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Second RfC about returning Currency.wiki back to exchange rate template

The tag was removed but clearly states "When discussion has ended, remove this tag and it will be removed from the list." there was no discussion nor expiration date, or am I missing something? Henryguide (talk) 04:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Henryguide: Please don't use the {{rfc}} tag to ask for help (see WP:RFCNOT). When asking for assistance on something that has occurred (presumably a tag of some kind being removed), it's best to provide a diff of the edit or edits in question.
If you really think that you need an RfC, please read WP:RFCBEFORE carefully and follow the directions at WP:RFCST. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Ahh, got it! I was just going through my messages on Talk page. So how do I create a "succinct summary" is there an example?
So can you or anyone explain why Fxtop.com was reverted back so quickly? via request https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template_talk:Exchange_rate&diff=934032676&oldid=934030155 and reverted by https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Exchange_rate&diff=934030073&oldid=929964724
Please don't archive this post until it is squared away. Henryguide (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
What is this "succinct summary" for?
As regards reverts, have you asked the person who made the revert? Your first diff shows an edit by Valerie Nurse (talk · contribs), your second an edit by QEDK (talk · contribs). Only the second of these is a revert.
I'm not going to archive anything. That's up to lowercase sigmabot III (talk · contribs), which is configured to archive threads after 40 days of inactivity. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
It was reverted because there was a use-case for the link - I spoke to Coffee (the person I reverted) and they agreed with it as well, nothing more complicated. :) --qedk (tc) 19:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Redrose64: I apologize, that message was not towards you, I was saying in general whoever was archiving my posts. Even though you've stated that its bot and usually after 40 days of inactivity but sounds like it happened again. Henryguide (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Regarding 'succinct summary' honestly no idea, but it was suggested by Red King if you check my talk page. Henryguide (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@QEDK: Thank you for your prompt reply but, what's wrong with my use-case? Henryguide (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Right, so by "succinct summary", they actually mean a "brief and neutral statement". RexxS (talk · contribs) did that for you in this edit, as noted on your talk page. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it - I only justified my revert since you said "why was that done so fast?" --qedk (tc) 17:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Please stop archiving my questions

This is an issue with Misplaced Pages, absolutely not fair to other contributors. Not sure if its a bot or a person, but whoever is doing this, PLEASE STOP archiving my posts. Please be fair. Thank you! Henryguide (talk) 19:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Please don't make complaints like that when it's already been explained to you. Consider this edit of yours: most of it was a reversion of the previous edit, and in so doing you erased part of the edit summary, the part that would have read Special:Contributions/Lowercase sigmabot III|Lowercase sigmabot III]] (]). That would have given you an immediate clue.
In the edit summary that you typed in to replace that, you remark "who ever is doing this, please stop": you can very easily find out, since the edit that you reverted is quite clearly marked as having been made by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk · contribs). This is a bot, and not only is it not watching this page, it cannot answer you.
Prior to that, you claim "this is very suspicious, there is no reason to archive this" - it's not suspicious at all, I explained it above; the bot archives threads that have no activity in 40 days. The most recent timestamp on the thread that it archived was 16:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC) and 40 days on from that is 16:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC), so archiving is working as designed.
In your post above, you request "PLEASE STOP archiving my posts". In the thread that was archived, three people had posted - HaeB (talk · contribs), Evad37 (talk · contribs) and Mascarponette (talk · contribs). None of those is you. Moreover, when Lowercase sigmabot III runs next, it will archive that thread again, because it will still be more than 40 days since the most recent activity. That will produce another problem - the thread will then be in Template talk:Exchange rate/Archive 1 twice, meaning that somebody (probably me) will need to do a maintenance job to remove the duplication. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Exactly as I predicted. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
I just said "thank you" for a query to wikify the template, surely it can be archived. Mascarponette (talk) 19:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Look, why can't you understand that lowercase sigmabot III (talk · contribs) is a bot, it is not a human being. It cannot read English, let alone understand any questions or remarks that are posted in threads. It cannot identify unanswered questions. It certainly cannot distinguish an open thread from one where useful discussion has concluded. All it cares about is how many days have elapsed since the last post to the thread. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Conversion direction: correctness and consistency

I stumbled across this template at Swedish krona § Exchange rate as I was researching the Nobel Peace Prize. That award comes with about 9 million SEK, but how much is that "in real money", I wondered. Happily, there's a table with a few Forex site links, so I could click in the row for OANDA (my usual site) on the "USD" link and see how many dollars in a krona. Or really: how many dollars in 9 million Krona?

That's fine (and what I expected), but if I click on the links for other sites, like the XE USD link, I go to a page telling me how many krona in a dollar. In other words, backwards. The Yahoo and fxtop links are wired this way, too (in my view, backwards), and the Google similarly displays the currencies "backwards", but allows entering "9000000" in either field for an immediate conversion in whichever direction I want.

So:

  • Shouldn't these links be going from the first parameter's currency to the other currencies?
  • Shouldn't all of these links be built to convert in the same direction (even if it's the direction I call "backwards")?

Thanks. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:10, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 August 2020: https for fxtop

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please change all instances of "http://fxtop.com" in the template to "https://fxtop.com".

The fxtop pages, hideous in appearance though they are, appear to be served as https now, so our links should point that way. (Furthermore, in my current WP skin , there's a padlock icon next to all https links, and something smaller next to http links. As a result, the table doesn't line up nicely, because the fxtop links are each a little narrower.) Thanks,— JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:19, 23 August 2020 (UTC) — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:19, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

To editor JohnFromPinckney:  done. P.I. Ellsworth  ed.  09:07, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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