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Elements

Anyone object to a section being added about recurring elements. Some other series have like recurring jokes and etc. Just would be a good place to mention (and link to article) for christmukkah, among other recurring elements for the show. IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 13:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it would depend on what exactly these recurring elements are. Each element should be individually notable and we should avoid a trivia section. On a related note, Chrismukkah already has it's own article. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Plot tag

Boldly removed plot tag. Please comment on what you see as a problem. It seems reasonable to me. Hobit (talk) 21:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Gregory House and O.C.

The following TV characters have revealed themselves to be fans of The O.C.:

• Dr. Gregory House (House)

Where did G. House said, that he is a fan of O.C.?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.172.29.47 (talk) 20:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Where's The SEason 2 Descrip?

( —Preceding unsigned comment added by ToonIsALoon (talk • contribs) 13:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Revamp

Okay I'm going to try and revamp this. It will take some time and sections will need to be remove completely redone. Here is my outline of what sections I think should eventually exist:

Production

Concept  Done (largely) 23:09, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Filming locations  Done (largely) 21:05, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Music  Done (largely) 23:09, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Series overview

Cast and characters

Distribution (i.e. First-run TV, syndication, DVDs)  Question:

Worked into the following sections

• First run broadcast
• Cancellation
• Media releases

Might need a syndication section? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Impact

Ratings  Done (largely) 00:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Awards  Done (largely) 13:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Critical reception

Fandom and popular culture

Complementary media

Feel free to help. My initial concerns are the popular culture section is far to large, and the characters section needs a lot of work. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:09, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Removing section

I am removing the following section as I feel it is WP:UNDUE:

"Save the O.C." webpage

I PROMISE to cancel dinner dates, skip night school classes, trade shifts with a co-worker, walk the dog after dinner and do whatever else is necessary to ensure that I am on my couch each and every Thursday night at 9pm. And when I am on that couch at that time, I will do nothing but watch The O.C. I vow to do this every week to show my support for Ryan, Seth, Summer, Sandy, Kirsten, Julie and all of those new people that I love. With my humble effort each week, I will help build a groundswell of support for one of the best shows on television, The O.C. With this virtual signature, I THEE WATCH.

The .../savetheoc website is long dead and archive.org exists but without visible content. The quote can be referenced by this but I still think it is unnecessary. As such I am removing this section and will just tweak the sentence in "Cancellation" to refer to the petition and signatures as mentioned below. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 12:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Series Overview section?

I am questioning the necessity of the newly added Series Overview section in the article. I initially tried to clean up the submission as there was a lot of commentary and other issues with it, but after doing so I question if it should even really be there. While certainly concise enough per wp:plot, it is still rather scattered in reading due to being incomplete with highlights. It also seems rather repetitive with regards to the relationships - and while they are indeed that way in the show itself - it reads rather circular. I am thinking maybe a rewrite without the seasonal blow-by-blow to just illustrate the larger overall plotlines and the issues that the characters dealt with from more of a birds-eye view. Thoughts? Srobak (talk) 17:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Prominent guest stars

I am questioning the necessity of featuring "prominent guest stars" under the cast section. I was going to remove it but I thought I'd bring it up for discussion here on the talk page. In my reasoning for wanting to remove the prominent guest stars section, I'm questioning what exactly makes a guest star prominent? Is it that they are a recurring guest star? And even so, recurring characters/guest stars should not be included on the main page and should just be on the "Characters of The O.C." page. Also, seeing as how there are no exact guidelines as to how a guest star is "prominent", certain guest stars may be excluded from that list when that are in fact prominent enough to make that list, or a guest star may be added to that list when they are not prominent enough to make that list. The 90210 page had a similar section with prominent recurring characters but was also found unnecessary and undue, so it was removed. Ryanlively (talk) 01:40, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I would actually go so far as to say a page dedicated simply to the list of guest stars - prominent or not - is over-cooking it a bit. Can't say that even prominent guest stars are significant enough to warrant their own page, and as such - recurring characters which do serve an impact in the overall storyline should be left on the main article page so as not to clutter up WP with articles lacking significance on their own. Srobak (talk) 05:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Mention it?

Why isn´t the American Dream mentioned in the article? Doesn´t Ryan live it to the fullest through the help of his family. Maybe we have to add this. What do you think? -amkx3- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.64.149 (talk) 19:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Cast and characters in-universe problems

The "Cast and Characters" section of the articles is very in-universe, describing the characters as if they were real people living real lives. I am honestly not sure how to improve it so I am just creating this section if anyone wants to contribute suggestions for how we can make that section less in-universe. I think one way we can do that is include the actors' commentary on their characters. Cadiomals (talk) 16:39, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Removal of trivial content

I removed Penny Lane's contributions because they do not abide by what Misplaced Pages is not. Much of the info was irrelevant trivia which is against WP:TRIVIA. I also temporarily removed the "Fandom and popular culture" section until a more encyclopedic one can be produced because most of it was trivial commentary. It has to abide by WP:POPCULTURE. In general, this article has a number of problems which I am trying to improve, in order that this article may one day qualify for GA status. Sorry, Penny, but although your contributions were in good faith, they were not encyclopedic and don't help to improve the article's quality. Cadiomals (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Most of the content was actually already in the article, I was just trying to clean it up. I actually based it off the http://en.wikipedia.org/Arrested_Development_%28TV_series%29#Themes_and_other_characteristics section. We could probably lose the section on "Cultural References" (because that isn't very unique to the series, though I might keep some mention of the literature habits of the characters, as I cited that some critics have called it a unique aspect of the series). I feel like "The Valley" and "Chrismukkah" -- even though I know it has it's own page -- (and Music should, of course, stay) should be identified in the article because they function as unique aspects and recurring themes to solely this series. Penny Lane's America (talk) 00:50, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I also think the 'Dear Sister' paragraph needs to be added back in as it's the biggest spotlight the series has had in popular culture since the series went off the air. Penny Lane's America (talk) 00:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I do think a pop culture section should be added, but we have to be careful not to add too much trivia and make sure its relevant and well sourced and abides by WP:POPCULTURE. You can make a "Fandom and popular culture" section again but make sure not to dwell too much on unimportant topics. I'll improve it where I see fit. Thanks, Cadiomals (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Characters

I think it would be interesting to also add more about the character relationships especially about the constant struggle that Ryan, Marissa, Seth, and Summer always find themselves in so that they can all be together. Also another really interesting aspect about the show is the amount of repetition that takes place. Maybe that would fit somewhere. Cwalkerr21 (talk) 18:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't really belong in the Cast and Characters subject because then it would be too "in-universe." In this section we actually try to provide more information about casting and how the actors portrayed the characters rather than what went on the fictional lives of the characters themselves. Cadiomals (talk) 19:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

1. ^ "Save The OC" (). Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. Retrieved January 4, 2007.
2. Talpade, Anuj (February 11, 2008). "The countdown for OC IV begins". Essel Group. Retrieved October 1, 2009.

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