The Rambling Man (talk) 05:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

The hospitals of London are warzones!!!!

Falcon Records (Texas)

You kindly provided some cleanup at Falcon Records (Texas) and correctly tagged the lede as too short (a common failing of mine when I write an article.) I've expanded the lede. Would you extend your magnanimity and re-review the lede and, if appropriate, remove the tag? Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:45, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

All good, tag removed, cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Peter Firmin

On 2 July 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Peter Firmin, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:17, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Queer

Meant to thank you for your comments on 4 July about the usage of queer. --Khajidha (talk) 21:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

No worries. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Couldn't arrange a pissup in a brewery

Tragic.

WP:MOS Question

Hey TRM! Hope all is well. I noticed your edit here, its been so long since I have gotten into the MOS at WP:FL, but last time I was there I gotten beaten up on overlinking duplicate items in the table. I assumed that this meant that only the first instance should be linked. Just curious as to what the prevailing thought is these days. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 13:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

It's a sortable table so once meddled with there's no guarantee that the linked item will appear first, so we link each linked item each time. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for the heads-up! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Automated message

*click* Thankyou for contacting the Admin corps on WP:ERRORS. I am sorry that the entire corps is out today at Mid-Beach, Florida doing a back-slapping exercise on the appropriate way to congratulate each other when we block vandals at WP:AIV, but if you'd like to leave your name, number, and policy you violated, one of the team will get back to you in the next ten years. Have a nice day.... *click* Ritchie333 12:43, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk about fiction imitatining life...that could be Oversight to a T  :) —SerialNumber54129 13:53, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Errors at ERRORS

Lynwood

Sca, the comma was already there. So yes, you missed the point of the error report entirely, which was to unlink Washington. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:25, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh. Doh. Sca (talk) 13:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Silly ideas

• It starts...
• Really dealing with the important stuff

Desired impact, sort of

• Speaks for itself, although the quality of content there right now is at rock bottom
• It's getting better all the time...

What the duck?

• When in doubt, duck it all.

Addendum

/not brook/

• I'll complain about the punctuation but.......!

"No space"

Why no space? (I added it before checking your edit.) SLBedit (talk) 13:16, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/List of England Test cricket records/archive1

Hi TRM, if you get a chance, I would appreciate if you could have another look at this FLC. All of your comments have been addressed. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 07:36, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the review TRM! Very much appreciated. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 22:07, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Nice work, both of you. Ianblair23, you need to revisit "A Test match is scheduled to take place over a period of five days" in the opening line as it's no longer true. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 10:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dweller, I have added a note about the trial of four-day Test cricket. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 12:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Smashing, ta. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:22, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Question about an edit

Can we talk about this edit? I have seen you make this change in several places but I believe it is outdated. I think {{Reflist}} is now equivalent to {{Reflist|1=30em}}. I think there was a recent change to make 30em the default. Am I wrong?--- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you’re wrong. It only starts dynamically recolumning the refs once there are more than ten. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:09, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I learn something everyday.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Pi Day

I find those exchanges on US date formats very revealing. A lot of Americans really aren't good at handling any criticism of the way they do things, are they? HiLo48 (talk) 23:50, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Photo Ark move

What the hell? I originally published this under the name you just moved it to, and it was moved to add the “The”. Now you moved it back. I agree with you obviously, but is this going to ping-pong back and forth now base on what any one editor thinks? RobP (talk) 10:50, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Also, when the original move was done I had to make the equivalent changes on Joel Sartore’s Page. Plus this timing is bad as this will be a DYK in just 11 hours. RobP (talk) 10:53, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

I just moved it to the correct name, including the "The", so I don't really follow what you're saying. It's clear from the fair use image that it's called The Photo Ark. The timing is perfect since it should be correct before it goes onto the main page. If there's anything else you need from me, or edits you need me to make, don't hesitate to leave me a message! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:55, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Please take a look at the history. In mid June it was officially renamed (against my wishes). So what makes your unilateral decision to rename it back the correct one? More importantly, since the name is controversial apparently, what is to prevent a constant renaming? As minimum this issue needed to be addressed on Talk. No? RobP (talk) 11:09, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed/looked. I moved it to the correct name. If you want to address it on the talk page, that's fine by me. If you want to move it back, that's fine by me. If you want to undo all the fixes I've made elsewhere, that's fine by me. Lunchtime. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:11, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

