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- dispute over notability of J. Faucounau's reading
Golden Ring from Mavro Spelio
Just for your information, Mr Bachmann, may I call your attention upon the "Annexe n° 3" of the J.Faucounau's book Les Origines grecques à l'Age de Bronze ? It is a very short, accessory study of the said inscription, considered by J.F. as the only known document in Linear A, which could be written in Proto-Ionian Greek. A translation has even been given, but considered by the author as nothing but an interesting possibility (personal discussion with J.F. about one year ago). J.F. has emphasized in another article (unpublished but that he was kind enough to give me a copy of) that Linear A has been used to write several languages (including Semitic). But, of course, you will consider all this as amateur's dreaming , I guess... You are so well informed by one of your compatriots, Mr Bachmann !.. (User 80.90.57.154 , 17:12, March 26, 2006).
"Inscription Text" Section - Unicode?
Is there a reason that this section does not use the {{Unicode}}
template? The net effect of that template is to add <span class="Unicode">...</span>
tags around the text. That would thus enable the use of personal CSS stylesheets, as discussed on the documentation page for {{Unicode}}
. Below is a sample of how I would propose to code this section:
¦ 𐇑𐇛𐇜𐇐𐇡𐇽 | 𐇧𐇷𐇛 | 𐇬𐇼𐇖𐇽 | 𐇬𐇬𐇱 | 𐇑𐇛𐇓𐇷𐇰 | 𐇪𐇼𐇖𐇛 | 𐇪𐇻𐇗 | 𐇑𐇛𐇕𐇡 | 𐇮𐇩𐇲 | 𐇑𐇛𐇸𐇢𐇲 | 𐇐𐇸𐇷𐇖 | 𐇑𐇛𐇯𐇦𐇵𐇽 | 𐇶𐇚 | 𐇑𐇪𐇨𐇙𐇦𐇡 | 𐇫𐇐𐇽 | 𐇑𐇛𐇮𐇩𐇽 | 𐇑𐇛𐇪𐇪𐇲𐇴𐇤 | 𐇰𐇦 | 𐇑𐇛𐇮𐇩𐇽 | 𐇑𐇪𐇨𐇙𐇦𐇡 | 𐇫𐇐𐇽 | 𐇑𐇛𐇮𐇩𐇽 | 𐇑𐇛𐇪𐇝𐇯𐇡𐇪 | 𐇕𐇡𐇠𐇢 | 𐇮𐇩𐇛 | 𐇑𐇛𐇜𐇐 | 𐇦𐇢𐇲𐇽 | 𐇙𐇒𐇵 | 𐇑𐇛𐇪𐇪𐇲𐇴𐇤 | 𐇜𐇐 | 𐇙𐇒𐇵|
—Grollτech (talk) 00:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- I couldn't read any of that.Myrvin (talk) 18:16, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I looked at what I could find on this page and elsewhere in Misplaced Pages and tried to do what I thought would show the Unicode characters, but they are still not showing. I downloaded and installed the Noto Sans Symbols and Everson Mono fonts, but that didn't work. Isn't there any way to EASILY tell people what they need to do to show the characters instead of the "unknown character" characters??? Maybe I missed it, but I've had this problem MANY times. WHY even have these characters here like this if they are not going to show for "99% of the population"? --WillBo (talk) 09:04, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Flipped
The articles on both the disc and the associated axe list horizontally flipped images of the disc symbols. The 'pedestrians' and the 'heads' are depicted facing left while on the disc they face right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.169.42.228 (talk) 09:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- The images are flipped on purpose, explained in the main text. Search for "with the glyphs mirrored compared to their orientation on the disc". Arie ten Cate (talk) 17:50, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
river nile and phaistos disc
If you follow the chevrons on the disc they may coincide with the level of water in the river Nile ( spirals symbolizing whirlpools and one spiral being rising water and the other spiral falling water). The bow and arrow ( is arrow a lily?) word may correspond with the only other two symbol word on the disc at the disc centre -the helmet and water wave.The 2 symbol words would correspond to December 21st when the Nile starts to falls reaching its lowest level in june. It rises from june to December.
Reference Style?
Some of the references in the article as of my writing (July 26, 2018) are in wiki style, others are in scholarly paper style, e. g. "Godart (1995:101)". In terms of Misplaced Pages style, would it be valuable for someone (me) to go through the article and convert the non-wiki references into the local format? IAmNitpicking (talk) 11:05, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2018
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- "Phaistos Disk. Passing" (PDF). D.Artifex. 109.252.83.140 (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
/* In Popular Culture */
The Phaistos Disk was the subject of the thriller "The Pharoah Key" by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child, 2018. 2601:204:D500:2836:B032:3CC2:A082:1B42 (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Why is this still semi-protected?
This was semi-protected more than a decade ago, is it still necessary to have it be semi-protected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophia wisdom (talk • contribs) 02:16, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
- Of course not, but this is now an established fiefdom, as is par for the course on Misplaced Pages, and I suspect the power and control won't be easily relinquished. 139.138.6.121 (talk) 02:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2020
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24 Alexq181 (talk) 00:20, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- It's not clear what edit you want made. You can suggest edits here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y" citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 00:24, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Why has there still be no proper dating attempted?
I do tend to side with Eisenberg that this object is probably a fraud. Too many times object have been forged and especially when object are "one of a kind" one has to be very sceptical if not found in a clear archaeological providence. Many people seem to think "not guilty until proven guilty" is the normal approach, but in these cases the scientific approach should be "guilty until proven not guilty". See also the recent events of finds like the "Jezus-sarcophagus" and the "Wife of Jezus-papyrus". Time and time again scientist have been easily fooled by frauds.
So I find it very strange that when there is a good way of dating the object by thermoluminescence without destroying it, the Greek archaeology department does not use this method to end the discussion once and for all. Are they afraid of what they expect to find when taken it to the test? Surely (lack of) money can not the reason, as there are many excellent laboratories who would love to do this research for free (who would not want to take the chance of studying this object).
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