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Conflation of Hindu and Buddhist thought with New Age.

A concern I have with this article is what seems to be the conflation of Hinduism and eastern religions with New Age. The perspective of the article seems to be that any western interest in the ancient religions of the east constitutes an expression of New Age thinking. This is problematic as it denies the ancientness of these traditions and assumes that western interest in them is pathological and misguided. 74.103.194.107 (talk) 16:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

One thing or many things being artificially lumped together?

The article seems to lump together many disparate ideologies as one milieu while also, in several places, admitting that these people do not self describe as "New Agers." The article uses circular logic arguing that New Age "is typified by its eclecticism" while not giving any reason for all these various ideologies being grouped together under a single umbrella. Before reading the article, my understanding was that New Age only pertained to the idea of "Astrological cycles" very briefly described in the "Astrological cycles and the Age of Aquarius" section. It looks me like, rather than a unified movement or umbrella ideology, that people not understanding the beliefs and practices of certain (non-Judeo-Christian, non-atheist) white people have just mentally lumped them all together as "hippy stuff."

I suggest instead that the one thing unifying all these clearly distinct ideologies is that each has been a reaction against the lost of spiritual identity in modern, post-enlightenment materialism while also being unable to embrace modern Christianity. Many effects can have the same cause without the effects being classified as one thing.

The ideas of the article also smell of a kind of racism, as though the idea is, "All these white people aren't Christian, aren't atheist, and are doing very different 'spiritual' things, so it must be a singular movement." The fact that these people are described as getting ideas from ancient spiritual traditions indicates that the people described are individually seeking something missing in the broader culture and perhaps at times finding support with each other despite having differing beliefs rather than one movement which supports "supermarket spirituality" for each of its members.

IMO, either the entire article needs to be rewritten from the perspective that this is a conceptualization of a phenomenon (since apparently there have been academics who do conceptualize these various things as a singular), or the article needs to be split into several interlinked articles and reference that the behaviour, belief, or ideology has been described by specific individuals as New Age.

As support for my suggested rethinking of "New Age" compare the Japanese concept of shinshūkyō in the article Japanese new religions. Though these are completely different groups, the fact that so many groups have appeared since the Scientific Revolution could suggest similar causes as a reaction to the effects of the Scientific Revolution. 2604:2D80:DE11:1300:B19F:5802:1887:710F (talk) 20:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

"the lost of spiritual identity in modern, post-enlightenment materialism while also being unable to embrace modern Christianity." While I would not add it to the article's text, my guess is that the rise of the New Age movements, the spread of modern paganism, and the secularization of much of the Western world have a common cause. A considerable number of people find traditional versions of Christianity to be unappealing, and search for an ideology which would satisfy their spiritual needs. In any case, do you have sources to support the changes which you propose? Dimadick (talk) 08:18, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

So would is be okay to state that: "The New Age ideologies are a reaction against the lack of spiritual identity in an increasingly materialistic world. A world where people have lost the will and ability to embrace the idea of Christianity"? Also, could something be said about the way Christianity was made to seem of little value in the lives of people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.103.48 (talk) 21:16, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

If there's a reliable source supporting it, probably. I'd have to review the source to form an opinion. Schazjmd (talk) 21:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

New Age, Aliens & Consciousness

New age is very individualized it can be a series or multiple series of new age practices.

Multiple Dimensions are usually brought up in most new age practices.

Universal alien species aka aliens their origins of different species outside of Earth such as aliens from different planets are brought into theories mindsets & practices. Such terms as starseed

New age mindset

Believing that one individual or a group of individuals is over a certain dimension, to raise the collective consciousness is a new age thought and belief pattern that is becoming more, and more popular. 2600:6C4A:717F:F8A5:15E1:9697:F5B8:7F57 (talk) 23:27, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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