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Diff (talk · contribs)
As a note, this discussion is basically an RFCN regarding a request for usurpation. All discussion should probably be centered at the talk page for CHU/U. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 05:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Saberscorpx (talk · contribs)
His name doesn't directly clash with any Wiki policies. But his sole contribution to Misplaced Pages has been to create and defend the article Saber's Beads which is a vanity neologism he created. He recreated it after a first AfD and I listed it for AfD a second time. I've also tried to get the image associated with the article deleted. Since then he's been spamming my talk page with minor edits to the comments he's made on it, causing me to get the new messages link, sometimes several times a day . I asked him to stop and his response was an odd accusation that I had deleted his comments. I have done no such thing. He's been at his game of adding nonsense to Misplaced Pages for months now as seen here. His user name isn't an advertisement for a commercial product (as much as I can tell) but given his obvious COI I think the time has come to do something about him (especially since he's annoyed me with a nonsense edit to my talk page for what I hope is the last time) Nardman1 00:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - Just get him blocked instead. That way we need not worry about his name. The Behnam 00:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I thought this board would be the best place to get him blocked...what he's doing isn't precisely vandalism. Nardman1 00:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I see what you mean . But how is his name inappropriate? Isn't he named Steven Saber? It is fine that he have his own name in his user name. I think you may have to go through the normal block procedures. Considering what he has been up to, it shouldn't be too difficult. The Behnam 01:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow - First of all, I certainly sympathize with your issues with him, but - this isn't a mechanism to fix that, I think the block method would be better. However, we have a policy that says Usernames that promote a company or website: Usernames of or closely resembling the names of companies, groups, or include the URL of a particular website are discouraged and may be blocked. Since his name includes the work "corp", I think it's deceptively similar to "Saber Corp." (which is a leading company in the travel industry, and makes the software that several major airlines (plus Travelocity) use) and inappropriately resembles the name of the company. I think Disallow on that basis, irrespective of any other issues you may or may not be having with him. Philippe Beaudette 01:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, I thought the scorpx could have referred to that constellation stuff; I didn't read all of it but the user appeared to be interested in astrology. The Behnam 03:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow. If his behavior is inappropriate, then address that in the appropriate venues. This is the place do address problematic user names, which does not appear to be the issue in this instance. ~CS 03:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow This would be best mentioned over at WP:AN, rather than here. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow or more WP:AN/I --w 07:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow; the only arguments for blovking are unrelated to the acceptability of the user name. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 11:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow as per Mel. -- Szvest - 13:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment; nardman is so consumed with jealousy and contempt (not just with me) that he makes a better troll than a WK rep. Saber's Beads is simply an astronomical phenomenon http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/nineplanets/nineplanets/help.html#S that I hoped WK might find of interest- while giving an appreciable boost to sliver hunting and Lunar observing in general. The comments on my username are not suprising (some even read the morbid 'saber's corpse' into it). However, there is no ulterior agenda here, either. I could recommend a change to 'SaberScorpX' for clarity; Saber (my last name), Scorp (short for Scorpius or Scorpio), and X (for extreme). But due to the entire unexpected Saber's Beads controversy and suspicion, I will refrain from further WK participation on this matter. -SaberScorpX
- There is not need to call nardman's motives into question. You are welcome to defend your name, but not by attacking the people discussing it. HighInBC 15:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow - I personally ese no violtion here. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:41, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow How would banning the name help Misplaced Pages? Unless this is a real company, then it is not advertising, if the user is misbehaving, that is unrelated to the name. HighInBC 15:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow Get him blocked for abuse; the username isn't an issue. Aelffin 15:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Withdrawing nomination and relisting at WP:ANI. Nardman1 16:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Meatfairy (talk · contribs)
Reported this one at WP:AIV but Viridae didn't think it was as obvious as I did. In my view it contravene's WP:U but I'm not as sure of my ground as I was. 'Meat' is slang for a penis and 'fairy' for a homosexual. I can't think of any inoccent explanations for the name. Only edit was to Elephant (yeah, it was Colbert-related vandalism). What do others think? WjBscribe 06:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow Doesn't sound remotely right to me. Unambiguous, really. Disallow and block.Proabivouac 06:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- More than likely, it is a throw away colbert vandalism account. Nuke it for that. The username is not obviously offensive though. pschemp | talk 06:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure where you live; it's pretty obvious from here.Proabivouac 07:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow It's offensive enough from what I can see, and I agree that it's not particularly ambiguous about it either.--Dycedarg ж 07:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow We shouldn't disallow a name simply due to a presumed gay connotation. - Gilliam 07:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, we certainly should. I can hardly think of any example where a reference to sexual proclivities or organs of generation might be appropriate.Proabivouac 07:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- WP:U states that "Usernames that refer to or imply sexual acts, genitalia, or sexual orientation including slang, innuendo, and double entendre" are potentially inflammatory or offensive, and thus inappropriate. I don't know what other possible connotations you think meatfairy could have, but from my end this is about as unambiguously offensive as they come.