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slakr's life is currently frolicking with chaos, so his activity and response times to queries will be highly variable. Leave a message and he will respond whenever he gets a chance— that is, assuming he gets a chance. Cheers =) zOMG!!! I need urgent assistance!!!1!! — banana? — kiwi?

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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Regarding slakr: Why did my page get deleted? Please see Misplaced Pages:Why was my page deleted? first. I have no idea what you're talking about. What's vandalism? If you received a warning from me and you're not logged in, you might have gotten an old warning I sent to someone who shares your IP address. On the other hand, if you've made recent edits and received a recent warning message from me and you genuinely believe that it's not vandalism, don't fret-- simply drop me a message below, because I could have simply made a silly mistake. :) Regarding SineBot: Why does SineBot keep signing stuff I've already signed? All comments should have a signature that includes both a link to your user page (slakr) and a datestamp (05:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)) (per signatures - internal links). This is most easily generated by placing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your contributions, which makes something like "slakr 05:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)". If you have an interwiki-linked user page, consider either creating a user page on enwiki that redirects to your preferred home wiki or simply opting out of automatic signing. If you're still having problems after trying that, post a message below. Be sure to include diffs to make sure I can reference the problem. I don't want my comments signed by SineBot. How do I get it to ignore me or my talk page? Please use one of the opt-out methods listed on its user page. SineBot forgot to sign something it should have signed. Usually this happens because the bot isn't sure if it really should sign something, so it defaults to not signing it (e.g., in cases of complex edits). It does this to avoid being annoying. Other times, a comment might be made when the bot is down for maintenance, so the bot simply never sees it. SineBot signed something that it genuinely should not have signed. Please let me know-- especially if you think it's not a one-time thing. Be sure to include diffs to make sure I can reference the problem. Is SineBot's source code available? Not currently. I'm signing with four tildes (~~~~) but it's still saying I didn't! You likely enabled raw signatures. Open your preferences, click the "User profile" tab, make sure that "Treat the above as wiki markup" is NOT checked, and click Save; it should be fixed. If you have an interwiki-linked user page, consider either creating a user page on enwiki that redirects to your preferred home wiki or simply opting out of automatic signing.

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Huge Letters

I don't know if the recent change to signing in very large letters on the Ref Desks is deliberate or not. Personally, I find the text extremely distracting when it is this large. Can we go back to text the same size as the rest of the desk? Thanks for your help. ៛ Bielle (talk) 01:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what you're talking about. There was a change to {{Unsigned}} recently, but I think it was reverted back to small font use. If you get a chance, can you provide a diff example of the problem? Thank ya =) --slakr 19:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

As of today, the large letters are still showing for me (IE browser). Here's a link: Thanks ៛ Bielle (talk) 01:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

The big letters are still appearing. They seem to come from this template, if you look about 80% down the page to a group of — Preceding unsigned comment added by ] (] • ]) s all in large type. The Ref. Desk (Humanities) is littered with them and Sinebot seems to be using them. ៛ Bielle (talk) 22:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC) And I just noticed the same large text at the bottom of this page. ៛ Bielle (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Bielle: what do you mean by "large type"? Can you post a screenshot somewhere? What browser are you using, and have you made any changes to the default font sizes? — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Sinebot

Sinebot keeps on signing my messages while I sign with "Jouke Bersma" most of the time. Will you let this bot stop doing so? Was signed,

Jouke Bersma

Please see the FAQ at the top of the page under "SineBot" #1. --slakr 03:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

May I ask you to examine this edit?

May I ask you to please examine this edit?

I do not think that anyone disputes that Robertson did publish "the Free Zone decree", that he did claim the provenance for it that is stated, or that the use of "Free Zone" as an umbrella term evolved out of its use to designate this one group. So I tend to think that you may have simply acted in too much haste when you reverted all changes made by IP editors, rather than those which were vandalism. I wished to alert you to this at the time, but your talk page was semi-protected.

