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A beer for you!

Just saw Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_adminship/Oshwah_2. Good luck, you'll need it. I reckon you can make it through :). Omni Flames (talk) 11:45, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Omni Flames! Thanks for the beer and for the good luck wishes! It'll be up shortly, and we'll see what happens :-). ~Oshwah~ 11:47, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Good luck! ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 12:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Best of luck Oshwah - I'll be supporting! Zero 14:25, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your support. I means a lot :-) ~Oshwah~ 14:30, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

You deserve it, I've added my support! RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:12, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Godspeed with your RfA! -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, LuK3! Wish me luck! :-) ~Oshwah~ 16:19, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Posh, Oshwah, you drinking already? '''Oppose''' User clearly does not know when to party. I will be proven right when Oshwah has a ball and winds up blocking himself . ~~~~ —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Haha, K6ka! :-D I had no clue Salvidrim! had blocked himself before. Made my day! Zero 18:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

One was on a matter of principle. The other was more a matter of vodka. ;) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 18:55, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

That is hilarious, Salvidrim!! :-) Mind you, I'd probably do the same eventually if I ever became an admin. And I don't drink. Zero 20:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Good luck with your RfA Oshwah! I gave you a very strong support, because I think you absolutely deserve to be an administrator. Class455 (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

You are doing brilliantly, I am certain you will succeed this time! (Seven more !votes and you'll have 100 supporters.) Zero 15:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Let's see, that's 128 yes's against 18 nos and dunnos. I I I think you got it. Slight Smile 13:30, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Two articles on Prof. Joyonti Chutia

Hey Oshwah, you have just reverted an editing that I have made to Joyanti Sutiya. Actually the Word Sutiya is a spelling mistake, so I wanted to correct this mistake. (It was not my mistake as you thought) . The word 'Sutiya' should be 'Chutia' (as I know Prof. Joyonti Chutia personally). Further, I have noticed that there is one other article as Joyanti Chutia. The content of both the pages are almost same. So, both the articles should be merged into one. ~Bikash Sharma 10:30, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Comment. I came to this talkpage to drop another message and noticed this. Her actual name is "Joyanti Chutia" as per the official website and hence the article to be related is Joyanti Chutia. I am placing merge tags on the pages. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

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RfA

Hello Oshwah, I don't believe that we have interacted in the past (except editing common pages). Just wanted to wish you all the best for the RfA. You are a good candidate, have my support and will make a good admin. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:07, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Pinning off of this header - I think I just missed you on IRC. I'm away on holiday, so my !vote was a lot less than I would have liked to have written. Best of luck to you, don't take criticism to heart (though always reflect on it!) and I'll see you on the other side when I return, hopefully with you having a couple of extra buttons to click! -- samtar 21:55, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

The RfA has been tough, but you look like you'll succeed. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 23:17, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

And it did! Wow did I not think it would! Thanks for the beer and the encouragement. As you can imagine, that RfA was stressful. Whew.... :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Some wrong news about jammu and kashmir

Jammu and kashmir is the territory area between Pakistan and india.But this is due to injustice of some high authorities.who don't want to kashmir in Pakistan.But in kashmir Muslims are mostly setteled more than other religions.But now india claims that kashmir is india.But how about the kashmiri's brothers.They are the Muslims. During partition it was decided that Muslims population areas are added to pakistan and hindu population areas are added to india.so now what is this.This is injustice with Pakistan and kashmiri.Kashmiri's want to collaborate with the Pakistan then why india be a dog between two Muslims brotherhood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.97.140 (talk) 05:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Unconstrutive edit

I never made an edit to the page in question? I don't think I have ever been on that page at all actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.109.111.204 (talk) 03:48, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi there! If you're using a public or shared IP address, it's possible that you may be getting warnings due to the edits of other people. Consider creating an account in order to avoid this. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Your RfA

It seems to be running a similar course as mine did. Hopefully that's not the case, but mine ended with an oppose-fest near the end of the RfA. Good luck.—_{Chat:Limited Access} 18:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Sadly it seems like that's what's happening. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 01:04, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

And now you are in the discretionary zone.—_Chat:Online 16:58, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

*fingers crossed* - there are some good points being raised, but I think you'd get through a 'crat chat... Most importantly, don't take things to heart -- samtar 17:01, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

You seem to be on course to just barely make it through. You'll probably make it through the crat cat, the percentage just has to stay over 68% or so, and you'll most likely get in. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 18:29, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

My RfA failed at 74%, so staying out of the discretionary zone is the only way to guarantee adminship. :/—_{Chat:Limited Access} 19:34, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Well, Oshwah, whatever happens, you have a large number of supports from some really strong editors and administrators. Either way, all the best to you. Drmies (talk) 14:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Drmies :-) ~Oshwah~ 14:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

20 minutes to go at 75%. I'll congratulate you right now. :D—_Chat:Online 15:48, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

About your week of hell....