As I said, you put it all back to the original state that I wrote it... plus the Sartore article additions I made, so I have no desire to put it back. But as you are the one who did this second move, please just document it on Talk with sufficient info to head-off future ping-ponging. RobP (talk) 11:21, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

I feel no compulsion to do that. The original move was pointless and flawed in my opinion. If you want to link this talkpage there, that's fine by me. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:37, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

John Day (printer)

I've added the date in the body of the article - after verifying it against the ODNB entry. I can send you the entry if you email me first... (you can't send attachments through "email this user", which is a good thing). Ealdgyth - Talk 12:37, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much! The Rambling Man (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

RD: Roh Hoe-chan

Can you keep an eye on this nom and make sure it doesn't make it to post in the state it is in. I got comically heated in drafting an oppose vote which I decided against and instead saved it here.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 12:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I'll go take a look later, ITNC is on my daily to-do list. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:03, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

On flippancy

Rest assured that this edit was not motivated by the urge to "to position flippant images", as you put it in your edit summary, but by a general view of things running amuck within this project. I apologise for offending you by ignoring the closure by a member of Arbcom. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Well it was worse than that, it was abuse of a fair use image. I'd try not to do that sort of thing again if I were you. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:23, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

That was stupid indeed. I won't. Thanks again. ---Sluzzelin talk 10:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

No problemo. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:14, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

ERRORS

Hi, I've had a look over MOS:NUM and I don't see the part that says all the numbers should be written. All I can see that's relevant is "Integers greater than nine expressible in one or two words may be expressed either in numerals or in words", which means the current OTD is correct (although I think it'd look better if they were all worded). If you're able to clarify the notes I'll change it on the anniversary page. Cheers, Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:31, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

What you're looking for there is the "cats and dogs" (comparable quantities) clause. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:32, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! Must've missed that one. I'll change it now. Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:34, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

You are, of course, welcome. Sometimes the depth and breadth of my knowledge even surprises me. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:36, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi

I protected your talkpage to stop some disruptive editing to it. --Dirk Beetstra 13:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Probably better to just leave it and ignore it. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:14, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

I've removed the semiprotection per your request. --Jayron32 14:31, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

I promise I have let this go, I just want to know how I am wrong

In this, what source are you talking about? Because Crew, in Augustin-Jean Fresnel, is cited as an English secondary source, repeatedly? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 09:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

The source at the bottom of the article itself, called "A. Fresnel, 1818, "Mémoire sur la diffraction de la lumière" " The Rambling Man (talk) 10:15, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I think you are wrong. That source is in French and, in our article, it is appended to the French name of the memoir. Per MOS:FOREIGNTITLE, Retain the style of the original for modern works. For historical works, follow the dominant usage in modern, English-language, reliable sources.. We do not rely on the format of the title in a foreign language to determine how to format the English-language title. Look at the examples at MOS:FOREIGNTITLE closely.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I promise I have let this go... honestly? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Tit for tat

I don't think you have the right to close discussions, but in this case I don't give a rip. Bye. Sca (talk)

Honestly?? Hilarious. You ban me from your talk page yet feel enabled to toss this bollocks my way? Perhaps I underestimated you......... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:23, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

But this is interesting. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Tony Bullimore

On 1 August 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tony Bullimore, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 01:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:TRM clarification

Hi, does the date box denote when the item will go live or when it was noticed? A few of the things under July 31, like Incendiary balloon and World Trade Center station (PATH), are live right now but are listed under yesterday, and then there's John Komnenos the Fat listed under July 31 and was live yesterday. Anarchyte (work | talk) 04:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

It's supposed to be the date the items go live. As it's August now, I'll make sure that is "enacted", sorry for the confusion. But I suppose at the end of the day, if it's listed, it's either today or tomorrow! Thanks for your help. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Enrique Alfaro Ramírez

