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Suspected sockpuppet account of banned user BhaiSaab

I suspect that user Itaqallah (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a sockpuppet account of banned user BhaiSaab (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He seems to have taken over the edits of this page in the same style as BhaiSaab as you can see by looking at the page history.--CltFn 04:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, he could be.Bakaman 04:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Israeli Art Students controversy

Are you sure the deletion Israeli Art Students controversy of makes sense? I looked at the google cache here and it's not entirely clear it's the same article discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Israeli art students. The original DEA report can be found here (scroll down). -- Kendrick7 10:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

By the way, did you know there's a big yellow box at the top of your talk page? -- Kendrick7 04:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Panairjdde

If he had been playing nice then I wouldn't have known about him. However, it turns out he has been up to his old tricks. Aside from the edit-warring, often on the same subjects, he's promised not to use sockpuppets any more, much less several of them. I hadn't heard of this editor before last week, but it is clear that he was given a second chance and abused our trust. Misplaced Pages is not a reformatory or social experiment in rehabilitating difficult editors, and I think we've been more than fair with him. Jayjg (talk) 17:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, how exactly did you discover him and all his "sins"? I've known him for well over a year, and we've never exchanged so much as a harsh word. Misplaced Pages is not a gulag either, it is run on the quality and dedication of its volunteers. Pan has devoted a great deal of his time and effort over the years to helping build this encyclopedia. That those who are too busy trolling, stalking and persecuting him, fail to appreciate this fact, only makes this the project poorer.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 11:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I sent you an email, but you ignored me. May I kindly ask you where/when I promised not to use Sockpuppets? Have you ever tought to just ask me if I had any sockpuppet?--##Panairjdde## 21:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a funny feeling that his...er...spirit of contribution may be alive and well at an IP address near you. Dppowell 20:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

No, that's not me, this is me. If it was on you, you would send people to death penalty based on your opinion.--##Panairjdde## 21:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

80.195.226.94

Hi there! Glancing briefly at my watchlist, I encountered 80.195.226.94 (talk • contribs). The anon' is vigoursly presenting a POV and I believe his/her contributions to Misplaced Pages need to be monitored. I'm unable to commit myself to that, so I decided to refer to a user who I believe has dilligently endured others who have exhibited similar editing patterns. Well, at least I think you have....? Apologies for the imposition. ;-) SoLando (Talk) 13:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Getting Pco Blocked

Thanks for lying to people about what I did to get me blocked. What is your problem? Pco 20:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

And whoever posted this on the history of your talk page, was not me:

1. (cur) (last) 04:42, 17 December 2006 Pco (Talk | contribs) (→Suspected sockpuppet account of banned user BhaiSaab - zionism)

because I never posted anything to your user talk page. Pco 20:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Another possible sock of BhaiSaab India101 (talk · contribs) and Bikiwuv (talk · contribs).Bakaman 02:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

likewise, possible socks of User:Hkelkar: 70.113.93.111 (talk · contribs), Khilafat_Osmania (talk · contribs), Averreos-Avicenna (talk · contribs). ITAQALLAH 18:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Zionism

If you had responded on the Zionism talk page before reverting my edit, then I wouldn't have needed to comment here. In any case, I just responded to your comment over there. Would you please respond, rather than waiting till the next time I make the change and simply reverting it? As I said over there, I would also be extremely appreciative if you could actually explain yourself, rather than simply writing curt and combative comments which make your specific objections entirely unclear. Or am I being unreasonable now? Mackan79 04:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

AFD:NeshAir - more problems with User:FrummerThanThou

Hi Jay: Latest chutzpah at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/NeshAir. Thank you, IZAK 13:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Sound familiar?

Who's this guy? --jpgordon 03:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

It's this one . Check this for confirmation . Not 100% certain, but "I recognize that tune." Antandrus (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

That's what I was guessing (the "cosmotheism" stuff), but I'd not been involved in that scene. --jpgordon 03:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

POV?

On the Jesus article, you removed a piece of information that was stated in the Bible. It's not point of view. --Yancyfry 04:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, embarrassing. I didn't read it right. Sorry. -Yancyfry 04:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, according to the Bible, He is. It aslo says He is the Son of God, the Son of Man, Emmanuel, and a whole bunch of other stuff. -Yancyfry

Ok. I get what you mean. Sorry to bother you. =) -Yancyfry

Category:Palestinian rabbis

What does one make of the new Category:Palestinian rabbis and Category:Talmud rabbis in Palestine, should they be renamed to something like Category:Rabbis of ancient Palestine? so that it does not connect, and become confused with, the way the word "Palestinian" is used today (meaning the very unJewish modern Arab Palestinians, who have nothing to do with these rabbis!) Thanks. IZAK 09:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

• Hi: I have created a solution: See Category:Rabbis of the Land of Israel and Category:Talmud rabbis of the Land of Israel. Thank you. IZAK 14:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Not using "Palestine" or "Palestinian" for Talmud and rabbis to avoid confusion

