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Multiple issues?

The article is tagged as to have multiple issues, but there is no discussion about it here on the talk page. I think someone who tags an article like that ought to start the discussion about it too. Anyway, let's work to make it better. Bandy långe (talk) 17:36, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Bandy and covid-19

Like many other sports, bandy is a sport where the regular play and tournaments have been severely effected by the COVID-19 pandemic. The 2020 Bandy World Championship, meant to be played in Irkutsk in Russia, was postponed and now it might not be played at all, because Finland, Norway and Sweden have all declared that they won't come to play because of the risk of being infected. I don't know if the Russians will find it worthwhile to play the tournament, when all the other main contestants have said they won't show up. It's sad, but this is how it is in sports not as big as association football or the Olympic Games, where huge tournamenst like Euro 2020 and the 2020 Summer Olympics still have been arranged this summer. Eventually, some information about the situation and how it plays out should be added to this article. Bandy långe (talk) 21:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

The statue in Earith

There is obviously a statue of a bandy player in Earith, England. The source for this was just an URL for an image, , which is not a very good source. I tried to find a better one and found the same image at Pinterest. This is a slightly better source, but still not really good enough. I’ll try to look some more. A news article or some tourist information site would be better as a source. Bandy långe (talk) 19:55, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I found a better source now, The Hunts Post. It seems to be a pretty reliable source, even if it describes the history of bandy somewhat wrong. It was probably not thoroughly proof read... Bandy långe (talk) 20:26, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

– Shall I add, that I really would like it if someone else took their time to perhaps check this too? The statue is there, there are enough sources showing it, but is this particular source which I added here good enough for Winipedia? Bandy långe (talk) 07:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Sources which are translated

It is pretty good to refer to sources in other languages by refering to them through Google Translate, but the source shall not just be stated as "Google Translate". It should be stated as the source it is originally, with name, date of publishing etc. I just fixed this for one source previously given like that. Bandy långe (talk) 04:33, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

....and another one. There are quite a few sources given in this article which are good, but not presented in a good way. I'll do my best to amend this. Bandy långe (talk) 07:39, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

I seem to have come here in a time period when not many other people are working with this particular subject, that is the article on bandy, as I get no respnse on what I write in my posts here. That is hardly a problem, I can work on making the article better myself, without exchanging ideas and opinions with someone else on the matter. It would be more interesting to work on it together with others, but what I am doing at the moment is more or less just bettering texts, or rather just references, which othere people have already put into the text sometime before. This is something anyone could do on his own; no discussions really needed on how to phrase things in the text.

It is however a bit saddening finding out, that a reference source which probably was a good one when it was added to the text in the article, is now a dead link and as it is dead I cannot do anything much to better the refering note which accompany the text. When the link is dead, I cannot find the missing headline of a news article or the date this news article was originally published. These facts are information which should have been added to the note when the reference was originally added in the text of our article.

However, at a whole, I think this article actually is a good article, describing bandy in a way which should be able to give an understanding of the sport even to readers not previously familiar with the subject and at the same time not so simple in its approach as to make the ordinary bandy fan thinking it's just nothing here that I don't already know. Bandy långe (talk) 11:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Multiple issues of this article

One of the issues is now taken care of, at least as much as I have been able to do it. That was the issue of bad reference link descriptions. I have cleaned it up and therefor I removed that issue from the template on top of the page.

Now there is only one of the issues left. Should the multiple issues template be replaced by some one issue template? Bandy långe (talk) 05:33, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Well, it seems Cewbot took care of this for us. Thank you. Bandy långe (talk) 10:40, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Formation (bandy) for deletion

The following was just posted at my personal talk page. Maybe others are interested in giving their views on the subject too.

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Bandy långe (talk) 16:04, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Content size splits

Procedurally starting this discussion. Does the article need to be split for size, keeping in mind possible expansion? An option would be creating either Rules of bandy or a Glossary of bandy terms. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 17:47, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. This could be a good idea, since many parts of the article could be expanded as it is, while the article is pretty long already as it is. A glossary of bandy terms would be much appreciated, I think – it could include information about what terms are used in different languages if these are significantly different, and also comparisons to the use of similar terms in other sports. Bandy rules would also merit its own article, where there could be more room to write about historical development of the rules of the game. Apart from your suggestions, I could imagine and would suggest that there was some other articles added too, with information moved there from this article. I'd like to have an article on History of bandy (where there could be more room to write about the origin of the sport and the split of it from what would become ice hockey, as I understand these sports where originally somewhat of variants of the same sport). I also think there could be room for adding more articles about bandy played in different countries, at least the countries where bandy is most popular, which would be the Russian Federation, Sweden, Finland, Kazakhstan, and perhaps Norway, perhaps other countries too if there is enough good sources to write about it, like probably the United Kingdom and the Netherlands. 92.32.242.138 (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

What's this "small group of ice skating sports"?

It says in the lead, that bandy "belongs to a small group of four ice skating team sports, irrespective of their associated variants, which now includes ice hockey, ringette, and rinkball."

What is this "group"? How is it organised or who defines it as a "group"?

I don't think this sentence is really clear. Are they a "group" just because they are all played on ice or is it something else which defines the group? There are other sports played on ice too, why are they not in this "group"? Please clarify.

95.199.138.45 (talk) 16:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

I removed the text about this alleged group now, just as has been done in the article on ice hockey. For discussion on the topic and why the "group" should not be mentioned (as it is what could be called original research), see talk:Ice hockey.

95.199.138.45 (talk) 15:00, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Removed again. Do not add it again without discussing first. We have talk pages for a reason.

While these sports mught share some characteristics, they are not more related to eachother than bandy is related to for instance field hockey or association football. They are not grouped together by sports writers or sports governing bodies. Simply put, they are not a group.

95.199.134.234 (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

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