--Dycedarg ж 07:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, we certainly should. I can hardly think of any example where a reference to sexual proclivities or organs of generation might be appropriate.Proabivouac 07:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow - Yuck. By the way, possible innocent explanations don't matter, this is about the name. The Behnam 07:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment I think you've got it wrong. WP:AGF means we have to assume it's innocent unless there's a reason to suspect otherwise. AGF is like the Misplaced Pages version of "innocent until proven guilty". Aelffin 15:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow. I find this one obviously and deeply offensive. PeaceNT 07:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow and motion to close as per Dycedarg, and WP:U. --w 07:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Clearly none of you (except Gilliam) are going to find T-bone steaks or BBQ ribs under your pillows when you wake up! -- Ben 08:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Neutral. If we can say it is a reference to a penis, I'd be inclined to disallow -- but even when I push myself to try, I can't force myself to reach that as the sole possible conclusion. Perhaps I just run in the wrong circles, but at first glance this hardly even makes me blink; now that it's pointed out more directly, I hesitate, but I wouldn't personally block without more information. It probably speaks to my personal quirks. I seem to be in the minority, though, so. ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 08:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow - As an enthusiastic carnivore, I assumed it was an entity which delivers meat. —Dgies 08:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow If you do a google search for meat fairy you get loads of other meanings of the term. None correspond to penis or homosexuality RyanPostlethwaite 09:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is about possible offense, not possible innocence. Even if he had "good" or neutral reasons behind his name, this does not change the fact that some reasonable concerns have been brought up here. It is best that we take the 'anti-benefit' of the doubt, since the user name itself is of concern, not his reasons for choosing it. AGF is irrelevant to this kind of situation. The Behnam 09:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- To every other username here we try and assume good faith so I don't know whats different with this one. It can have many other uses than the sexually inflammatory one. Its not blatant, I didn't have a clue why it had been nominated until I read this thread RyanPostlethwaite 09:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I haven't applied this whole irrelevant "good faith user names are fine, even if the user name itself suggests something unacceptable" attitude. Unfortunately, it seems rather prevalent at this RFC. One of the reasons I contribute here is to make a futile attempt to counter this attitude. Obviously, I haven't succeeded most of the time. The Behnam 12:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- To every other username here we try and assume good faith so I don't know whats different with this one. It can have many other uses than the sexually inflammatory one. Its not blatant, I didn't have a clue why it had been nominated until I read this thread RyanPostlethwaite 09:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow To people familiar with the slang, the meaning is clear. If there are some people who won't draw that meaning, that's nice but it doesn't discount the fact that there are a significant number who will and would be offended. ShadowHalo 09:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow. What else would fairies be made of? (I've tried not to allow myself to be affected by some of the comments above that seem clearly to be homophobic.) --Mel Etitis (Talk) 11:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Re: "Usernames that refer to or imply sexual acts, genitalia, or sexual orientation". Your issue would seem to be with the policy itself, as currently even a User:GayMan would, by a straightforward reading, be disallowed.Proabivouac 11:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, and what is 'homophobic' about any of the above comments? Do you just mean disapproving of homosexual innuendos? Do you try to misconstrue "disapproval of homosexuality" as "fear of homosexuality"? Are you of that party? The Behnam 13:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- First, it's one thing to say "this goes afgainst the rules", quite another to say that it's offensive (to whom? Apparently it's "deeply offensive" to at least one person above), "yuck", the claim below that it's "threatening"?
Secondly, I'm someone who uses words according to their meanings, not their etymology. How do you use the words "terrific" and "terrible"? To mean the same?) --Mel Etitis (Talk) 15:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Re: "Usernames that refer to or imply sexual acts, genitalia, or sexual orientation". Your issue would seem to be with the policy itself, as currently even a User:GayMan would, by a straightforward reading, be disallowed.Proabivouac 11:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow - can't think of any innocent explanations? How about a fairy that deals in meat? Strong lol @ this name, I see no reason for offense. Milto LOL pia 13:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Innocent explanations don't matter. This isn't about generating far-fetched speculative ideas about how this could be innocent, but rather it is about tackling the possible not-innocence. It seems a number of users have found the negative meaning a reasonable possibility. The Behnam 13:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I was more referring to the... er... nominator's (?) assertion that he couldn't think of any innocent explanations. Besides, almost anything that has a concrete meaning (as opposed to real names or semi-nonsense words, like my username) can be made sexual if you try hard enough. Remember middle school? :-) Milto LOL pia 13:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I remember that sort of thing, but the issue here is that there isn't much trying involved. For this situation, the people who are "trying" are those creating various "innocent" versions. Seriously, a fairy who delivers meat? That and others like it are definitely more preposterous than the threatening slang version. The name lends itself more strongly to the bad meaning. The Behnam 13:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm... How is Meatfairy meaning Meat Fairy more perposterous than Meatfairy meaning Penis Gay? Aelffin 15:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I remember that sort of thing, but the issue here is that there isn't much trying involved. For this situation, the people who are "trying" are those creating various "innocent" versions. Seriously, a fairy who delivers meat? That and others like it are definitely more preposterous than the threatening slang version. The name lends itself more strongly to the bad meaning. The Behnam 13:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I was more referring to the... er... nominator's (?) assertion that he couldn't think of any innocent explanations. Besides, almost anything that has a concrete meaning (as opposed to real names or semi-nonsense words, like my username) can be made sexual if you try hard enough. Remember middle school? :-) Milto LOL pia 13:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow - come on! could be like the snack fairy in the popular commercials, the tooth fairy. He could desire to be the fairy of the inanminate object meat. And, in the context i have seen, fairy in relation to homosecuality is often spelled faerie. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow. If the name was Penisfairy, then I'd agree that it clearly ran afoul of WP:U, but the words "meat" and "fairy" have other connotations. If we ban every user name with a slang word for "penis," this page will be a mile long. When I first saw the name, I thought of a delightful sprite that left barbeque ribs under my pillow. Coemgenus 13:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: It just occurred to me that some of our participants may not know the term WikiFairy, which has an entirely positive meaning, and tends to give "-Fairy" a more positive connotation on Misplaced Pages than in some other contexts. -- Ben 14:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow Ok, meat is a slang for penis, what about the names HappyBird or DingDong or CheeseDoodle. Penis has more slang words for it than weed. If the user causes trouble then deal with that, but the name is fine. This may make a school kid giggle, but it is not obscene. HighInBC 14:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow "Meatfairy" = "Penisgay"??? That's quite a leap, and even if that was the intent of the user, that kind of high school humor is a far cry from being offensive. At worst, it's silly. Aelffin 15:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: I must be spending too much time on Misplaced Pages. When I first saw from the edit summary that this name had been listed, I assumed there was some problem with an implied reference to "meatpuppets" and "IRC fairies." In any event, I agree that this may be moot as this does not seem destined to be a high-activity account. Newyorkbrad 15:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good grief (per Brad) ... this is getting far more play than it deserves. A single-purpose account created for the purpose of Colbert vandalism should really be blocked for that alone, regardless of the username. (Oh, and yes, disallow the username per all above, if that's what it takes to block a disruptive SPA.) --BigDT 16:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- If you think the account should be blocked, that is another matter, we are talking about a username. HighInBC 16:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with HighInBC, there's a reason we have two different processes for two different types of violation. Let's say you have a grudge against a user, so you nominate them for a block but your arguments aren't strong enough and the user survives the block nomination... you think you can just turn around and make the same weak arguments to another group of editors in hopes that the new group is more easily persuaded? That's Double jeopardy. Safer to keep block arguments on block request pages and name arguments on name request pages. Aelffin 16:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- This isn't a bureaucracy. This account is probably never never going to get used again - it's somebody's disruptive sock/SPA. Whether it's a username block, a checkuser block, a flagrant vandalism block, the operative word is block. There's no grudge with this user. This isn't an edit conflict where we are trying to Wikilawyer a block for a long-time valued user. WP:RBI. There's no reason to spend a long time arguing about whether to block a Colbert vandal. --BigDT 16:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with HighInBC, there's a reason we have two different processes for two different types of violation. Let's say you have a grudge against a user, so you nominate them for a block but your arguments aren't strong enough and the user survives the block nomination... you think you can just turn around and make the same weak arguments to another group of editors in hopes that the new group is more easily persuaded? That's Double jeopardy. Safer to keep block arguments on block request pages and name arguments on name request pages. Aelffin 16:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- If you think the account should be blocked, that is another matter, we are talking about a username. HighInBC 16:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Be that as it may, I still disagree. The more editors see us blurring the lines here, the more it's percieved as common practice, and the more likely somebody takes issue with Big DT because they didn't like one of your edits. Aelffin 16:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- While Aelffin's point differs from mine considerably, I don't think it is a good idea block a user for username violations when the concern is disruption(assuming the name itself is not in violation). HighInBC 16:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
PrisonBreak - Wentworth Miller (talk · contribs)
Name of a show, editing article about said show. Milto LOL pia 13:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow - some sort of spammer promoting that show. His name is probably part of the promotion too. The Behnam 13:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow as per above. -- Szvest - 13:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- More than Disallow: this is a celebrity name, and (with the show title) clearly not a case of someone else who happens to have the same name. Needs to go the block-and-appeal route to unblock-l so he can prove his ID to admins privately if he really is the actor Wentworth Miller; that isn't a matter that RFC/NAME consensus can change. Likewise, spamming and COI are not RFC/NAME matters. WP:ANI and WP:AIV are the better venues. -- Ben 13:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC) ... Logged at WP:AIV. -- Ben 14:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Already done. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Allow — if the user name had been "Wentworth Miller", then I'd have agreed, but it isn't; there seems to be no intent to impersonate. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 14:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow Show title are not celebrity names, I don't they they are disallow unless trademarked (oh I just notice the celebrity name was there also, I thought it was a fictional name). However, this seems to be a promotional name. HighInBC 14:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow per Ben--William Thweatt | 15:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Disallow Gives the impression that it's some kind of "official" representative of the show and/or celebrity. Aelffin 15:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)