Note: Many articles about the rabbis of the Talmud and Mishnah are derived from the archaic Jewish Encyclopedia, published between 1901-1906, over one hundred years ago (when the Middle East was still under the thumb of the Ottoman Turks) and which used the archaic expressions "Palestine" when referring to the Land of Israel, and to the Jews living in the areas of the historical Land of Israel as "Palestinians." This is a big mistake that requires constant attention and correction, especially when copying and editing articles from the Jewish Encyclopedia or from similarly archaic sources such as Easton's Bible Dictionary (1897). At this time, no-one uses the term/s "Palestinian/s" (in relation to anything associated with Jews or the land they lived in and which they regarded as their homeland) nor by any type of conventional Jewish scholarship, particularly at the present time when the label "Palestinian" is almost entirely identified with the Palestinian Arabs who are mostly Muslims. Finally, kindly take note that the name Palestinian Talmud is also not used and it redirects to the conventional term Jerusalem Talmud used in Jewish scholarship. Thank you. IZAK 13:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Not using "Palestine" or "Palestinian" for Talmud and rabbis

Makes sense, I'll try to remember. However, there was a period when everyone referred to the land of Israel as Palestine. Therefore, to say something like "in 1940 Shlomo Pines emigrated to Israel" would appear to be an anachronism. Don't we have to use the term "Palestine" during a certain period for historical accuracy? What is this period? From Roman conquest until 1948? Thanks. Dfass 15:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

• Hi Dfass: Note: The term "Land of Israel" is an old one of Biblical origin, whereas the name "Palestine" is considered offensive by many Jews because it was coined by the Romans after they crushed the Jews of Judea-- and needless to say today it refers exclusively to the Arab Palestinians and never to Jews. Note also that the "Land of Israel" article is not the same as the "Israel" article because the latter refers to the modern post-1948 Jewish state. My main concern was about rabbis from the Mishnaic and Talmudic eras, up until about a hundred years ago being called "Palestinians" on Misplaced Pages as a follow-through from the many articles that have been copied and pasted from the old Jewish Encyclopedia and which collectively create the wrong impression. Such are the hazards of relying on dated information, long-discarded terminology, and unsuitable writing and communication styles. Misplaced Pages as a modern encyclopedia should not be relying on archaic terms such as "Palestinian rabbis" that could potentially cause grave misunderstanding. I think that from the time of the British Mandate of Palestine, also shortened to "the British Mandate" and sometimes "Palestine," that Jews were associated with those terms from 1923 until 1948 when the modern State of Israel was declared. I hope that you have noted that I am most definitely NOT saying that whenever the Jewish Encyclopedia uses the term "Palestine" that the single word "Israel" should be used -- obviously I do not mean that because when Israel is used alone on Misplaced Pages it refers to the MODERN State of Israel only. On the other hand, what I am saying is that when the word "Palestine" is used in archaic sources that predate modern Israel, and when writing about Judaic topics that relate to the Middle Ages, Talmudic, or Biblical times, then the better, more accurate, less controversial term for Misplaced Pages to use is "Land of Israel" which is historically what the Jewish people, and everyone else in academic life, have and do still call it. Hope I have clarified myself, and thanks for caring. IZAK 12:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • OK, I think I get the drift. I will pay attention to it in the future. (Don't be so down on the Jewish Encyclopedia though! It's an incredible work, written by some tremendous scholars. I think these articles significantly raise the quality of Misplaced Pages, whether their English is somewhat archaic or not. If you compare a JE-borrowed Misplaced Pages article to one written by "the masses," you can't but be struck by the difference in quality and scholarship. The typical Jewish Wikipedian (myself included) is not capable of producing articles of anything like that caliber. Most Wikipedians cannot even be bothered to cite the sources for the couple of factoids they manage to dredge up from their memory of 10th grade.) Thanks again for the clarification. Dfass 15:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Hi Dfass: I am not down on the old Jewish Encyclopedia at all, and I fully agree with you that it is a more than masterly work of scholarship. But is was written in the context of the culture of over a hundred years ago as a product of the nineteenth century! My specific concern at this stage was only about how the meaning and application of the word/s "Palestine" and "Palestinian" are getting "lost in the cut-and-paste process" because one hundred years ago, "Palestinian" was used as an academic adjective as for example, together with "rabbis" ("Palestinian rabbi/s") or the Talmud ("Palestinian Talmud"). Up until 1948 the words "Palestine" and "Palestinians" still had application/s to Jews because of the existaence of the British Mandate of Palestine until 1948 in the territories of historically Jewish Land of Israel. Since then, the name "Palestine" and "Palestinians" has shed any connection to Jews and the modern Jewish State of Israel which was set up in contradistinction to an Arab Palestine. Particularly since the rise of the PLO (the Palestine Liberation Organization), following the 1967 Six-Day War, the term and notion of "Palestine" and "Palestinians" has become thoroughly and exclusively connected with the Arab Palestinians to the point that no-one (not in politics, academics, the media, religion, etc) associates the name "Palestine" and "Palestinians" with the Jews or Judaism, so that it can safely be said that the notion of a "Palestinian Jew" is an archaic anachronistic discarded notion. So when cutting and pasting articles from the one hundred year old Jewish Encyclopedia, one should not fall into a "time warp trap" by blindly pasting articles from it without some sensible updates, and not to inadvertantly recreate and foster terminology for Jews and Jewish Israelis that neither they nor the world accepts or recognizes. One needs to be conscious that the term "Land of Israel" is a well-established name that has survived for a long time and is still the preferred term of choice when speaking in modern terms, so that Jews not be confused with Arabs and vice versa. By speaking of the Category:Rabbis of the Land of Israel, meaning rabbis (or any Jews) associated with a historic geographic area, one also avoids problems such as calling pre-1948 rabbis or people "Israelites" -- used only for people in the Biblical era or "Israelis" -- which refers to citizens of the modern State of Israel. Thanks for your input. IZAK 07:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Judaism's view of Jesus

Hi Jay: I received the following message, perhaps you can assist. Thanks. IZAK 10:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Izak,

I've been involved in a discussion with a christian editor at Judaism's view of Jesus who is holding to the fairly common christian interpretation that Judaism and christianity are pretty much the same thing and therefore the article should reflect christian views as well. I'm enjoying the conversation, since the editor (Just nigel) is more restrained than some, but I'll be away for a few days between now and the weekend. If you're interested, the discussion is at the bottom of the talk page. Dbratton 10:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC) (crossposted to Jon513)

Thank you

Dear Jayjg, thank you for giving me your support at my rfa.--Berig 11:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

request for arbitration

I've filed a request for arbitration regarding your use of checkuser privilege.