Hi TRM. Thanks for placing the "expand lead" template in the article. When I was reviewing it at DYK, I meant to mention this but totally missed it. My fault here. The lead is now expanded. Happy editing, MX (✉ • ✎) 04:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

BTW, enjoy this virtual cookie as a token of gratitude. MX (✉ • ✎) 05:03, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Frederiction shooting

Thanks for that, I didn't know to either include it in the modern history section or just create a brand new section for the shooting

Expand 2018 Fredericton shootings! The Rambling Man (talk) 12:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

TFL notification

Hi, TRM. I've just scheduled Arthur Ashe Courage Award to run at TFL on August 31. The blurb is here, in case you'd like to tweak it. Cheers. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:25, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Posting low quality articles to the MP

When people pile on support without bothering to read the article, you end with vote counting and crap articles posted. Vajpayee is in need of a copy edit (I'm not really good at such things, but I can tell when something is crap). Oh well. Hope you and yours are well TRM, and that your lawn has gotten some much needed shade and moisture.

Cheers

--LaserLegs (talk) 20:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

You only "end with vote counting" if the admin(s) doing the vote counting shouldn't be admins. That's not how to assess ITN articles for the main page, and hopefully now at least one more admin knows that. Mind you, if you looked at the shit that's piledriven to the de.Misplaced Pages main page (for example) you could easily see why it might be assumed that en.Misplaced Pages would be worse. Vorsprung durch Technik, not. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I can only read the de wiki through google translate, so they shit they post will lose some of it's nuttiness. At least this admin didn't post purple text. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

You can't expect every MP linked article to be a featured article, LaserLegs, we simply don't yet have the strength in depth in our articles to achieve that. Obviously the text that goes on the main page itself must be fully verified and good quality, but the articles themselves have a lower bar. Generally it's all about eliminating completely unreferenced paragraphs and tagging the more glaring and important statements with citation-needed. Something which TRM works tirelessly at everyday. The problems were identified with Vajpayee, and people (including myself) worked over several days to eliminate the worst problems and source the key facts. So it's not about vote counting, it's about common sense IMHO. Anyway, all the best to both of you. On the subject of lawns, mine is being replaced entirely with a new extension build soon, so I have allowed it to turn yellow with impunity.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:38, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Speaking of low quality articles on the MP, see above, we have 11 errors about to go the main page in around 2 hours! I think Trump would say that's "very bad". The Rambling Man (talk) 21:44, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Sad, he'd call it "sad". Is this guy watching your talk page, or my contribs? I think Trump would call that "sick". --LaserLegs (talk) 22:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

In this case I'm just being what they call a WP:Talk page stalker. With nothing better to do than read the chat here. Except fixing main page problems, of course. Which I will do now. (Pours more wine).  — Amakuru (talk) 22:41, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Some admins defending personal attacks and outright lies

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I don't want to talk to you, here or anywhere else, but I suppose I have to, since you keep edit warring. I'm not going to do it on Crisco's talk page, since you're the reason he left, and last time I (quite innocently) dropped your name on an administrator's noticeboard you threw a fit. Now, three administrators have removed the "response" you left for Crisco--as a former admin you should know what that means. On top of that, I can tell you I have Crisco's blessing to remove your post; you could have guessed, via AGF, that I wouldn't remove someone's post for no reason at all. That you may feel the need to respond is human, I guess, but it's not your talk page and you've been reverted plenty. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 00:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Drmies I couldn't care less if Crisco has "blessed" you to remove my truthful post in response to his personal attacks and lies. What is truly troubling is seeing you three admins rushing to defend personal attacks and lies from a departing admin. I didn't realise that you could attack other editors and lie about them and then huff off leaving no right for the victim to defend themselves. Well done, you've really set the standard here. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

You've already driven him off the site. There's no need to grave dance. Ed  00:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

