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Huns

In Hohhot there is a museum dedicated to the Xiongnu, and the info panels use the term Hun interchangeably with Xiongnu in English pointing out the meaning Hun in Mongolian today is 'Human', thus acknowledging the Xiongnu as proto-Mongolians.

I wonder if that's because every man and his dog wants to claim that the Xiongnu were their ancestors? The truth is that no one actually knows.  Philg88  09:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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How come the Asian Huns (Xiongnu) are categorised as Mongols and Mongolic people here? Scientific resources clearly favor a Turkic origin, as remaining words, titles and names are (predominantly) Turkic. The Proto-Mongols at that time were living in far more eastern regions and were called Xianbei (check the article). So I'll change this wrong categorization. Akocsg (talk) 00:00, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean?! Do you read this section or not?:

• The identity of the ethnic core of Xiongnu has been a subject of varied hypotheses, because only a few words, mainly titles and personal names, were preserved in the Chinese sources. Proposals by scholars include Turkic, Mongolic, Yeniseian, Tocharian, Iranian, and Uralic.

So DO NOT change the categories without other editors' opinion. You should wait for the consensus. --Zyma (talk) 08:41, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes of course. A section (one of many actually, especially the ones that desperately try to hide/undo the Turkic presence) that doesn't belong there. One thing is for sure: They were Altaic, and mostly Turkic at the core. Definitely not Uralic, or even Tocharian or Iranian! Misplaced Pages should not be a place for you desperate pan-persian propagandists.Akocsg (talk) 18:20, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

User:1sasdasd

This editor needs to explain his edit warring which is not supported by academic or wikipedia consensus and give undue weight to one theory. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:00, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

History of the Xiongnu needs deep research (linguistics, history, antropology, arhaeology etc.), ancient and medieval books are not always true. For example, Chinese books say Shiwei were subgroup of the Khitan Mongols. In fact, medieval Mongols didn't live in northern Khabarovsk Krai and Mongols are nomadic people but almost all Shiwei tribes were semi-nomadic people (hunters, fishers etc).

Shiwei: "Shiwei was an umbrella term of Mongols and Tungusic peoples that inhabited far-eastern Mongolia, northern Inner Mongolia, northern Manchuria and near the Okhotsk Sea In describing the origin of the Shiwei, Chinese dynastic histories record that it is somewhat related to the Khitan, who were of Xianbei origin". Khartakhan (talk) 16:20, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Wrong statements

No greco-roman author has called Magyars "Scythians". Magyars came in europe arround 8th century and there was no Roman empire, nor Greece. There was only Byzantine empire . The byzantine authors called Magyars not "Scythians" but turks, and "black turks"."Scythians" were called the Bulgars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix1129 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Mongolic theories

What is problem with this contents? If users don't add information then how people know about the Xiongnu? Or you going to say that "users didn't add any content"? Or all Mongolian sources are unreliable? Where did live Xiongnu people? In Mongolia. Where did centered Xiongnu state? in Mongolia. Mongolian scholars work together with foreign scholars so world scholars know about their works. Xiongnu#Archaeology: "Political center of the Xiongnu state was in Mongolia and almost all of the Xiongnu kings buried in Mongolia". Turkic vandalism on 25 June 2014, Turkic vandalism on 25 June 2014 (78.184.78.204 IP from Istanbul, Turkey), Version on 3 Semtember 2014, Version on 12 January 2014). The last vandalism did by User:Edward321.

A.Luvsandendev (Mongolia), Bernát Munkácsy (Hungary), Henry Howorth, Rashpuntsag, (Rashpunstag (1776) "The Crystal Beads) Alexey Okladnikov, Peter Pallas, Isaak Schmidt, Nikita Bichurin and Byambyn Rinchen insisted on a Mongolic origin. Genghis Khan refers to the time of Modu Chanyu as "the remote times of our Chanyu" in his letter to Daoist Qiu Chuji"(Henry Howorth (1880) "History of the Mongols from the 9th to the 19th Century") There are many cultural similarities between the Xiongnu and Mongols such as yurt on cart, composite bow, board game, horn bow and tamga. (Н.Сэр-Оджав, Монголын эртний түүх. 1977) Mongolian long song is believed to descended from the Xiongnu. (Mongolian traditional folk song UNESCO.org) Mongolian symbol of the sun, moon and fire derived from the Xiongnu (see Flag of Mongolia, Emblem of Mongolia, Soyombo symbol, Flag of the Republic of Buryatia, Coat of arms of the Republic of Buryatia, Flag of the Inner Mongolian People's Party

. Khartakhan (talk) 02:18, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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