Justforasecond 22:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Travbar

Jay, if you still have a view on the antisemitism template travbar, would you mind posting a comment? I feel that these things are vandalism magnets. Cheers, SlimVirgin 22:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

172.163.57.130

Well, User:172.163.57.130, who is also obviously User:172.137.17.81, User:172.128.26.209, User:172.129.88.160, and so on, appears to be trying to re-create the deleted category "Jewish-American businesspeople" as a list. Factually speaking, there are some obvious mistakes in their edits (there's Milton S. Hershey, who is obviously not Jewish, which his article even states , or William Cohen, who is not particularly Jewish according to most sources). They've done stuff like . So yeah, I'd guess it to be a case of an A.W.A. - an Anon With an Agenda. Mad Jack 05:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Frummer creates User:Jesus

Hi Jay: Unfortunately, User:FrummerThanThou has crossed the lines of acceptable editing. He has now created a provocative new "user" User:Jesus. See User talk:Jesus#Problem with your user name. I do believe that admin intervention is overdue. Thanks. IZAK 08:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Religion

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Religion FYI: Hi Tomer! A Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Religion has asserted itself in the Korban article. The project indicates that it is an umbrella project for all of religion and that the current religion projects are subprojects of it, yet its member directory lists only six members. Where is the project coming from? Is it a broadbased project, a very small group with a very big reach, or what? If you know some background or some of its people, would be much appreciated. Best, --Shirahadasha 03:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

• Hi Shira: I noticed this comment. Their assertion is outrageous and false and should be rejected and disputed to the full. There is no "supreme council of religion" on Misplaced Pages and there never will be. Each religion has its experts and contributors on Misplaced Pages and none of them will ever tolerate interference from outside busy-bodies. Judging by their user pages, the members of this "religion" project are obviously coming from a Christian POV and seems they now wish to "double dip," pretty funny actually. See my notice on that page, below. Thanks, and may the Lights of Chanukah dispel all ignorance and darkness. IZAK 10:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

NOTICE and OBJECTIONS to WikiProject Religion vs. Judaism

Hi: Please see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Religion#Judaism. Thanks, IZAK 10:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

NOTICE and OBJECTIONS:

1. No-one has the right to take upon themselves to be the controlling "project" for every religion on Earth!
2. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Judaism has been, and shall remain an independent project and will not accept interference in its work based on the assertion that editors not familiar with Judaism's traditions have a self-appointed "right" to interfere with Judaism-related articles by mere dint of being members of a "religion" project.
3. So far, as of 12/21/06 the mere six members of this project, are mostly Christian, (as self-described on their user pages) and raises the question, why don't they do their work in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Christianity (81 members as of 12/21/06)? How can a project with six members "pass judgment" on other projects with one hundred and twenty four members?
4. What will members of other projects, such as Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Islam (64 members as of 12/21/06) think and react when "religion project" editors will advise what's best for Islam-related articles or not?
5. Note: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Judaism adheres to WP:NPOV and is one of the oldest Misplaced Pages projects with over one hundred and twenty members (as of 12/21/06), a number of whom are respected sysops as well, highly knowledgeable about many matters relating to Category:Jews and Judaism.
6. It would not be advisable for anyone to interfere with Judaism-related articles or Hebrew Bible-related topics that ignores the broad based consensus and general agreement that exists between Jewishly-oriented editors of Judaic articles, many of which touch upon Jews because being Jewish includes being both a part of Judaism as well as being part of an ethnicity, and a project on "religion" alone cannot and does not have the scope to touch upon issues that effects not just Jews and Judaism, but also Israel and Jewish history, see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Jewish history (with 33 members as of 12/21/06) and a broad range of related issues and projects, see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Jewish culture (19 members as of 12/21/06) and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Israel (23 members as of 12/21/06).
7. Finally, Misplaced Pages is not the forum to create a de facto neo-"ecumenical project" which is only bound to cause confusion and resentment and will result in confusion and chaos and inevitabley violate Misplaced Pages:No original research; Misplaced Pages is not a publisher of original thought; and Misplaced Pages:Avoid neologisms.

Thank you for taking this matter seriously. IZAK 09:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Response to NOTICE and OBJECTIONS to WikiProject Religion vs. Judaism

Hi Jay: It is very important that you see the points and the response from User:Badbilltucker about his aims at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Judaism#NOTICE and OBJECTIONS to WikiProject Religion vs. Judaism ASAP. Have a Happy Chanukah! IZAK 15:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for Comment

Hi Jayjg,

An RfC case involving you has been opened here . --Aminz 14:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jay

What do you make of an edit like this? This is the kind of thing I would have reverted in the past and asked the user to provide a better source and then move it down in the article under early life/family background whatever. I would really like to continue being an editor on this project and do not want to run into any trouble with any of my edits. Thanks.--Tom 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for mediation: Religious significance of Jerusalem

User:Alithien suggested you may do a better job mediating.

