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Profile of ISS246's contributions to Misplaced Pages.

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I have worked most on the entries health psychology, principally in June 2008, and City College of New York, principally in July 2008. I have also worked on the List of City College of New York people. More recently, I turned my attention to occupational health psychology.

In connection to OHP, I have begun to watch the psychology sidebar and the Template:Psychology.

External links

Links to external sites are fine, but as a service to our readers, please confine yourself to the few that add the most value to the article. See WP:EL for guidance on adding such. - Eldereft ~(s)talk~ 20:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I made a request to WP:Third opinion regarding your SOHP newsletter link. If someone else says that it adds value to the article I will abide by that. As a friendly heads up, and please accept that I am assuming good faith, it is considered poor form to make contentious edits while not logged in. - Eldereft ~(s)talk~ 21:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Health psychology

No problem, i fight the right :) --Aleen f1 17:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Health psychology

Occupational health psychology

Began work on occupational health psychology. It is difficult working alone. I hope some others pitch in to help construct the Misplaced Pages entry. Iss246 (talk) 22:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Blocked?

Hi, I saw this edit. I've just checked and this account is most definitely not blocked. Perhaps you tried to edit before logging in to your account? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Just to second that - I haven't ever blocked your account, nor has anyone else. If you tried to edit without logging in from an IP range which has been blocked, then you would not be able to edit, but you can get around that by logging in to your account. If you received a message saying "This IP address was autoblocked because it was used recently by banned user XYZ" please try again. The fact that you were able to leave a message on my talk page indicates that the block issue only affected you briefly, but if it is persisting we can assist in figuring it out. If you can't get a message through here or on my talk page send email to unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org .

Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

City College of New York article

Hi. Thanks for your additions to the CCNY article. I hope you have Joseph Dorman's "Arguing the World" on tape or an excellent memory because, even though I saw the documentary way back when, I can't remember exactly that information. I can't find an online transcript of the documentary, either, to check about "Alcove 1", etc. Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 19:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi. You're very welcome and thanks for your kindest note. The article is looking very good. I've been editing that article for years now. :) Keep up the excellent work. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 23:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Sounds good. But it's factual that the C train stops for CCNY, although it's still a dubious walk through St. Nicholas Park in the dark. People do it during the day. And they just moved the "Hamilton Grange" house, really and literally, into St. Nicholas Park from next to Steinman on Convent Avenue so there should be more tourists and safety in the park now. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 14:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Got your note on the perils of the 135th St. Station and St. Nicholas Park as a path to and from it. Well, so be it. It used to be back in the day a major thoroughfare to CCNY on the hill, from the 135th St. Station. But that was the 1950s and 60s. They say the newly located Hamilton Grange will be brilliant. It's moved twice from its original location. It's better off in the park. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 17:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi. You've made a lot of edits to the CCNY article. One statement seemed like a non-sequitur: "The Free Academy had a framework of tolerance that extended beyond the admission of (male) students from any social stratum". What does it specifically mean and where is the statement supported by a citation? Where did it come from ? -- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 22:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for your note. But the text seemed like a non-sequitur, in situ. Will re-check. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 22:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I just read the relevant parts of the Bender book. I will change the verbiage to perhaps flow a bit more. Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 22:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kindest comments. I agree that we have worked well together. I did some more edits. Check them out. As far as the endowment of CCNY, it is a complicated issue. There are at least three different funds. I think the article's shown figure is vastly understated. For example, according to a 2008 report, just the "The Campaign for the City College of New York" which started in 2002 has raised to date "in excess" of 230 million dollars since 2002. Apart from that there is the "21st Century Fund" and the "City College Fund" etc. And private bequeathing. So it's all very complicated. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 18:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

And then there's money like the Grove Endowment, which Andy Grove of Intel and a CCNY alumnus, gave $26 million to the Engineering School in 2005. But it's the "Grove Endowment" for the Engineering School, now called "The Grove School of Engineering", of course. So it's hard to pin-point a single CCNY endowment figure. Even after looking though the Development Office pages. It's more than $230 million, that's for sure. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 19:45, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

None of the CUNY colleges are seemingly listed in the NACUBO Endowment Study 2007. Or in List of U.S. colleges and universities by endowment article. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 20:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your having a look at the refinement. I also noticed that Samuel Ruggles' 1854 pamphlet "The Duty of Columbia College to the Community" was a kickoff for the drama surrounding Dr. Gibbs' potential appointment at Columbia (cf. Bender, p. 271 etc.). Best wishes. -- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 00:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your message. Yes, in general, you're quite right. I've found in my years of Misplaced Pages editing that sometimes, some other editor will delete or move around some text I've written in the article where the "as mentioned above"/"previously referred to" etc. is no longer valid through no fault of my own. And when I get to it on my watchlist of 1,000's of articles, if I get to see the change, I will try to fix it. But sometimes I miss it and the article is left in slight relativistic disarray. So, I personally, have tried to avoid such phraseology. But feel free to change it back and I won't disturb your edit if you feel you can keep up with it in case someone changes it ! I personally try to avoid it just from being burned in the past. But the cost is redundancy as you've pointed out wisely. Best wishes and thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 19:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Good and well done. Not every editor, especially anon's, are conscientious about looking out for such hints. Nevetherless, good work. Be well. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 19:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello again. The section in List of City College of New York people on "Prestigious Scholarships" seems to be altogether too recent and lop-sided, disregarding all the people from 1847, and maybe self-serving to those who put it in there ? Just an impression. Perhaps false. What do you think ? Best Wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 21:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comment on the edits I made. Your work on the CCNY article has been excellent, I might add. It's really a nice article. Some say a bit too long but it's fine by me. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 17:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

List of City College of New York people, companion piece to the City College of New York article

List of City College of New York people

Occupational health psychology

RE: Occupational Health Psychology

I wanted you to know that I've been adding about two sentences per day to the occupational health psychology entry. I can't work faster than that because I have a day job. My goal is to get the entry listed on the sidebar without any problems.Iss246 (talk) 02:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I set up an RfC on the talk page to seek additional opinions. It will take a bot a couple of hours to finish setting it up, then in a few days maybe we'll have some more opinions.

