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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 06:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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... that the first NYC Pride March, originally named Christopher Street Liberation Day, was proposed by Craig Rodwell, Fred Sargeant, Ellen Broidy and Linda Rhodes at the 1969 Eastern Regional Conference of Homophile Organizations in commemoration of the Stonewall riots? Duberman, Martin. (1994). Stonewall. New York: Plume. ISBN 978-0-4522-7206-4.
- ALT1:... that in November 1969 Craig Rodwell, Fred Sargeant, Ellen Broidy and Linda Rhodes proposed the first annual Christopher Street Liberation Day (later known as the NYC Pride March), to commemorate the Stonewall riots? Duberman, Martin. (1994). Stonewall. New York: Plume. ISBN 978-0-4522-7206-4.

Reviewed: No QPQ required (second time nominator)
Date request: June 28 (anniversary of Christopher Street Liberation Day)

Created by Lilipo25 (talk). Nominated by Autumnking2012 (talk) at 19:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC).

@Autumnking2012: Sorry that your nomination didn't reach the main page on the date you wanted. You did nominate it in time, but as you can see we have hundreds of unreviewed nominations and not many active reviewers. Next time, please post a note at WT:DYK to alert editors that you'd like a speedy review. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

AGF on the Alt1 hook source. New enough, long enough. No QPQ needed. Passes earwig. --evrik 04:56, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this. A few observations: (1) We usually move the bolded link to the front of the hook. (2) We try not to use names that don't have Misplaced Pages articles. The hook fact is hooky, though, so perhaps you can shorten this a bit? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

ALT1a:... that in 1969 Fred Sargeant, Craig Rodwell, Ellen Broidy and Linda Rhodes proposed the first Christopher Street Liberation Day (now the NYC Pride March), to commemorate the Stonewall riots?
ALT1b:... that Fred Sargeant, Craig Rodwell, Ellen Broidy and Linda Rhodes proposed the first Christopher Street Liberation Day (now the NYC Pride March), to commemorate the Stonewall riots?
@Yoninah:, thoughts? --evrik 20:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Evrik: thanks for the alts. Personally, I think the hook fact is that the liberation day commemorates the Stonewall riots. It takes time to get past this list of names. We also don't put parentheses in hooks. If you want to keep this hook angle, why not write:
ALT1c: ... that Fred Sargeant was among the gay rights activists who proposed the first Christopher Street Liberation Day—now the NYC Pride March—to commemorate the Stonewall riots?

Yoninah (talk) 20:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah:, Approving Alt1c--evrik 20:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 20:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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Medium is a banned source on Misplaced Pages, as it is a blog. In addition, the Daily News Op-Ed does not say he "condemned trans women". It is not "whitewashing" to remove contributions from banned sources and which do not say what the source says. I will therefore remove it again. Newimpartial, you have never edited this page before, and once again, you are WP:HOUNDING me in retaliation for challenging you. You came here immediately after I made a report about WP:PERSONALATTACKS violations you have made on the Linehan page to an administrator, apparently after checking my user contributions, to begin an edit war with me. You have done this before in retaliation against me when I challenge you. I ask again that you cease. Lilipo25 (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

That is a complete characterization of my activity on WP and a personal attack. Please don't do that.

Medium is not a "banned" source but anyway, I have revised the text and improved the sourcing, using and citing Sargent's Tweet in his own words (which is covered by WP:ABOUTSELF for inclusion and DUE because it is referenced in LGBTQ Nation, a high-quality RS). Newimpartial (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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