Please help mediate on this page. We require your assistance. My argument is that user is adding much one-sided information and too much text to evoke emotions. Other material has almost nothing to do with the actual subject at hand. I am trying to maintain a fair and factual article. Your help is greatly appreciated. I would just like you to see my comments and arguments to his reasons . Also, please take a look at my version in comparison with his (as protected by Husond) . He has added redundant info. He gave the rest of the quotation, unneeded but okay. The problem is that the second one is accompanied by the original text in Arabic. The Arabic text we have does not continue with the rest of the sentence, that is why his longer translation is not needed, especially not twice. He has also added POV. He uses his own sources while oblivious to others. That is why I try to leave it balanced, with all views represented.

As for the "Controversial claim" section, I am going to propose it be combined with the similar article section Al-Aqsa Mosque#Location of the “farthest mosque” and possibly have its own page. If you have any suggestions or objections for me, I am glad to hear. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shamir1 (talk • contribs)

Question

Hi Jayjg. Nearly Headless Nick posted some stats about the creation of AN and AN/I, and I noticed that they say you started AN/I a while before AN. Just out of curiosity, how did that happen? I certainly would've expected subpages to come after their parent page. Or is it just a mistake in the stats? Picaroon 00:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Block of Gnetwerker

Hello. Just reviewing an unblock request by User:Gnetwerker, I was wondering which page was the attack page referred to in your block summary?

I assume it has been deleted, which makes it hard for me to track down. HighInBC 18:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Kidman edit

That's the kind of stuff I'd immediately revert; that wasn't the kind of stuff you were removing, though. Jayjg 01:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it was. You should really go back and take a better look. You were 110% wrong about myself and my comments about the Shipman article and it would big of you to admitt so. This is what I objected to and and tried to say so here. You are involved with so many POV warriors that I got swept up into that net, imho. Anyways,--Tom 02:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

If I've misjudged you then I apologize. Jayjg 04:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jay, I really appreciate that. Like I said, I see you battling people who want to insert their POV into many articles you edit. If somebody wasn't doing it, these articles would be trashed, imho. Anyways, I want to be a help to this project and not a detractor so any advice or comment is always welcome. Have a great New Years and 2007! --Tom 14:06, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for administrative help

Jayjg, I've encountered you on a number of pages and been impressed with your mediative skills and willingness to help. Would you please take a look at the recent disputes on Pioneer Courthouse Square and its talk page, which involve me (and one or two others) versus an IP address in a NPOV debate? If you can't, could you please direct me to somewhere I can request some sort of formal or informal mediation of this dispute? The relevant help pages seem to be tangles of indecipherable and sometimes contradictory information. Thank you. --Makaristos 06:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your intervention. Would you please sprotect the page? Thank you. --Makaristos 07:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Jay, I'm at my wits' end. I have no idea how to get through to this guy, and I don't know what to do. The help pages about content and NPOV disputes are incomprehensible. Please, please tell me where I can get help or what I can do. Thank you. --Makaristos

The editor that you blocked indefinitely has returned under a sockpuppet account, adding the same non-encyclopedic tripe to the Pioneer Courthouse Square article. --Walor 15:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Seraphimblade's RfA

Thank you for your suggestions in my recent RfA, which failed. Any further advice you could offer would be much appreciated! Seraphimblade 15:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Peer review

Ebionites article passed GA. We are having a 2nd round of peer review to get it ready for FA nomination. Your perspective on changes needed to make it FA quality would be appreciated. Ovadyah 16:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

BOT - Regarding your recent protection of David Irving:

You recently protected this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 19:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Also: WP:AN/I#Misuse of admin powers by Jayjg. Khoikhoi 21:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Since you seem to protect a lot of pages from socks, note that you can have pages watched for edits particularly by shared IPs, hosting (ports open) IPs, and "suspicious" new users here. Pages tagged with sprotect-banned-user are already watched. Voice-of-All 22:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you deal with this?

This sounds rather serious. Would you be able to take a look at it and decide what needs doing? I've posted to the talk pages of some of the arbitrators and one of the clerks as well, but not any further. Thanks. Carcharoth 23:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Technajunky

Thanks for the heads-up. BTW, I have a possible solution to Kgeza67. Check your email... Khoikhoi 20:08, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Edit warring at Chabad-Lubavitch and...

Hi Jayjg, would you be able to take a look at Chabad-Lubavitch, Menachem Mendel Shneerson and Yechi, Theres a relativly new editor TrachtGut (talk · contribs) who's been making some major edits and deletions to these articles. He has been asked a number of times by numerous editor to use the talk pages before changing the articles. But he keeps on reverting back to his own version. This is causing an edit war. would you be able to take a look? Things look a bit calm for the moment, but perhaps you can keep your eyes on the watch and weigh in when needed? thanks allot for your help. Shlomke 20:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

It seems OK right now. The edits are being discussed on talk. Thanks. Shlomke 03:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Fighting Sockpuppetry

Thanks for taking the time to help bust User:Kgeza67 as sockpuppet. You deserve a barnstar or something for your tireless efforts.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 22:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Technajunky

Hi, Jayjg. I've been having trouble with User:68.5.96.201 too, and I see that you've left a block notice on this editor's page. But I look at the block log and I don't see anything. I'm confused. What's up? — coelacan talk — 01:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't know that blocking an account applied automatically to the IP as well. Thanks for the info. — coelacan talk — 01:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Table Fellowship

