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To-do list for Muhammad Ali: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2023-12-10

  • In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
  • Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
  • Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
  • In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
  • Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself:
    "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
    The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
  • The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.


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"Unlike many boxers, he was raised in a supportive, African American middle-class family."

Remove, please.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.211.104.61 (talk) 10:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Presidential Citizens Medal

I believe the section on this page saying that Bush gave Ali both the Presidential Citizens Medal and the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2005 is mistaken - Ali received the Citizens Medal from Clinton in 2001, and the only cited websites for those sentences only reference him receiving the Medal of Freedom.NotAaronC.Hughes (talk) 00:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Rosa Ali removed

As per this article about a hoax that inserted "rosa ali" into the article (diff here), the following edit was made by @Gobonobo: to remove a 10 year-old inaccuracy. -- Fuzheado | Talk 12:34, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Closer to 8 years, but who's counting? :) Seriously, this was a pretty reprehensible act by Deacon. But it demonstrates how sneaky vandalism can get, and that we need to try harder to weed it out at the earliest possible point. If any statement of fact seems even the slightest off-the-wall, and it doesn't have a cite, it should at least have {{Citation needed}} slapped next to it. Stevie is the man! 13:30, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
The insertion included a youth club, a rose and a child. I have removed "A youth club in Ali's hometown was named after him." -- PBS (talk) 19:08, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
That's the only part that rung true, but alas, without a cite, it should be gone too. I'm not sure if there's such a club or not. Stevie is the man! 19:19, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
  1. "President Clinton Awards the Presidential Citizens Medals". http://clinton5.nara.gov/. The White House. Retrieved 4 January 2015. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help)
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