I would appreciate your attention to this matter. -- 65.78.13.238 (talk) 23:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

No idea. I'm not well-versed in the topic and usually stay out out content disputes/issues; and, my revert on that page included some sock accounts as well. If I made a mistake, since the page is currently semi-protected, you can either log in if you have an account or use {{editprotected}} on the talk page to request an edit be made. --slakr 03:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

User:69.122.210.59

This user continues to leave unsigned comments on my talk page (his first on my USER PAGE), telling me to stop making what he considers "erroneous edits" to pages I originally created or have long helped maintain, and harping on a single point I have "completely ignored", in his view. While I concede that he may be right about this single point (I would need to recheck my sources, and nobody's complained up to now, in over two years editing the pages in question), he appears to be basing his conclusions on a single, possibly noncanonical source.

Meanwhile he himself ignores wikiquette, style norms and general manners, a string of automated warnings on his own talk page about making unsigned comments and unexplained edits (dating back to 2006), and several revert notices regarding nonconstructive edits (likewise). When I pointed these warnings and notices (including those from your SineBot) out to him, noting that he was disregarding their intent in his ongoing actions, his response was to first erase them all from his talk page (isolating my replies and wikiquette reminders), then blank that page completely. I showed him links to MoS and editing standards, and asked him to stop leaving unsigned comments on my talk page; I told him I would approach an admin if he continued. He of course left yet another unsigned reply, on my talk page. I've heard enough. Could you please look into this matter? Thanks. Zephyrad (talk) 03:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

(BTW, a string of cut-n-paste, also-unsigned comments - with no edit explanations - on related talk pages appear to support his conclusions. They read like the work of a sockpuppet or meatpuppet. I have to wonder?) Zephyrad (talk) 03:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Milk Morinaga

Since you deleted the article Milk Morinaga, can you close this? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Two articles still open

Hi, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/J. J. Thiel has two saved articles and they seem to still have the AfD in process. -- Banjeboi 08:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh whoops. My bad. I'll fix momentarily. --slakr 09:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mike Wooten (trooper)

I accidentally overrode you since my closer script didn't realize it was already closed. Anyway, I reverted myself, so hopefully nobody notices. :P Cheers, =) --slakr 09:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd have liked to delete it, personally, but I think the decision wouldn't survive a DRV. We'll have to get Mr.Z-man to put in something so that the script doesn't close-conflict ;) Stifle (talk) 09:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Signing a revert

Thanks for maintaining SineBot! However, I want to report a false positive. A comment was removed from a talk page, which I then reverted. SineBot went ahead and incorrectly added my signature to it. Note, the revert comment did not contain the standard revert template, so maybe this is why it was confused. FAQ #4 says to report these things, so I thought I would let you know. Thanks! --Mosquitopsu (talk) 19:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

deletion help

I saw your name as someone who decided on a deletion.

Belle Vista and Robert D. Booker are two articles that I think qualify for removal.

Belle Vista is a neighborhood. There is no indication of why it is special. Unlike cities, which probably qualify no matter how poorly the article is written, neighborhoods are not afforded similar consideration.

Private Booker was probably heroic but this is not a reason to keep it. I think I read somewhere that "Misplaced Pages is not a memorial" and that 9/11 victims are not automatically guaranteed an article.

If you agree that either one (or both) of these articles should be deleted, would you submit the request? I will study very carefully how you do it so that I can do it myself in the future. Since you decide on these things, you are probably more familiar with how to write a request in a convincing manner. Thank you. Fossett&Elvis (talk) 17:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Cool! You have a robot/ non-human

Cool! How did you get a non-human/ robot? He went on my disccusion page and told me I had to sign posts.

It's SOOO cool how you got an online robot!

I'm shocked! O_o

--Blacky98 (talk) 21:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you look at some obvious block evasion?