I think you're doing an excellent job on Occupational health psychology, and I very much appreciate your additions. I should emphasize that my objection to including OHP in the sidebar has nothing to do with the quality of the OHP article. It pertains to my concerns about including a subdiscipline in a sidebar that (in my opinion anyway) should be very brief and only include the major disciplines in psychology. In any event, however, I think your additions to the OHP article are much needed, and the OHP article will give editors responding to the RfC more information on which to form opinions. Thanks for your contributions. Ward3001 (talk) 03:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Ward3001, any resolution on the matter of occupational health psychology moving to the sidebar? Iss246 (talk) 21:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

No response to the RfC yet, and without additional comments we have no consensus to make the change. All we can do is wait to see if others comment. Psychology issues, in my experience, typically don't attract a lot of comments unless they are extremely controversial (e.g., displaying a Rorschach image). But over time we might get some more people to express themselves. Ward3001 (talk) 00:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The side bar is unbalanced. It includes sports psychology, which after a couple of years remains a weak entry. But the sidebar excludes the more solid occupational health psychology.Iss246 (talk) 02:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

You might want to raise the issue on the talk page for the sidebar if you wish to pursue that issue further. That having been said, I should point out an issue on which I think you and I are in fundamental disagreement (although I don't want to jump to conclusions about how you might be thinking). I get the impression from several of your comments that you feel the length (and perhaps quality) of the article on a discipline (or subdiscipline) should determine whether that discipline or subdisclipine should be included in the sidebar. If that is your thinking, then I disagree with you. The sidebar should reflect the prominence of the discipline in the world in general, not just how the articles stack up on Misplaced Pages. I don't think you will find much support for the idea that occupational health psychology is a more prominent discipline than sports psychology (although, as I've said, you're welcome to raise this issue on the talk page). There are a variety of reasons an article may not have as much length or substance on Misplaced Pages compared to other articles. Some of these may have little, if any relationship, to the relative positions of the two topics in the world outside of Misplaced Pages. For example, there are dozens of psychology-related articles to which I would like add and expand, but I cannot always do so because of lack of time. So, in summary, I don't think the size of an article in Misplaced Pages should be a determinant (in and of itself) of whether it belongs in the sidebar. If the "Clinical psychology" or "Social psychology" articles only had a couple of paragraphs, I would not argue against having them in the sidebar if my only basis was the length (or even quality) of their articles. But as I have said, you are free to raise any issue you wish on the talk page and see how others feel. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 02:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I think measure for measure, you are just opposing me for the sake of opposing me

I suspect this sums up your approach to the issues of assuming good faith and the consensus process, so rather than getting into an argument with you, let me just say that your are wrong in this statement -- absolutely and utterly wrong -- but I doubt anything I say or do (other than stating that you can add OHP to the sidebar) will change your mind. And I also add that I am not the only editor who opposes inclusion of OHP, but you seem to have targeted me in particular. I'll also state that, even if I completely agreed with you, there would not be a consensus to make the change. So I'll leave it at that, and advise you to take up any additional concerns either on the sidebar talk page or in the usual processes for dispute resolution on Misplaced Pages. I don't say any of this with animosity, and I respect your opinion to disagree with me on anything, but I don't think further discussion between us is going to resolve anything at this point (I'm sorry to say). There are policies and procedures for handling differences of opinion on Misplaced Pages which I have not created (or even contributed to), and whether you agree with them or not, they must be followed. I don't want to assume anything about what you might do at this point, but I hope you will try to stay within those policies and procedures (for your sake as well as Misplaced Pages's) and not choose to edit war or be disruptive in your editing (and if that is not your style, I apologize for even wondering if you would engage in those behaviors). I have been in many battles over content on Misplaced Pages and have been on the losing end of many bitter disputes, but that is the way of Misplaced Pages. So I wish you the best and encourage you to continue making some very positive contributions to the project. I don't wish to discuss whether OHP should be in the sidebar any further except on the sidebar's talk page and a consensus begins to emerge. So please add any additional comments on that talk page instead of mine. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 17:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Recent Psychology Template edit

I think I may have balled up my attempt to undo a bit of vandalism (something like Roxy Socks was added by a vandal) to the Psychology Template. I am not positive, but I think I was editing about the time you edited the act of vandalism away. I either succeeded in editing the Roxy Socks addition out or unwittingly restored the addition that I wanted to delete. I didn't mean to get in the way of your edits. I feel the same opprobrium toward the vandals.Iss246 (talk) 00:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I reverted your edit, which restored things to the way the were before the vandalism. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 01:28, 10 November 2008 (UTC)