Oshwah's week of hell finally ends has started. (refresh) Tom29739 23:55, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Apology

Oshwah, sorry for not apologizing earlier in the year, as I forgot about the situation.

I apologize for messing up the Interstate 65 page.

First, I apologize for not explaining my edits. I had never considered the importance of explaining my edits briefly, as I was relatively new to Misplaced Pages.

Next, I apologize for not helping to the situation and explain what happened. I was trying to add new information regarding the new Abraham Lincoln bridge on the route. Since there was someone else editing the page at a time, it corrupt the page and lost some information. I had no knowledge of this happening, as I never saw anything wrong.

Oshwah, thank you for your work on Misplaced Pages and requesting to talk to me about this situation. I profusely apologize for not apologizing and explaining earlier. I promise to remember this advise and to do better on Misplaced Pages from that point on. I hope you can forgive me for this mess.

Best wishes J.K. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.137.65 (talk) 05:13, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

No apologies are needed :-)! That edit was clear back in February; we all make mistakes. I simply messaged you to let you know. If you need anything, please ask. I'll be happy to assist you. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:18, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Alcohol, the cause of and solution to, the world's problems.

I don't know how your current RfA will shake out. I want you to know that ORCP was designed to anticipate and highlight issues to prevent bloody RfA's like yours. We failed you this time. In the past we've had Wikipedians just quit after rough RfAs and all of us involved in editor retention want to avoid that. This project runs on great volunteers like you and not being universally liked or not being the best fit for a mop doesn't lessen your value to the project. Not everyone can be Anne Delong. That said, regardless of how your RfA ends no one is going to remember this RfA unless you show up at RfA again. We as a community get persnickety with these lifetime appointments and that hesitancy hurts feelings sometimes. Your good editing speaks for itself and that's the real measure of who you are as an editor. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Chris troutman. I wanted to respond and thank you for the encouragement and for the kind words. Although I'm probably going to be disappointed with the outcome of the RfA, all I can do is learn from what the community has said, take the feedback to heart, and honor the promises I made (which, are very easy promises to be honest - Don't NAC close unblock requests, and don't clerk AIV). After your second RfA, it's nearly impossible to pass another one (at least not in a very long time). I don't really know what to say about that, as many have asked about my "contingency plan" if this were not to go through. I don't really have one... haha. I guess I'll keep doing what I'm doing (as I enjoy what I do and that won't change), make the improvements and changes I've been asked to make, and take things from there. I enjoy volunteering to the project, and that's not going to change :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:17, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

My unanswered question

Don't give up, - answer my question and you may win one support more. I thought you answered the first too fast, but too slow doesn't make me support ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gerda Arendt! My apologies. You're all set -- question answered. :-) ~Oshwah~ 14:00, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for trying, and good enough for neutral ;). However, it doesn't answer the question how the arb case comes into play for the scenario. One possible answer would be to modify the answer to q4. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt - I think the expanded answer I just inserted might be what you were looking to see? ~Oshwah~ 14:27, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what I want to see ;) - Pigsonthewing would be none of the editors in the scenario, trust me. He knows what to avoid. - If there's no connection between the arb case and the scenario better strike it in the answer to q4. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt. I'm a fool. I see what I should have said now. All of the remedies were rescinded. So it's irrelevant. ~Oshwah~ 15:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

I shouldn't support someone who calls himself a fool, but will ;) - back in a moment. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

ok, got an edit conflict with another support. - When the excitement is over, contemplate the one thing from the infoboxes case: "All editors are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions about infoboxes, and to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general." Admin or not: when you see a scenario like the one Ritchie gave you, a reminder of this doesn't hurt, even if not living up to it will not be sanctioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations

