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The wages of POV edits are edit warring
I'm not taking the side of either the IP nor Jamez42 as I see both sets of edits as being full of WP:WEASEL problems and both as being used for either a pro or anti-Maduro WP:POVPUSH. But I'm getting pretty tired of IPs and SPAs edit warring in Venezuela articles to make Misplaced Pages into a WP:SOAPBOX for their preferred opinions and I'm half tempted to ask Arbcomm to implement a restrictive sanctions regime here. I suggest you two avoid edit warring, go to talk and also consider editing other areas of Misplaced Pages once in a while. I'm tired of this. And it's getting worse, not better. Everybody stop. Simonm223 (talk) 13:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
I currently don't have the time to answer properly to every discussion, but I will repeat that the latest changes made by the IP were unreferenced in violation of WP:VERIFY. I'll repeat that I have not introduced any new wording, allegedly "anti-Maduro", and that this is in accordance to WP:BRD. --Jamez42 (talk) 14:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
If you edited articles outside of those to do with Venezuela current affairs, you'd likely see why I view your edits as being as WP:POVPUSH as those of the IP. Simonm223 (talk) 14:23, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't quite understand your point, but each edit should me examined individually, and looking at the edit history this should be clear. Having the article in my watchlist isn't related, and I hope you're not assuming bad faith over previous editorial disagreements. --Jamez42 (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
How would I possibly know what's in your watchlist? All I can go by is your user contributions - which are effectively, from what I saw, either edits to pages about Venezuela or contributions to wikispace discussions of Venezuela. Again, if you thought I could see your watchlist, this is an indicator that you should probably broaden your understanding of Misplaced Pages culture by contributing outside the area of one highly contentious political dispute. Simonm223 (talk) 15:56, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
@Simonm223: Another bad faith assumption, and if I may add, a mistaken one. This is becoming off topic, I continued the discussion in your talk page. Returning to the issue and like I have said before, not only weasel wording has been added, but unreferenced claims have been added or have replaced important ones, like suggestion that the poverty improvements have not been temporary, that these changes have stagnated rather than reversed, and arguing foreign sanctions are responsible for the crisis, not to mention that the category "Democratic socialists" was removed without explaination. It seems that these changes were not reviewed properly before being restored. I have pinged the IP that added the content, to no avail. If there aren't any policy based reasons to maintain these changes, I will restore the original version per WP:VERIFY and WP:NPOV. --Jamez42 (talk) 22:19, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Marxism
Chávez did affirm at the very least once in the National Assembly that he considered himself a Marxist, but in another speech he claimed he wasn't. Maybe we could fix this?. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:23, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
@MarioGom: Sorry, I forgot to reply. I think that the mention that he described himself as a Marxist in the lede should be removed, or at the very least changed, since it isn't completely accurate. --Jamez42 (talk) 21:38, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
@Baprow: Seeing that once again you have reverted the image, can you explain in the talk page? It appears that it is not the first time that you edit war over an infobox image. --Jamez42 (talk) 18:56, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
The image that you propose is not suitable for the infobox. For another place in the article, yes, but not for the infobox. It is too small and when you enlarge it the quality is not too good. There are many better images. In which I propose the president's face is perfectly visible without the need for extensions and its quality is better. --Baprow (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
When I first saw both images, I noticed that one of the differences was to show Chávez either as a civilian or as a military. Since that was his career, I think the latter is more conveniente. There might be other similar images with better quality. --Jamez42 (talk) 21:52, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Although Hugo Chávez was a career military man, the highest position he achieved was the position of president, which is a civilian position. There have been other long-term presidents who were formerly military (Eisenhower, Nasser, Grant, Atarürk, Al Sisi ...) and they appear in their infoboxes in a suit and not in uniform, so I think that what they did before should not condition the photo of the infobox.Also, the photo is too small. I consider a photo in which your face is more visible to be more appropriate. --Baprow (talk) 15:59, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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