I'm searching for a single word in Hebrew that describes the table-fellowship Ebionites practiced that kept them separated from Gentiles. The closest I have come so far is Kashrut#Maintenance_of_a_separate_culture, but Kashrut puts more emphasis on the food than the fellowship. The Greek word koinonia comes close, but doesn't specifically refer to fellowship at table. Any thoughts? Ovadyah 00:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Blind reverts

I misread the diff. My mistake. Please accept my sincere apologies. Abu ali 09:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

checkuser

Hi, can you add such detail as is appropriate to Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oleh Petriv Bucketsofg 04:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Allegations of Israeli Apartheid

I've reverted your (3rd?) addition of the argument that Jews and Arabs are not separate races. While well-sourced, it does not counter a positive argument.

My previous edit summary pointed to the article's talk page, where I've left a similar comment. Please respond (if nec'y) there. I've only come here since you must have missed the edit summary. Jd2718 04:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I wish you had put the 3RR stuff on my user page, and not a public talk page. I ask you to move it, or remove it. In the meantime, I've reported the violation here Jd2718 05:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC) Thank you. I appreciate that you removed it. Jd2718 23:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

It is clear you are a strange editor

You have again removed the Israel section because it has in but there is no sources on Malay and yet you have re entered it. how many rules are you contradicting? Which rule is it, citation needed or citation not needed?--HalaTruth(ሀላካሕ) 16:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

U and Israel

You will find it better to add Israel, I have no agenda other than balance i am sure in all your sense you can understand what i am saying. The fact that NOthing is mentioned about Israel is extreamly wrong, have you seen the news for the last 50 yrs? and i am sure you know this. I would like you to then add something or stop removing what i add because of an unbelivable threshold. the entire site we are edit is rubbbish, no sources and a mess, so why pick one thing to be so sensitive about? Please if you show balance you will find i will not push these points. I have allowed critism of my own country, race and history y cant u?--HalaTruth(ሀላካሕ) 16:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi there

Hi JayG (and everyone). i am very impressed by your talk page. However, i'm kind of new here. Sorry to bother you with this, but could you (or anyone else) please tell me what some of these controversial Israel-related articles which everyone is dicussing are? I would like to help represent the pro-Israel concerns (with fairness, of course), but I'm not sure which articles are these points of contention. The few articles which I've looked at are historical, and don't seem to get much attention. Sorry to bother you with this basic question. Appreciate your help. Thanks. --Sm8900 23:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I just realized I can look at people's "contribs" list to find out what they've ben looking at. However, if anyone would like to provide just a fw tips to point me the right way, it would be much appreciated. thanks for your help. --Sm8900 23:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jayjg. Thanks for the reply. Like I said, I am impressed with your overall approach. If you want, feel free to look at some of my work at History of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (much text after 1987) and Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (much of section on major issues between two sides). Look forward to talking more sometime. thanks for your help. see you. --Sm8900 20:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

You are not following

Jayjg, may I ask you not to remove tags from the articles in which you are not involved. You apparently haven't ever seen the talk page recently. Here we do have other sources but even without that your approach in removal of the tags is not at least universally accepted --Aminz 00:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The article was extensively re-written, the tags are for current issues, and the reasons for adding them must be both credible and listed specifically on the Talk: page. You had not added any new comments in days, certainly not since the extensive re-write, and for weeks now you have been disruptively tagging articles which are factually correct and NPOV, but whose contents you simply dislike. You didn't even give a reason in the edit summary. I don't know what the content of that article is, nor do I need to; I can tell a pattern of tag abuse when I see it. My actions were administrative, not editorial. Jayjg 00:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

As I said before, there is much discussion on the talk page (e.g. ). Do you expect an edit warring for the tag to remain? For the editors involved the disputes are clear. The Proabivouac's removal of the tag was nothing more than his support of the current version of the article. --Aminz 00:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Juan Cole

Thanks for pointing that out. Sloppy reading on my part - I thought Cole's point was entirely gone. I will revert myself. Jd2718 18:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

3RR

You are right; I was following a version of 3RR that was in my head, rather than the one that is written down. I apologise. I have reverted myself back to an earlier version. Catchpole 20:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Homey is back

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/70.48.71.15 Zeq 08:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

mediation

well, you were supposed to mediate this article but maybe you can start with preventing the OR in it ?

Talk:Palestinian_exodus#The_so-called_.22Suba_Ruins.22 . Thanks. Zeq 10:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Mala Zimetbaum

Hi Jay: How notable is this person Mala Zimetbaum, and does she deserve an article of her own? There were millions of Holocaust so should they all get their own articles now? Doesn't that trivialize the event? Seems that if someone gets to write a book or gets mentioned somewhere, they then "automatically" become notable. What do you think? IZAK 16:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Jay and IZAK:

The entry, on casual read, does seem to lack a demonstration of the significance of this individual, who deserves a more encyclopedic rewrite with better sourcing. A bit of Googling comes up with some useful information on her. In particular, the two articles about her at the Ideas Journal are worthwhile ( and ); the second one (including companion photographs) is by the German author of 1995's Mala, A Life and Love in Auschwitz (ISBN 3-924444-89-7). A new biography in French by Gérard Huber was published in April of this year (see: .)

In particular, the testimony about Mala (given by Raya Kagan) during the Adolph Eichmann trial, available at the Nizkor Project, seems to indicate her "legendary" status and international renown.

