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Al-Nafis

Hi ManiF, I am really glad that this time you assumed good faith and not thought of me as just an arab nationalist that goes around and changes everything to arab.

His name was علاء الدين أبو الحسن عليّ بن أبي حزم القرشي الدمشقي , the Al-Quraishi in his name indicates that he is from the arab tribe of Quraish. The prophet mohammad was also from that tribe too. So not just any arab!

Most sources say that he is an Arab, including:

• Britannica

The book you have posted : Going Higher: Oxygen Man and Mountains is actuall not about science or medicine history, as you can see from the name of the title and from its contetns. But rather books like:

• Forgotten Revolution: How Science Was Born in 300 BC and Why It Had to Be Reborn - by Lucio Russo

But still, its interesting that he was mentioned as persian in the link you posted.

Jidan 16:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, I am sorry ManiF. I have to correct my info. His name Al-Quraishi indictaes he may came from Qursh, a village near to Damscus. (Arabic).

And Birmistan Al-nouri (البيمارستان النوري )was a hospitel in damscus, named after the Buyahid ruler البيمارستان العضدي Al-Birmistan Al-'Adhdi. Jidan 17:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome. The College Hospital (Bimaristan Al-Noori) was founded by the turkish ruler by Noor al-Din Al-Zanki . Why he choosed Birmstan , is really interesting! Maybe his ancestor was Birmistan!Jidan 18:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I have no info from Nafis. But for Mashallah, we have a situation. If you can find the email of Donald R. Hill, the author of "Islamic Science and Engineering", we may find our answer. I tried looking. But I cant locate where he is, or what University he teaches at. I couldnt find him on Edinburgh University faculty list. His book is a bit puzzling. On p. 10 it says he is a Jew from Khorasan, but later on he says he is a Jew from Basrah.--Zereshk 19:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I think I figured it out. I think this is the case: Mashallah was from Khorasan, no doubt, as Donald Hill says, but he moved to Basrah, not unsimilar to what we have for Khwarazmi. The Iraq/Baghdad area was the cosmopolitan center of those days. So no surprise there.

I think we have a case here. Mashallah was indeed Iranian.--Zereshk 22:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Ibn al-nadim

I have never mentioned that he is an Arab! or arab-born or something like this. Jidan 22:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

*sigh*..thats fine with me. Jidan 22:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijan

Please look at . Bidabadi 11:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Aucaman arbitration

Yes, if you think you have evidence to present that will show they are involved, go ahead. We'll take a look at it and see if we think it's serious or related enough for inclusion in a final decision. Thanks. Dmcdevit·t 06:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I added what became obvious when looking at the evidence. Others had only presented evidence of Acauman's edit warring, but in each case when I looked at the diffs, I saw the same people in the same edit wars with him over and over again. So I added them. If you feel there are others that ought to be included, please add the evidence to the case and I'll look at it in the morning. Dmcdevit·t 08:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you still have time. Voting takes a while and is a fluid process, during which new proposals are always added (In fact, I just changed the Zmmz one). Also, it doesn't close until we agree to close, and if there is still evidence coming in, we'll hold off on closing. We won't wait around forever (it's been 3 weeks) but if you get evidence to us in the next few days, we'll definitely take it into consideration. Dmcdevit·t 19:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Qabusnameh etc.

Please take a look at LGBT rights in Iran. There are statements about Bustan and Golestan and Qabusnameh. Are these statements correct ? I think these are written by some western editors who have no understanding of the language and style of these books and sufi poetry in general ("Moreed/Morad" and Morshed ...). Thanks. --Mitso Bel13:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear friends I think one way to confront systematic misinterpretation of Persian mystic poetry and Persian Sufism would be developing the following page: Persian Mysticism. Here we can define and introduce this school of thought and Moreed/Morad relationship and related concepts in the context of Persian literature and culture. To me, this is a good way to stop misinterpretation of Persian mystic poetry. Take care.--Mitso Bel 11:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Your complaint to Tony Sidaway

Mani, I've responded to your procedural concerns on Tony's talk page. Let me assure you I have no intention of backing away from my responsibility. I could make a fuss now about you failing to AGF, but I'm tired of these games. Also, if I hadn't already seen so much confused and garbled English over the last few days, I'd take great offense at your using the word "perjured". I'll let it pass, but please look it up in a dictionary, and you might then still want to retract it before Tony or somebody else actually sees it. Lukas 15:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)