Well done to our newest admin, do us proud Oshwah -- samtar 16:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations for adminship !! CAPTAIN RAJU 17:45, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Yippee ki-yay, motherfucker! Dat Guy_Contribs 16:58, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations Oshwah. Make us proud! - Mr X 17:00, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats, Oshwah. :-) Keep the concerns of the opposers in your mind, but I believe that you're going to be a fine administrator. Cheers, Ed 17:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations! I'm glad you were successful. Gap9551 (talk) 17:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Ditto from me! That must have been quite a harrowing experience. Now get to work! :) Favonian (talk) 17:07, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations, and well done. Thank you for your enthusiasm for this wonderful project. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:08, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations! I was actually looking forward to an interesting CratChat but you made it clean. Do take all the comments to heart. Ask for lots of advice as you wade into the muck with your mop. Also, beware of Mike V. I predict he's going to try to drag you into SPI. Cheers, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) WER 17:12, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Curses! My plan has been revealed! ;) Mike V • Talk 17:14, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

After SPI, we're ready to go take over Russia once and for all!. Dat Guy_Contribs 17:17, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

I am joining the chorus of congrats O. Even though it was harrowing I know that the mop and pail are in good hands. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 17:16, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations Oshwah! That is sure a close one. 75%! Jianhui67 17:25, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats, Oshwah. That was one heck of a ride there towards the end. Keep up the good work. clpo13_(talk) 17:27, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations, Oshwah, and well done for sticking through what was surely a stressful RFA with good humor intact. I wish you the best of luck: you certainly have plenty of good advice from the RFA that should stand you in good stead. Vanamonde (talk) 18:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations Oshwah!! You will make a great administrator. -- Dane2007 19:30, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations on adminship, I know you will do well with the mop! -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:45, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats, Oshwah. Even though I decided to change my vote, I still think that you'll do just fine, and feel free to ping me for advice or assistance if you like. For access to the admin IRC channel, please see WP:IRC##wikipedia-en-admins and the request section lower on the page. —DoRD (talk) 23:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so, so much for the love and support, everyone. I've been honored to serve you as a Misplaced Pages editor since 2007, and it will be a privilege to begin serving you as a Misplaced Pages administrator. I will take all of the feedback to heart, and I won't let any of you down. You have my word :-) ~Oshwah~ 05:28, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Congratulations on your successful RFA Oshwah! This cup of coffee is to help you sober up, because intoxicated admins are bad for business. Also, you still have lots of unpaid overtime work to do, so keep caffeinating until the jitters come... and we'll see what we'll do with you later. Thank you, --Your Manager —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations and best wishes for your new job! Mona778 (talk) 17:03, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Congratulations on your successful RFA, Oshwah! I was worried the outcome would not be desirable once the oppose !voters came piling on. Thankfully the outcome could not have been better! I am incredibly happy for you, and I know you will be an excellent admin. You deserve this Barnstar. :-) Zero 17:04, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

congratulations!

Congratulations on your successful RFA!
In a self-proclaimed RFA tradition, allow me to impart the words of wisdom I received from the puppy after my RFA passed –
nine long, sordid, I-really-should-have-found-a-better-hobby years ago:

Remember you will always protect the wrong version. (I got nothing here. It's inevitable.)
Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. Without exception, you will pick the wrong one to do. (See #5.)
Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. (You'll attract many more of those now, because mop. They must like to drink the dirty water in the bucket.)
Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block, because really, what else is there to live for?
Remember that when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. It will not be a personal attack because we are admins and, therefore, we are all rouge anyway.
Finally, remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. :-)

Katie 17:06, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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You are now an administrator

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the Administrators' guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 17:07, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Oshwah congratulations on your successful RFA. That was one of the worst I've seen in a long time. I can't imagine how you feel considering I remember being so relieved after mine which I do not even think fair to remotely compare. I wish you all the best and if you ever need a hand or a second opinion, feel free to ping me. Regards, Mkdw 01:08, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Grab one and have fun! :) —UY Scuti 17:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Congratulations on making administrator! Good luck! Woodstop45 (talk) 17:16, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Congratulations on the promotion to the Imperial Court. :-) Sunny Side Up (talk) 17:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Your Complimentary Welcome Package