Further indications of notability:

• The Simon Wiesenthal Center lists her as the "first woman to escape from Auschwitz"
• Greek musical written about her
• A British play about her and Edek performed earlier this year
• The Auschwitz Museum has her among only a handful of biographies for its 60th Commemoration.
• The B'Nai Brith Lodge of Antwerp is named for her.

Hope that helps establish whether she's worthwhile as an article subject. --Leflyman 01:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year

May the new year bring you peace, happiness, love, and hope for all things you wish for. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attack and Editors doing an dis-service to Wiki

Personal attacks should not be tolerated, but the should have to occur before you get a warning. You have people become wikizealots or wikinazis. I used the term wikinazi and asshole in a conversation with another user. The terms were not directed at that user or anyone, just a generic 3rd person. They were also on a users talk page. Please check my records as a wiki contributor, you will see I do not vandilize. Gwernol gave me a warning for personal attacks when none occured. He had to read a communication between two other users to find it, and then did not comprehend what he read. There must me some leaway between users to speak their opinion, with fear of an uninvolved 3rd party butting in. If someone has a complaint, then they have a right to get involved but not before. That being said, I would like your opinion, and you can give your honest opinion, I like a straight shooter.

Also, on the idea of Wikinazis, and wikizealots. I honestly believe this is becoming a problem and damaging wiki. There is a lack of fairness that is occuring regularly, and bad judgement calls by editors. This damages wiki, people don't want to donate to a cause that does not treat people fairly. Red links for one in a story, these are not all bad. The encourage readers to contribute. Many times when I edit an article I put real words or names in a link, then I go back in fill it in after I finish working on the main article. Also other people read it an know about real words or names, and they click and write the article. Originally there was a Template:West Virginia State Highways it was listed as tfd and it failed to be deleted because a group of West Virginians fought for it. It stayed, then as soon as it was finished we moved on somebody nominated it again, and since it was finshed none of us saw it, now it is replaced with the Category:West Virginia State Highways. I'm sure somebody said "per norm." Problem is per norm doesn't always exist. We have a group of WVer's that know our state better than somebody in California, yet we constantly try to get pidgeon holed when our state works differently. If you correct the bad information, even sighting example. Somebody always comes in and changes it back. Then the people that know best, get warned don't revert it back. WTF? So guy in the UK is editing something in our back yard and gets the priority of being right. It should revert to the last edit, not the new bad information that was posted. Many of these editors do not know how to be objective, nor do they care too.

Somehow wiki needs to police the police. Like Gwernol when no complaint exist, he creates one to feel powerful? Some of these editors get off on creating contriversey where none exist. This doesn't help wiki, it just angers those that try to actually help. I just noticed User talk:Francs2000 left and it appears he got tired of the BS. Wiki can't afford to loose people just because you end up with a few bad editors and users (users in Francs2000's case). Somebody has to use common sense. Thanks for your time. --71Demon 22:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler's contacts with Jewish people

Hi Jay: Have you ever had a close look at this strange article: Adolf Hitler's contacts with Jewish people? It's full of red links for the supposed Jews he had contact with (do they deserve articles just because they were Hitler's alleged dentist/shoe-shine-boy/chimney-sweep/whatnots etc?) It's weirdly prurient. The heading stinks. Do all the Jews killed in the Holocaust get to be in it? How about all the theories about Hitler having a Jewish ancestor, does that also count as him having "contact" with Jewish people? I doubt that the originators of this article and those who worked on it have rational objectives. It should be merged with something else involving Adolf Hitler or even deleted for its stupidity. (If not, how about Adolf Hitler's contacts with gypsies, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Italian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Russian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with retarded people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with murderers this can go on forever, and then we can even create Category:Adolf Hitler's contacts with people. IZAK 02:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Renaming Zionism and racism

Hi Jay: Shouldn't the Zionism and racism article be renamed to Allegations of Zionism and racism as with Allegations of Israeli apartheid? What are your thoughts? IZAK 02:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year, Jay. Best wishes for a great year! El_C 04:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Maimonides

Hi Jay: Ever heard of this? See List of Muslim converts#Religious figures: "Maimonides - Jewish philosopher, theologian, and physician forced to convert to Islam under pain of death during the Cordoba massacre of 1148. Reverted to Judaism when his life was no longer under threat.<ref>Lewis (1984), p. 100</ref>" I don't see which book by "Lewis" is even cited here, and does "Lewis" even say that? (I assume this refers to the Arabist Bernard Lewis.) I had once heard that the Rambam did issue a heter for this kind of procedure (it must be written somewhere) but I had never heard that it had also happened to himself personally. I read an article in the English Yated a couple of years ago that the Mashhadi Jews in Iran relied on such a ruling from the Rambam, and that it was controversial, yet acceptable according to Halachah. Can you help with verifying this, especially if it happened to the Rambam? Thanks. IZAK 18:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Hebrew

Can you help in translting 3 words from Hebrew ? משטרת הישובים העבריים

see http://he.wikipedia.org/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D

Tnx. Zeq 19:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Please check a dictionary

for Yishuv. It is comunity. see morfix.co.il

Settlement is התנחלות

Zeq 19:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeshuv kehilati (in current Hebrew) is exactly what Yeshuv was in the 1920/30: A group of people who know each other and share / have in common more than just the same address: I.e. a community.