The ed17 hilarious coming from you, and your staunch defence of personal attacks and lies is no surprise to me at all. Don't come here to lecture me, you need to look much closer to home before criticising other people. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Everyone knows how toxic you are. Ed  18:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Aha, Ed, perfect. A personal attack from an admin? Just brilliant. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Your behavior on that retired editor's talk page has been really ugly. Please cease and desist. Cullen Let's discuss it 00:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Cullen328 Ugly? It's got nothing on your abuse of your position and the defending of personal attacks and lies from a fleeing fellow admin. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for proving my point. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

You're not making any sense. But carry on defending personal attacks and lies Cullen, that's stylish. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

I am defending nothing and take no stance one way or the other on your most recent dispute. I am asking you to stay away from a retired editor's talk page where your input is clearly unwanted, in the spirit of simple human decency. Those are two very different things. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

You absolutely are defending personal attacks and lies. Your behaviour is ugly and not becoming of an editor, let alone an admin. Coming here to tell me that defending myself in the face of lies and personal attacks is ugly? There is no "dispute" here other than the problem you and your fellow admins have created by enabling a fellow admin to conduct personal attacks and leave lies littered around Misplaced Pages and preventing me from even responding to them. Now go away, I'm busy improving Misplaced Pages for our readers, something which all admins should be content to support. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:59, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

You are guilty of putting words in my mouth, and it will not be forgotten. Goodbye for now. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh please. Your behaviour and warning has clearly demonstrated that you are preserving personal attacks and outright lies on one of your former colleagues' talkpage. The abuse of your position here and your refusal to leave me alone will not be forgotten. See you really soon. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies and Cullen328: Y'know, at one time there was an explicit arb restriction on this sort of behavior. It has since been amended, but now there's this: "The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) is prohibited from posting speculation about the motivations of editors or reflections on their general competence." Huh. Ed  18:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies, Cullen328, and The ed17: none of this is speculation and none of it is general and none of it is about your motivations or general competence. It's about your precise engagement in personal attacks and defending personal attacks. Just look at the comments from three other uninvolved individuals. You've all been caught with your pants down and this will end very badly for each of you. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

It seems strange for me to be the one defending TRM, but as far as I can tell he is simply responding to an unfavorable personal comment. I don't see how that qualifies as "really ugly" behavior, and it is certainly not gravedancing. I understand that you guys are upset about a valued editor leaving, but Crisco could have left without taking cheap shots. Lepricavark (talk) 04:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm just going to second Lepricavark's comment here. Mr rnddude (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I think I agree. From a fairness point of view, if someone is named directly in a comment, they should have a right to respond, whether the editor concerned has left or not. Cullen328, I can see why you might not want the comments left on a page where the user is not around to remove them, but OTOH if you think TRM's comments were inappropriate then you should also remove Crisco's comments attacking him, otherwise you're just left with a one-sided debate in perpetuity.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;. I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him." power~enwiki (π, ν) 06:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

For the record

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The personal attacks and lies copied from this version of the talk page which has been protected by various admins.

• Xaos: do you seriously think five people I've known for five years (or more, in many cases) would all agree that I had asked for desysopping if my account had been compromised? Because of your unwillingness to handle a simple request, I've been forced to come back here. I wanted a clean break. Instead I am stuck with further proof that TRM is meddling in processes he has no idea about ("FIFO", "a bot could do it"... please, do handle the complaints when you have eight painting articles in a row, then nine different banknotes in the same series... and this after your "bot" puts together a one-sentence blurb that contains eight different titles for the same work) and have to waste more time on this site. It's a simple request: no mop for this account. If you can't handle that, I ask that you put yourself up for recall.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:19, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

   Done Access removed per your confirmation, with thanks for your past service. — xaosflux 17:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

• And to everyone else. Thanks for the wishes, I'm out.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

  Most of your claims are incorrect here. I'm not "meddling" in any process, I reported an unverifiable blurb which was slated to go on the main page. What I said about the process was I that I "thought" FPs were run FIFO (e.g. "Featured images are currently selected in roughly the order in which they were promoted (i.e. a First In, First Out order)." per Misplaced Pages:Picture of the day#Guidelines). I'm unclear where I said a bot should prepare the blurb (I work in a related industry, that approach is a bit of stretch). You're obviously very stressed about the fact that one single image was removed from the order (not by me) while its blurb and associated article were brought up to a minimum standard (which was well done as it happens). After all, my simple (optional) error report was simply raised for the benefit of the readers. Goodbye and good luck. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