	The Wordsmith's Mop and Bucket Award
	Congratulations on making it through the RFA meat grinder! You'll be needing one of these. Now get to work! The Wordsmith 17:34, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Congrats! You're an Admin! ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 17:40, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Congratulations to you Oshwah! :-) SA 13 Bro (talk) 18:21, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Well done

Congratulations on the RfA. It may have been a little early, which might be why it was looking tight for a moment, but I'm glad you passed. But please do remember my advice—take things easy to start with and ask someone if you're not sure. If there's one thing I've learnt over the years, it's that it's easy to find yourself caught in the middle of something by rushing in trying to help and missing the wider context; it's also easy to piss people off and get them leaving angry messages on you talk page or hauling you to ANI, which wastes time you could have spent whacking vandals or writing articles. All the best, and good luck! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:27, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, congrats, dude! That was mostly unfair, but I'm glad you made it. Some of the 'Neutral' comments are probably worth paying attention to going forward. But congrats on getting through on the second go-round. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:53, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats from me to. RFA is a moody and variable place, try to put all the nastiness of the last few days behind you. When you get bored of scrabbling down the back of the sofa for the right block message to go with each block, have a look at my monobook.js. A very kind person put some code in there that gives a really nifty dropdown menu. Ϣere SpielChequers 20:11, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations! Best of luck, Mz7 (talk) 20:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations! Hard to say which of these sections in which to put a comment with the various congratulations pouring in. I guess that is a reflection of 189 support !votes! 272 !votes overall, quite a turnout. I know you will do a great job and will be especially helpful at AIV. Good luck. Donner60 (talk) 21:13, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations! It was a squeaker! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:18, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you :-). I'll be the best and most neutral admin I can be. I won't let any of you down.... I promise :-) ~Oshwah~ 07:47, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Congratulations on your successful RfA Oshwah. I knew you'd be an admin some day. The one thing I'll miss is seeing your reports on AIV, but now you can do something ten times better, blocking vandals! I look forward to working with you over in the counter vandal department with you in the advanced role! Well done again mate! See you round. Class455 (talk) 18:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

@Class455: I won't miss his AIV reports. Oshwah being an admin means less work for me! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:22, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

@HJ Mitchell: 😂😂. Class455 (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

I want to be your first block

Greetings Oshwah and congrats again on the promotion. I hope you see this before anyone else does because I want to volunteer to be your first block. Kumioko/Reguyla Sunny Side Up (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Congrats on passing your RfA! —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 20:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats as well from me. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Yet another gift!

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Congrats on becoming an admin! Tom29739 21:16, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Admin topicon

Want some unsolicited advice?! – The Admin userbox is enough on Admin user pages; where I'd use the {{Administrator topicon}} is on your Talk page... FWIW! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:18, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

He can't hear you. He's sleeping. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:06, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Congratulations!

EvergreenFir (talk) 21:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Congratulation on your ~~demotion~~ promotion! I wish more admins were like you! BTW: If you ever see an RFA from me, I would strongly recommend that you indef me. Jim1138 (talk) 00:56, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Adminship

Well first off congratulations buddy! Now use that mop wisely! Now I'm going to give you some advice that a former US President lived by, "Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick" - Theodore Roosevelt --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ 01:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Bro, me and my friends give you a hearty congratulations on your successful adminship. I toast to you. Lets have a great drink and be buddies forever and ever!!!

I hope you liked my dance off videos that I made. My friend recorded this. EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:16, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

MAKE WIKIPEDIA GREAT AGAIN

Cheers. Sn1per (talk) 01:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

"When anonymous editors save their edits, they're not sending their best... They're sending edits that have lots of problems, and they're bring more problems with them. They're bringing socks. They're bringing copyvios. They're vandals. And some, I assume, are good edits."
"We're going to build a log, and it's going to be a real log."
"Oshwah is calling for a total and complete shutdown of paid editors from editing Misplaced Pages..."
"I have a great relationship with the content creators. I've always had a great relationship with the content creators."
"Look at my edit count, is that a small edit count? And, they referred to my edit count -- 'if that's small, something else must be small.' I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee."
"If they get to pick their reverts, nothing you can do folks. Although the sock master people -- maybe there is. I don't know."
"I know a lot of editors. I know the best editors."
"The log just got ten users longer."
— The Osh

Congrats on your new mop.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 02:59, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Are we going to build a wall between us and Commons and are we going to make Commons pay for it? —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 03:13, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

