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Revolt of the Lash
Hi Lecen. I've decided to start working on Revolt of the Lash with two of my sources (Zachary Morgan, "The Revolt of the Lash, 1910," in Naval Mutinies of the Twentieth Century, eds. Christopher M. Bell and Bruce A. Elleman , 32–53; Joseph L. Love, The Revolt of the Whip .). Scheina's two books are at home, unfortunately, but they have less information anyway. I'll also be using Google Books. Would you like to help, and/or would you happen to have any Portuguese sources? Thanks, as always, Ed 09:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ed, I don't have any sources (any good and detailed sources, anyway) about it, unfortunately. Now that you asked, I stopped to take a look at my books and I noticed that. I practically don't have any book focused on Brazilian late 19th and early 20th century. All that I do have is our old acquaintance "A marinha brasileira na era dos encouraçados". I was taking a look at Joseph Love's book and it looks quite good and is possibly reliable. You should work on the article using the sources you already have. I'll use google books (with Portuguese sources) to add further sources.
- There is one huge gap here on Misplaced Pages when dealing with Brazilian history. There are good articles about Brazil until 1889 and then others after 1906. A lot happened between those 15 years. You might have read somewhere about Admiral Saldanha da Gama, the leader of the Revolta da Armada. He was a direct descendant of Vasco da Gama (yes, that Vasco da Gama) and of the Marquis of Pombal. One was the most important Portuguese in the 15th century and the other in the 18th century. Saldanha da Gama was a monarchist who fought to restore the monarchy in the 1890s and died for that. His rebellions explains why Brazil stopped being respected abroad, why it became a failure in economics and politics (at least until the early 1990s) and why our navy became garbage. I'm right now working on Joaquim José Inácio, Viscount of Inhaúma, a Portuguese-born Admiral of the Empire of Brazil, but that gap has to be dealt with. --Lecen (talk) 10:39, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- P.S.: You should try to contact the authors of those books. I exchanged several e-mails with Roderick J. Barman (Citizen Emperor: Pedro II and the Making of Brazil), Jeffrey D. Needell (The Party of Order: the Conservatives, the State, and Slavery in the Brazilian Monarchy) and Thomas Whigham (The Paraguayan War: Causes and early conduct). It's amazing the many things we learn from them that we can't find in the books. --Lecen (talk) 10:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Works for me! I'll be putting together a completely new draft at User:The ed17/Sandbox/Revolt of the Lash, as it looks like much of the existing text has been copied from my articles.
- I did not know that da Gama was a descendant of Vasco, but I did know of his integral role in the 1893–94 naval revolts thanks to research for the history of the dreadnought race and doing a little work on the Brazilian battleship Aquidaba a couple years ago. I'm not used to writing biographies, though, and I suspect many of the sources—especially those on his life outside the rebellion—would be in Portuguese. If you'd be up for a collaboration... (hint, hint) ;-) Ed 10:59, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- In Joseph Love's book the Baron of Rio Branco is again mentioned. No Brazilian was more influential than him in that time. In fact, he is, along with Pedro II, usually called "the greatest Brazilian". He needs a decent article here. I'll work on that one day. Let me finish a few more articles of the imperial era and I'll be able to start working on other time periods. --Lecen (talk) 11:29, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- I've started the article in my sandbox (see the new blue link above). Feel free to add to it whenever; I'm not known for pounding out articles quickly anyway. :-) Ed 11:52, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- In Joseph Love's book the Baron of Rio Branco is again mentioned. No Brazilian was more influential than him in that time. In fact, he is, along with Pedro II, usually called "the greatest Brazilian". He needs a decent article here. I'll work on that one day. Let me finish a few more articles of the imperial era and I'll be able to start working on other time periods. --Lecen (talk) 11:29, 24 November 2012 (UTC)