It's *roughly*, not strictly, FIFO, meaning the person(s) doing the scheduling have some leeway to move things around as they see fit. —howcheng {chat} 15:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I never said "strictly" at any point. Nor was I meddling in things I knew nothing about. Nor did I "drive" anyone off Misplaced Pages. And the alarming display by some of the admins above has just underlined a need for a much quicker and centralised recall process. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:26, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

The admins who rushed to your condemnation were not defending a slain friend from a bad person, they were engaging in personal attacks, conduct unbecoming, and harassing. They were not punishing you for "meddling", they were punishing you for attempting to maintain content standards.

More of the same

• Becoming an epidemic
• Notes
• bod outburst
• tragic
• Do ron ron ron

Hello

Back from a bit of a wikibreak. Yet another. All OK? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:43, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, fine thanks. Hope you're well. The only glitch is the abhorrence in the thread above where admins are actively promoting and protecting personal attacks and lies. Same shit, different day! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:56, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

(redacted)

Just take TRM's talk page off your watchlist. That's the best advice I can give you. Mr rnddude (talk) 15:17, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Drmies you and your colleagues have done enough damage already, and you're simply making it worse. Get off my talk page and stop defending the indefensible. Disgraceful. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:32, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

400,000th

I thought this might make the basis for an article you'd enjoy writing. If it doesn't already exist. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 08:27, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I broke your page

Sorry. No idea how to fix it. Can you make it more idiot-proof, because I am an idiot. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Were you trying to respond to Fish and Karate? If so, you only need to indent. Mr rnddude (talk) 14:53, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Nope. New issue on same article. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:56, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate the help. My comment should be in the "notes" column, not indented. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Moved to notes. I tried to split the box, but I don't think that'll work, so I just bolded out a new issue. Mr rnddude (talk) 15:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Scratch that, I played around with the box and managed to split the box... kind of. Your comment is on a new line under the old one. I moved it just so that it won't be missed. Mr rnddude (talk) 15:26, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Star. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:30, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

You guys. You all deserve an indef block for overt vandalism. That's the only realistic outcome here.....! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I would like to ask you for input in a proposal I am working on in relation to Blurb vs RD. Everything on that page is tentative and represents my own limited attempt at gauging community consensus. We all have a common interest to introduce sustainable change to the process and together bring forward a proposal that is likely to have buy-in from the wider editor community. I hope we can work together to create something lasting. Colipon+(Talk) 00:07, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

École normale de musique de Paris

fr:École normale de musique de Paris - shouldn't they know? - User talk:LouisAlain has a good guideline for French titles. To make things worse, the name changed again, to something international, . I suggest we move the article to the modern name, but use the historique one in French, not what we think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Suggest a RM then. Plus, there are some general MOS rules around the capitalisation of French (and other languages). So until the article is moved or the MOS is changed, I guess we'll stick with Misplaced Pages's common name convention. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:04, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

I am out for the day in a minute. I know the rules for French opera titles: keep as French is. Why change names? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

That's not an opera, it's a place. I changed the names in accordance with the Misplaced Pages article. As already discussed. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Back, but again for a short time. The article is wrong. German and French titles - opera / place / book title etc - should not be subjected to English capitalisation, it hurts. Translate the name, if that helps, but don't use French and then pour English sauce over it. - We have a decent French redirect, - why not use it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

AS I said in my first response, by all means seek a requested move. French titles have their own style within Misplaced Pages which appears to capitalise in this sense, all I'm doing is complying with house style, nothing more. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:14, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