Hello, Slakr. I saw that you declined to unblock some editor. I think that the other party, Propastop (talk · contribs) who has been blocked for 24 hours today for his 3RR violation is currently evading a sock, Newmenber1 (talk · contribs). I filed Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pabopa because Propastop's activities are almost identical to Pabopa's multiple socks.. The newly registered editor (just 30 min ago) targets to the article with similar edit summary with Pabopa's. The RFCU procedure would take two or week, so if I'm asking you to look into the case to see if my concern is right. Thanks--Caspian blue (talk) 02:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Your Bot Signing Signed Posts

Why is your bot signing my posts? I sign them with four tildes, but it signs them again anyway.--Tree 'uns 5 (talk) 06:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tree 'uns 5 (talk • contribs)

The same thing happened to me just a minute ago. Is it a bug or something? Rigamarole's Needle (talk) 22:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rigamarole's Needle (talk • contribs)

It looks like it's the apostrophe in your names. Using four tildes inserts a ' rather than a '. SineBot doesn't see your name because it doesn't understand ampersand codes and thinks you didn't sign. --Mosquitopsu (talk) 23:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The apostrophe screw-up was due to my screw-up in accounting for the silly bookmark thing in the regex to make the bookmark thing work. Instead I'm thinking I just need to do processing of the regex match instead, since I can't think of an easy way to make it foolproof on the regex. Anyway, the apostrophe problem should be fine once again. Cheers. --slakr 15:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Same issue a day later with Category_talk:Attapu_Province where I signed normally with --~~~~ just on a new line. Is it a bug or is it a feature?!? --katpatuka (talk) 15:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I screwed up a rollback in the revisions. Should be fixed now, but now I have to figure out how to make sure that in-page bookmarks get fixed again. :P --slakr 15:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Not working correctly and I don't have an apostrophe: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Red_Dragon&diff=241134766&oldid=241134549 --JonnyJD (talk) 15:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

That was before I fixed it. If you see anything after 15:37:47, 26Sep08, then lemme know. --slakr 15:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

nsigned template

Your revert here, besides changing the font size, also removed the css class from the template. Also, since you only edited one template out of the 10 or so unsignedX templates, that one is now out of sync with the others. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Not sure why it was changed in the first place. For one, there is no "autosigned" class. Second, small is XHTML-1.0 compliant. Third, it predates (html 3.2) the span tag (html 4) and is thus more likely to be universally understood by browsers of all shapes and forms. Finally, it's smaller, more user-friendly in its meaning, less obtrusive, and I never had to deal with a complaint in the last few years over bugs in it rendering due to CSS issues in modern browsers. Why, exactly, do you believe it urgently needs to be changed? Please help me to understand.--slakr 15:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, please let this user know as well, because I have no idea what to tell them. :P --slakr 15:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

It was changed to add the css class; I don't know what you mean when you say there is no such class, as any user can use the class in their own CSS file. I was originally going to add it to Common.css, but people prevailed on me that it's better to put the style in the template itself, and also include the CSS class so that users can override the size. It's been discussed at length. When you reverted it, you put it out of sync with all the other unsigned templates; reverting all of them would have kept them consistent. Just reverting without adding to the conversation doesn't help resolve the overall issue. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Any html element can take a class parameter, including small. Example: <small class="autosigned">this is more predictable than <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned">this. Again, if it's not broke, why fix it— especially if it reportedly gets broken in the process of fixing it, and it never really gets fixed? --slakr 16:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

There were people complaining about it being broken when it was small - hence the desire to add a CSS class to give them a chance to override the font size. I agree that we could change to <small class="autosigned"> and I would be perfectly fine with that - but that isn't what your revert accomplished.... — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Auto-sig inappropriately added

See diffs. El T (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem was fixed @ 15:37:47, 26Sep08. --slakr 15:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring my talk page

I appreciate it! Billollib (talk) 00:58, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem with bot

There seems to be a problem with the bot as on the Special Action Force's talk page. I had removed its comments that personally attack the article, but keeps coming back. Ominae (talk) 05:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Double check the page history. After you removed the comment, the user re-added it (again unsigned), so the bot signed again. --slakr 05:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Please semiprotect blocked user talk page

User talk:202.156.8.9 is now being cyclically blanked by the user (blocked by you); would you please also semiprotect the talk page? Thanks! Todd Vierling (talk) 16:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sinebot

Hello again. I told you about an autosign problem with sinebot due to my new customed signature. You said, and I thought, that it had been fixed. But sinebot seems to be up to his old tricks again. I signed a talk post and it came through and autosigned it.  Declan Davis   (talk)  17:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)