On the other hand Hitnahalout (settlement) is today such an overloaded term that the use of it where it is not in a settlment (across the green-line) is totaly misleading to any average reader. Zeq 20:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeshuv Khilati = Community with bylaws governing who can join that community. Zeq 20:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeshuv is Kehila and Khilati is "by the community" and refer to the fact that Yeshuv Khilati (in oppose to yeshuv lo Khilati) there are those by-laws that govern who can join. Yet Yeshuv Khilati is not a Kibuz or a Moshav.

Kibuz is also calld "Yeshuv Kibutzi" (a co-opertive comunity), A town is also called "yeshuv Ironi" (an Urban comunity). An garicultural comunity is "Yeshuv Haklai". all together Yeshuv is comunity in many diffreent uses in the Hebrew languge and you still did not address the simple issue that settlement is Hintahalout - a word with very specific meaning that refers to the green-line (which did not even sxited prior to 1949) Zeq 20:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

No. There is a translation it is comunity. Translations is not based on rules which can be transfered from one lang to another. If you take a root which can become both a verb and a noun it can become a totaly diffrenet words when translated. example: Yeshuv = Community , Yeshiva = "a yeshiva" or " a meeting" or the act of sitting down. In the same way Kehila is comunity and Khilaty is "by the comunity". the sufix "י" in many case in Hebrew creates somthing that takes more than one word in english to translate. sometimes it mans the superlative (of the same root without the "י". Please explain where in "משטרת הישובים העבריים You have found the green-line and settlments ? Zeq 21:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Are we now going o adopt views of the Israeli govrement as guidelines for Misplaced Pages ? the world settlment has a specific meaning in the world and it has to do with the green-line and the occupaied Palstinian territories - do you deny that ? Zeq 21:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year Jay. I made a New Year's resolution to be less of a shrew, if you can believe that. Off to a bad start it seems. --G-Dett 20:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Bottom line

Jay,

I fail to see what Yeshuv Khilaty has to do with משטרת הישוביים העבריים

can we go back to trnalting it correctly.

see this http://en.wikipedia.org/Israeli_settlements http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Jewish_Settlement&redirect=no

"settlements are communities built by Israelis in territory captured in the 1967 Six-Day War. "

clearly the משטרת הישוביים העבריים is before 1967. Zeq 21:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/526/808.html

So what about them התנחלויות from before 67 ? Zeq 13:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Holohackers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:The_Holocaust&diff=97736646&oldid=97732048 and http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:The_Holocaust&diff=prev&oldid=97706933 Gzuckier 22:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Removing Maimonides from the list

See my responses at Talk:List of Muslim converts#Removing Maimonides from the list. Thanks, IZAK 04:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Ramsquire wrote me on my talk page to suggest I might have a reportable incident against you regarding your deletion of my comments on your page. I will not report this, but will simply ask that you please show greater respect for my and others' attempts to discuss these issues with you. There is a great deal wrong with the JfJ page, as I believe you must know. It should not be a mystery why I and several others keep objecting to the language on the page. I do not mean this as an insult, but simply as a request that we discuss these matters in good faith, as I believe we are capable.Mackan79 22:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Editors are free to remove harassment from their User talk: pages; if you don't want me to remove your posts here, then don't post harassing messages. Feel free to take it to WP:AN/I if you wish; I strongly doubt the outcome will be what you and Ramsquire imagine. Jayjg 23:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

My statement wasn't harassment, but I already said I wasn't reporting it. I simply thought you should know I'm not the only person who finds your style objectionable. I think if you consider the difference between the way you deal with me and the way you deal with someone you consider an ally, you will see why I don't find your manner civil, and why I have appealed here for you to be so. In any case, I think we'd all appreciate your response on whether you'd agree to mediation. It doesn't look like the problems are going away. Would you agree to this? Thanks, Mackan79 01:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I clearly felt it was harassment; and if someone feels that comments on their user page are harassment, then posting them a second time after they were removed would quite obviously be harassment. I generally respond more positively to edits I consider to be high quality, or Talk: page comments I consider to be well reasoned. Regarding mediation, I'd already responded before you posted here. Jayjg 03:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/CantStandYa

Is it  Confirmed that CantStandYa = Shran = Listed accounts, or simply CantStandYa = Listed accounts? I'm guessing the latter, but just wanted to make sure given the link provided to LTA. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 23:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Saw your note. Thanks for that. Daniel.Bryant 01:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Mediation request notification

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Just a reminder, we've got 6/7. Thanks, Mackan79 15:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Anti-Zionism

Hi Jayjg, In your comments posted here you indicated that you have "discovered the original Talk: page on which you started going off about this". I find your remarks to be slightly insensitive, as I do not feel that I "go off" about anything. I do raise concerns which are legitimate and try to work with other involved editors to resolve the situation amicably. If you would like to reply, I will monitor your talk page. Thank you. --Uncle Bungle 05:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your consideration

Thank you for the consideration you gave to my RfA. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. You were one of the oppose votes, and raised concerns. I am more than willing to discuss those concerns with you if you are interested. Please let me know. Sincerely, --BostonMA 12:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Funny Swastika

Hi Jay: Take a look at these templates:

• {{Hindu Links}} (top left)
• {{Hinduism small}} (bottom)
• {{HinduFestivals}} (top right)
• {{Hindu Deities and Texts}} (top right)
• {{User WikiProject Hindu mythology}} (left)

with the displayed prominently. Honestly, of all of Hinduism's symbols' did this one have to get "headline" billing on these templates? Alternatives are aplenty if one were to look around on articles listed on {{Hindu Deities and Texts}} where there are dozens of less offensive symbols that could be chosen for the same purpose. While the swastika may be ok with some Hindus, it should not be flashed around "in all innocence" because for the rest of the world that was caught up in World War II it was the symbol of literal EVIL, DEATH and DESTRUCTION emanating from the Nazis. It was Hitler's personal diabolical "symbol of choice" and for that reason it is VERY far from neutral, no matter in what context it is used. It violates Misplaced Pages:Civility to have it displayed in such an "in your face" fashion on these Hindu templates, giving it a dubious "place of pride" it does not deserve. Need one say more? IZAK 22:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I would echo the concern that the prevalence of the swastika on Hinduism-related templates does not exactly reflect the prevalence of the symbol in Hindu culture in general. It seems 'odd' and unencyclopedic to use it so ubiquitously. In the interests of both encyclopedic accuracy and sensitivity to our users, I recommend we use the symbol 'Aum', which is far more prevalent:

-- User:RyanFreisling @ 23:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Note: i have replaced the swastika with the Aum on three of the above six templates, for the above reason. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Note: User:DaGizza has reverted all my replacements. I would like to avoid a revert war, so I've asked him to undo his reverts and discuss it out. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Another note: User:DaGizza stated that red is more auspicious of a color than black to Hindus, so I have created a variant of aum.svg in the exact red of the Hindu swastika image:

Discussion of this issue is happening here, at Talk:WikiProject_Hinduism. Thanks. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 01:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ryan - I have a totally unrelated question about this symbol. I took a class in Sanskrit and we learned Devanagari; I don't remember much of it but I remember being struck by the fact that this symbol is actually "oom" and that the symbol for "aum" would be a bit different (two verticle lines after the part that looks like a "3"). Do you know of any explanation of that, given that this symbol is so prominent? csloat 01:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Not personally, I'd only be speculating. But I'll do some research and see if I can find an authoritative source that discusses the dichotomy. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 01:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The correct glyph for Devanagari OM is: ॐ , and as far as the Aum article, Aum, om, ohm, is all one and the same. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• Hi: NOTE: Talk about this is now centralized at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Hinduism#Use of Swastika. Thanks. IZAK 02:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The dancing-Israeli-art-student-conspiracy troll

Thanks for taking care of her. I just gave up, and was pretty damned certain that that `tangerine' was a sock-puppet, but didn't want to make any wild accusations lest I draw further wrath upon myself. Power to your elbows. Rosenkreuz 15:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

continuing harassment

Jay, the negative comment solicitation by User:Abu ali, which you had described on WP/ANI as harassment, has an interesting twist: Abu Ali also posted the same comment solicitation on the Talk page of an article I had been editing - Talk:Oliver Kamm. As this is clearly inappropriate material for an article's Talk page, I removed it. Now, one of the editors there is continuing the harassment by re-inserting the solicitation over and over into the Talk page. I was hoping some explanation from an experienced admin about why that action is harassment as well might help him stop his actions. Isarig 16:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. It appears to have stopped, for now. Isarig 03:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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Religious significance of Jerusalem

Can we resume mediating? Thanks. --Shamir1 01:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba arbcom case 2: banning of Andries for one year

I was very surprized that Fred Bauder (talk · contribs) supported UninvitedCompany (talk · contribs)'s motion to have me banned from the Sathya Sai Baba related articles for one year. I thought that I had received a complete amnesty for my possibly bad edits in Sathya Sai Baba and related articles in the first arbitration case. Banned for what? I would be surprized if anybody can find just one single edit that seriously violated Misplaced Pages policies after the first arbitration case. And I would very surprized if somebody was able to find that I repeatedly seriously violated Misplaced Pages policies after the first abritration case. Andries 01:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

More Panarjedde socks

User:DisposableAccount2. He made an edit to Diocletian, and the provocative user name prompted me to investigate further. I see you previously blocked #1. Dppowell 19:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Lancet surveys of mortality before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq

hello Jayjg. i came across the page Lancet surveys of mortality before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq recently and noticed that it looked rather POV to me. evidently user Timeshifter has been strongly POV-pushing. a fair chunk of this consists of inserting large amounts of direct quotes from the Lancet surveys themselves or from articles that the Lancet people wrote to justify their extremely high death figures. this allows him to say that all his material is sourced and restore any deletions using the justification "do not delete sourced material", but in practice it projects a strong POV since the material overwhelms any attempt to construct an objective article. i tried to delete a particularly obvious case of this, but it was immediately reverted. Timeshifter shows a willingness to wikilawyer and has a whole lot more energy than me to devote to this. i'm wondering if you'd be interested in looking at this; i'm not sure if your interest runs in this area but it would help to have someone who is willing to take him on. this request to you was motivated by a request to me from another user on my talk page to help npov the article in question and combat Timeshifter, which i don't feel i have the ability to do. Benwing 00:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

see my response to your comments on my talk page. i don't know the proper protocol for these discussions; whose page does it take place on, or does it ping-pong back and forth? Benwing 03:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

RfM/Jews for Jesus 2

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If you have any questions about my contributions, personal mediation style or otherwise, please contact me at my talk page, or email me at anthony (dot) cfc (at) gmail (dot) com - all email communication is private unless stated otherwise.

Cheers and regards,
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Good evening (GMT time); I appreciate that WP:NEHAMFTAU, but I must inform you that you are currently holding up the mediation committee case about Jews for Jesus. I hope everything is okay! Regards, Anthonycfc 17:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)