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Congratulations, you are an administrator (again)

Hi Sarek. I am pleased to report that I have closed your request for adminship as successful. Welcome (back) to the admin corps. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 05:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

A bit of edit warring in the night

Hey, Sarek! Welcome back to the admin corps. Glad to see you back. So, how'd you like to don your admin hat and take a look at some edits by Jimthing. He's been edit warring US v. U.S. formatting at 24 (TV series) and at Better Call Saul, and won't discuss. He's got some POV to push, but he's massively over WP:3RR at Better Call Saul and just over on 24, with no signs of stopping -- he clearly thinks he's going to make a pronouncement and everyone will do as he says. I'll head for the edit warring board if need be, but given the multiple edit wars, I though a bit of administrative triage might be useful first. Thanks! --Drmargi (talk) 17:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Can you stop putting words in my mouth, I have no "POV to push" whatsoever. That's is an entirely untrue account of what has happened. I most certainly DID discuss it, both on the edit summary repeatedly (COMPLETELY ignored by you repeatedly), and on the talk page (again, COMPLETELY ignored by you). Instead you patronise me there that the guideline was somehow not what I quoted, and quote some made-up American article usage thing that doesn't apply for the edit I was making; PER THE MOS:ABBR guideline I quoted repeatedly, that EVERYONE including you and the other editors on there should be following. Comments like "he clearly thinks he's going to make a pronouncement and everyone will do as he says" is just a plainly needlessly rude way of trying to win over the user to your favour, instead of following the guideline I quoted, per WP policy. Jimthing (talk) 17:55, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Both articles protected at WP:THEWRONGVERSION. Now settle it on the talkpage before someone faster on the block button comes around. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

That depends on the other editor discussing in good faith. The last few hours doesn't suggest that will happen, but we'll see. --Drmargi (talk) 18:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Can you stop being so rude. I have discussed it quite calmly. You instead keep attacking the man and not the argument. Ad hominem attacks only make you look bad. Jimthing (talk) 18:59, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

You Want to Consider my Unban Request?

Hi, I noticed your RFA and looked it over. Not flattering you but I think it's impressive to be able to have repeat successful RFAs. A lot of admins that lose their status, it's an impossibility to regain it because they've acquired, wrongly or more often rightly I think, people that know them and oppose it vigorously. We have nothing in common by your RFA, but it seems to me at first glance that the renaming of the Santorum neologism article was a good solution. That was an awful controversy and I disagree with making fun of people's names, however it is also true that Sen. Santorum made deeply harmful and insulting statements about gays. From your userpage we also don't have much in common that I see, however as a child I was a mediocre clarinetist, then a pretty good bass clarinetist, then the world's worst bassoonist because I undertook an experiment basically to play a beat-up old one that was laying around and then the band director wouldn't let me out of it.

Would you have a look at my ban? I was perma-blocked without warning on a false charge of socking like three years ago and never have been able to dig out. I view my unblock efforts as being repetitively bullied by bad admins, and attacked by unreasoning mobs at WP:AN/ANI. When I go to Arbcom, they typically decline without reason. The first time that happened, Silktork said a full year later, that he viewed me as the sock of some mysterious banned other user that he always refused to name. But at the time he told me nothing. More recently I was formerly banned by a WP:AN/ANI mob, the unique aspect of that was that none of them gave a reason. That was ringleadered by "Dangerous Panda" whose since been desysoped for conduct unbecoming (didn't help me though). I appealed to Arbcom last month, was declined without reason. Perhaps you'll agree with me that no-reason bans are improper and counter-policy.

Anyhow, I shouldn't type a volume at your page. The key points are that I had a prior account for five or six years that I abandoned for privacy reasons. I started a single new account as I said about three years ago, accidentally ran into trouble after a few months with the WP:AN/ANI-style participants (an horrifying alternate side of Misplaced Pages I had no idea existed), and was perma-blocked by an admin who wasn't ever going to talk about it. Since then I still have never socked, but have clearly-disclosed-username block-evaded with raw IP edits in order to seek fair and policy-based treatment, which has not been forthcoming yet.

If you are crazy enough to help you might unblock merely my page only, and we'll talk about it without my having to block evade. Colton Cosmic.

Well that's one quick route to desysopping. --NeilN 21:40, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
But a brave and honorable one. Colton Cosmic.
I may on occasion think of myself as brave and honorable, but at the moment, I'm paranoid as all get-out. If the new Arbcom denied your appeal, I'm not going to paint a huge honking target on myself. Sorry. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:47, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I was not being offensive: reply of a warning

"You could warn me, but my mortification on the terrible bullying I'm receiving from that user is so obnoxious and corrupt."