House style someimes hurts, compare A Boy was Born. As I said in my response, I was on only for minutes today, and a RM is nothing which will be solved by tomorrow, which is in a few hours. It's Leonard Bernstein's centenary then, and I have three articles to clean up, + make him a navbox, + one of my/our subjects died, Dieter Thomas Heck. Do me a favour, restore the school to a French name, Blanc studied in Paris, not in London. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

The school itself refers to itself using the capitalisation that Misplaced Pages prefers. I'm sticking with common names and the name used by the organisation itself. This is, after all, English language Misplaced Pages. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Unprotect please

Courcelles unprotect please, I already made that clear. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Courcelles ping failed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:27, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Unprotected. Black Kite (talk) 10:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

WiP

• List of international goals scored by Alexis Sánchez

Your mojo

Got any juice for this? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

"man alive, if I had a quid for every markup fix I make for you..." You are welcome to every penny of my overdraft. Seriously, thanks. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

What are the chances that I should stumble across this article today? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

THE LATEST AFFLICTION: "VITAL ARTICLES"

Wow. More on this in due course, but here we go, another "importance" parameter governed by no-one, applied by anyone. Awesome. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Looking forward to your comments. Misplaced Pages talk:Vital articles/Level/5#Articles being added without discussion. |Doug Weller]] talk 20:57, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Wow, I literally didn't know that was happening. Right? But Doug, as you know, my comments will not be acceptable to anyone, so I'll keep them to myself, but it is mildly amusing how suddenly, out of nowhere, someone is quoting "vital article" like it's a free pass. I shit you not. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Note to self: does (ANY) community believe that "vital article" actually means something? If not, what is its purpose? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:19, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Now this has become a "someone is following me" saga. So thanks to a well regarded user for leading me to a honey pot. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:35, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree with you that this is a meaningless project, ridiculous. I noticed it when they added "Vital article level 5" to 17 opera articles out of 11,000 seemingly at random. They didn't ask the opera wikiproject for advice. They have also added a number of Greek or Roman works of literature without consulting WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. I went to the talk page and told them I thought it was stupid and they seemed to expect me to add more articles to their silly categories, but really, what's the point? Is there any? I wonder why you are continuing to participate there, isn't it better just to ignore their silly game? What do you think User:Doug Weller?Smeat75 (talk) 16:45, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Smeat75 Curiously I had a similar thought earlier today, after all the various Wikiprojects ought to be the place to go to get the most informed advice on who or what would be considered vital, not just a skewed bunch of preferred additions from a handful of individuals. And declaring them as "vital" somehow makes that project feel that it is doing is somehow validated by someone or something outside the tiny microcosm of the "VA community" (which seems to comprise around half a dozen individuals at best). The Rambling Man (talk) 16:49, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)Some people are just obsessed with VA, which long ought be either subject to complete freedom from the fiefdom of the self-selected few or (better), be entirely dispensed with.I was just looking at DaGizza's contributions over the past few years and describing it as an obsession is probably charitable enough.∯WBG 17:31, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about reverting

I literally have no idea how I reverted you at DYK. My apologies. Jip Orlando (talk) 21:26, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Jip Orlando No stress, it's all good. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Old Farm derby

It's that time again. Wishing you the worst of luck and all that. I think you're going to do us. Finally. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 08:48, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

It's going to be a battle of mediocrity. At least we have Jon Walters back in time. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:02, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Is John Wark fit? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:21, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

It's a matter of opinion. I'd never be able to get past the moustache. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

LOL! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:41, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

If ever they were going to end their 16 year streak of not winning, I think it'll be this weekend. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:52, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

We were shit but it looks like the budgies were equally as shit. No honour, no glory. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

It was a terrible game. I'm not convinced either side will win the Champions League in less than two to three years. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:42, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK

FYI I've just copied the next set of hooks to Template:Did you know/Queue/4, since nobody else seemed to have bothered to do it yet. I haven't looked at any of them though, so don't blame me if they're inaccurate!  — Amakuru (talk) 22:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Would I ever? It's nearly too late for me too. I guess it's "god bless DYK" at this point. I'll try to review them tomorrow (when they'll have been on the main page for six or so hours) but the regular error rate means .... gah. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2018 (UTC)