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Spelling

The article can't seem to decide on how to spell Kirghiz/Kyrgyz (nor can other articles (Kyrgyzstan and Kyrgyz language use Kyrgyz)). TimBentley (talk) 23:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

The 'gh' is the British spelling. The 'y' and 'g' standalone is the preferred Kyrgyz government transliteration. However publications still come out with not only those but Kirgis, Kirgiz... In Cyrillic it is Кыргыз, which would favor the 'y' spelling. Chris 01:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Weren't the kirgiz a Celtic people? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.194.225.164 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 15 February 2007.

No. Khoikhoi 08:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

"related groups" info removed from infobox

For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

tribal unions of Sakas and Usuns, Dinlins and Huns

To my fellow editors I want to copy the bibliography that Abramzon gives in the note to his statement about Kirgiz descent from tribal unions of Sakas and Usuns, Dinlins and Huns:

A.N.Bernshtam: 1) Question of origin of Kirgiz people; 2) Arrival of Kirgizes in the Tien Shan in 9-10 cc.; 3) Archeological sketch of Northern Kirgizia. Frunze. 1941, p. 46 on; S.P.Tolstov, Primary problems of ethnogenesis of peoples in Middle Asia. In book: Soviet ethnography, 6-7, 1946, pp. 303-304; S. V. Kiselev, Ancient history of Southern Siberia. М., 1951; Yu. Zuev. 1) Term "Kyrkun". Question of ethnic origin of Kyrgyzes in Chinese sources. TII, issue 4, 1958; 2) Ethnic history of Usuns. Works of Hist., Arheol., and Ethnogr. Inst. of Academy of Sciences KazSSR, vol. 8; New materials on ancient and medieval history of Kazakhstan. Alma-Ata. 1960; S.M.Abramzon, Kirgizes. Soviet Historical Encyclopedia, vol. 7, page 277. (In Abramzon S.M. "Kirgizes and their ethnogenetical historical and cultural connections", Moscow, 1971, p. 423)Barefact (talk) 06:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Kyrgyz#Origins

The History of Kyrgyzstan article is about the history of the territory of Kyrgyzstan, not of the Kyrgyz themselves. While some info on their origins is relevant, the majority of the "Origins of the Kyrgyz people" section belongs in the Kyrgyz article, not in the History of Kyrgyzstan article. Otebig (talk) 21:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Image really from 1905-1915?

Is the image of the Kyrgyz family really from 1905-1915? That seems dubious, given the picture quality and original resolution. ask123 (talk) 14:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

It's plausible. The photographer - Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky - was a pioneer of color photography and was taking photos like this at that time. Also, the color "imperfections" in this image (e.g. around the man's right eye) are consistent with his technique. The high resolution is not a problem: a 35mm photo scanned from the original negatives can easily be blown up to this size (or more). Finally, the photo is part of a collection purchased by the US Library of Congress from Prokudin-Gorsky's family. In other words, I think it's probably fine. ;) -- Hux (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Kyrgyz and Pushkin

There are many references of Kyrgyz in the novel The Captain's Daughter by the Russian novelist Alexander Pushkin published in 1836. However, Kyrgyzstan and the theater of war in Pugachev's Rebellion (which is the theme of the novel) are too far away. It is certain that Pushkin's Kyrgyz people are other Central Asiatic people like Kazakh. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Indeed; as far as I remember, history books usually have a footnote saying that in the 18th through early 20th century, "Kirghiz" (киргиз) in Russian referred to the Kazakhs, while when the time came to talk about the Kyrgyz people as we know them, they were called "Kara Kirghiz". Vmenkov (talk) 13:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Is it confusion?

"Genghis Khan's oldest son Jochi occupied Kyrgyzstan without resistance." Is it confusion? To my uinderstanding, Jochi conquered Oin Irgen or those peoples who lived around Yenisey (approximately modern Tuva) without resistance. That may have included the Yeniseyan Kyrghyz, but not the modern territory of Kyrghyzstan. Gantuya eng (talk) 07:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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Related groups

Related groups - Russians?! Ali-al-Bakuvi (talk) 11:29, 6 May 2013 (UTC) 

Hello wikipedia contributors 
> I,m writing to you cause when I was reading a topic "Kyrgyz people" i found some
> mistakes. In section "Related ethnic groups"  it was Mongols and Tuvans that are
> not related to Kyrgyz people. Mongols and Tuvans are different nations with
> different culture and race. As you know Kyrgyz people are Turkic speaking people
> and related to Turanian race (Mixed with European and Mongoloid race or  Turanian
> race).  But Mongols and Tuvans related to Mongoloid race. Tuvans are also turkic
> speaking people but genetically they are mongoloid and culturally they are
> different. So please can you fix it. Mongolians and Tuvans are not related to
> kyrgyz people.
> Thank you in advance.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Labrador840 (talk • contribs) 08:44, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Religion

In article it is said that Kyrgyz people are predominantly Muslims. But some users add Tengrism, Christianity, Shamanism in infobox as well, whereas there is no info about it anywhere. Can someone clarify the situation? Thanks, Ali-al-Bakuvi (talk) 07:30, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Related ethnic groups

Hello wikipedia contributors I,m writing to you cause when I was reading a topic "Kyrgyz people" i found some mistakes. In section "Related ethnic groups" it was Mongols and Tuvans that are not related to Kyrgyz people. Mongols and Tuvans are different nations with different culture and race. As you know Kyrgyz people are Turkic speaking people and related to Turanian race (Mixed with European and Mongoloid race or Turanian race). But Mongols and Tuvans related to Mongoloid race. Tuvans are also Turkic speaking people but genetically they are mongoloid and culturally they are different. So please can you fix it. Mongolians and Tuvans are not related to kyrgyz people. Thank you in advance.

İndo-European Speakers

I was read on article "Haplogroup R1a1 (Y-DNA) is often believed to be a marker of the Proto-Indo-European language speakers." İt's a hypothesis, and not certain. I think it's a sided setence and should be remove. Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 15:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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