This is what I said. Now, as you could see, I referred to the bullying, not the user, that was obnoxious (dangerously annoying) and corrupt (unfair). How could this be a personal offense? I have not insulted the user, I have simply described the user's bullying. Maybe it was grammar confusion, but this is how it goes:


"You could warn me, but my mortification on the terrible bullying (I'm receiving from that user) is so obnoxious and corrupt."


Is it still an offense now? HanSangYoon (talk) 04:30, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I understand the distinction you're trying to draw here, but in my experience, it's not a valid one. It's not possible to refer to an editor's "bullying" as corrupt without passing an implicit judgement on the editor themselves. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:40, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

How come there's no warning for Walruss?

@SarekOfVulcan:, please check this:

"Your arguments are full of holes, and they continue to show a closed-minded ignorance of Misplaced Pages editing concepts (see WP:Other stuff exists for example), but I am through wasting my time arguing with you. "
I find this statement pretty offensive. Isn't there supposed to be a warning towards Walruss?? HanSangYoon (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

It's a bit blunt, but I don't think it rises to the level of a personal attack. Making fun of someone's username, though, as you did twice above, could be considered one, though. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:03, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

-en-admins

Done. Cheers =) --slakr 21:18, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

UTRS

I noticed that you had an active UTRS account, but it was made inactive after your admin bit was removed. Now that you are back in our cozy little cabal, I have reactivated your UTRS account as a matter of procedure (since there is no reason for it to be inactive anymore). You are free to use it actively, when needed, or not at all. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 04:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) Now I have to remember how to use the dratted thing. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 05:01, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Or not, as you see fit. You had zero closed appeals even during your first admin term, nothing's forcing you to take on more now. UTRS access is just useful every once in a while if you need to read an appeal. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 05:43, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for the addition to my talk page. Here is a beer because it must get pretty hot on your planet! GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

The reason why I reverted the route map for Busan Metro Line 1

1) The route map is inaccurate. There are stations on the map that shows there is going to be a route to the north- no official announcements has been made for that section- even a consideration. Also, the southern extension's names are not official yet; the image is clearly off.


2) That image shows no aboveground or underground information unlike the route map. There is also no way to add on structures and details that is along or on the route.


3) The article has been worsened with replacing a more functional, same route map with a less functional one- this means the image insertion is a degradation. Terramorphous and I have made this map (along with another user), so we are accurate on what we made.


HanSangYoon (talk) 05:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Puzzling AN3 complaint

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:HanSangYoon reported by User:ColonialGrid (Result: ). If you know anything about this dispute, could you add some information to the AN3 complaint? Passing admins may not want to close it because it's too mystifying. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Since I was one of the editors HanSangYoon reverted, I have no comment as to the merits of the complaint at this time. I do note that he self-reverted his last edit, though. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm sorry about the loss of Spock.--198.201.23.10 (talk) 19:19, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I doubt I ever saw any first-run episodes, but the reruns were a large part of my childhood... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Sad event indeed. Well, I suppose Spock Mk II is still around. Or is he 'Alt Spock' or 'Nu Spock'? --220 of 07:39, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Quick note

Thanks for your note; I've responded. Nyttend (talk) 03:55, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Didn't get it.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:32, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
I used Special:Emailuser, so it went to the address you've put in Special:Preferences. I got the normal "email sent" screen, so I don't think I made any mistakes. Nyttend (talk) 05:12, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Worked that time. *shrug* --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 05:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I was trying to do the same

but kept getting e/c'd. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:23, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I had the same problem. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:24, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Protest against heavy-handed blocking of the Bitcoin article.

In my opinion your two week block of the Bitcoin page is rather heavy-handed. Spock would not have approved. Kraainem (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraainem (talk • contribs) 19:46, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Surely you can block the editor/s doing the harm? You have God-like blocking powers, don´t you? And you certainly do use your absolute blocking powers like the God of Blocking! So, use your Godly blocking powers on the culprit editor/s. Can you not? Don´t tell me you are, in fact, impotent in blocking them? I would never believe you. Why block the article? That looks really stupid to me. You seem to have lost your logic ability as a result of being the God of Blocking . #IamCharlie Kraainem (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraainem (talk • contribs) 21:49, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Blocking IPs is frequently not effective - it's too easy to jump to the next one. Semi-protection is more effective. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Kraainem (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraainem (talk • contribs) 22:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

String or Precusision

You win this round Sarek. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aedw3089 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

It's not about winning. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 03:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit to William Shatner

Hi SarkeOfVulcan,

The IRS relates directly to the parodied video that Shatner commented on in his tweet. Hope this information helps

SocialMediaSlaveSocialmediaslave (talk) 19:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but what you added indicates that it's a parody of Trek in general, rather than Shatner in particular. Therefore, I don't think it belongs in his article. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)