LOL I couldn't stop LAUGHING when I first saw this section. Keep up the awesome images; they put a smile on my face :-) ~Oshwah~ 05:30, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, these Admins Barnstars are a little like Obamas Nobel peaceprice... Still, congrats! Tomorrow the WORLD!!! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Loving the political manifesto! Oshwah for President? 😂 Zero 07:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

He´s not a crook!! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:07, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

"I've had a lot of edit wars of my own. I'm really good at edit wars. I love edit wars in a certain way. But only when we win." GAB 01:06, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For your hard work, dedication and decent behaviour. Mona778 (talk) 05:36, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats?

Congratulations on your unpaid lateral promotion! You will need good tools. Check out my common.js and take what you need, and seek out more tools from other admins. Good show! Cyphoidbomb 05:50, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Congratulation for passing RfA! Happy mopping at Misplaced Pages!

NgYShung 07:27, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Congratulations are in order :) Omni Flames (talk) 07:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Congrats on your adminship. It's a harrowing process, so, go out and celebrate. David.moreno72 08:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on becoming a Misplaced Pages administrator! 166.137.96.130 (talk) 09:14, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

your mistake

Hi there!

You sent a message to me re-tampering with a post about Peter Cosgrove. Have never tried to edit a post about him so I'm not sure where you get this idea from. In fact I haven't tried to edit ANY posts in ages. So sorry, but you're wrong. Wasn't me. 1.144.96.165 (talk) 11:35, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) As IP addresses often 'change hands', it's likely this warning was meant for someone else. You can see the contributions your IP has made by visiting this page. If you would like to avoid messages like this in the future you can create an account -- samtar 11:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Who doesn't like a cupcake? Anyway, even though I leaned to neutral in the end I have the utmost faith you'll do an excellent job as an admin. Congrats of succeeding in your RfA and the best of luck to you! RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:22, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Congratulations on gaining some extra pixels to make your tireless efforts to keep Misplaced Pages tidy even easier - sure you'll do a fantastic job! Mike1901 (talk) 12:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

London Play - Deleted Page

HI Oshwah,

None of the material we submitted was promotional, but was describing the charity.

Can you tell me how we set up a page for a charity, and how we change the username.

Thanks

Leo — Preceding unsigned comment added by LondonPlay (talk • contribs) 13:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @LondonPlay: You can read about changing your username here. If you have an email address registered against your account, you can use this simple method to request the change. If not, you will need to follow these instructions. Oshwah will likely respond soon regarding your concerns about the deleted article -- samtar 13:23, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

LondonPlay - Your user page was being used for advertising purposes, which is not the proper use per Misplaced Pages's user page content guidelines. I highly recommend that you follow the advice above and have your account renamed, and then visit Misplaced Pages's new user tutorial to begin learning how to contribute and how we operate. I also recommend that you read Misplaced Pages's five pillars, as it's our core policies and principles and important for you to understand. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the guidelines and tutorials that I've sent you. I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you for understanding and for taking the time to contribute according to our policies and guidelines. :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:37, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Cheers! GAB 14:48, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

GeneralizationsAreBad - Ahh, I always love a cold one. You know me too well ;-). Thanks, man! I hope you have a great day and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Block templates

Hi Oshwah, hope you're enjoying the first days of being an admin, trust your enjoying it! Just wanted to let you know that the block templates you've added when blocking a user does not come up with your signature for some reason. Is this a problem with TW or do you have to sign normally when you place a block template on a user page? Class455 (talk) 15:59, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Class455! I noticed that too. I've been blocking and adding the templates manually (no automation tools, in order to take things slow); I think it's because I need to add my signature to the inside or the end of the templates. Thanks for the heads up; I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually :-P ~Oshwah~ 16:12, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

You can add the sig=yes parameter to make your signature appear inside the block template. Also, when adding protection templates, you can add the small=yes parameter so that the lock icon appears at the top right of the page. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 16:40, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

AHA! Nice! Thanks, MRD2014! :-D ~Oshwah~ 16:48, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

@Oshwah: I thought the templates were inserted automatically when you block someone using TW? Class455 (talk) 17:00, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Class455 - They are, but I'm not using Twinkle. I'm doing blocks and adding block notice templates completely manually for the time being. :-) ~Oshwah~ 17:18, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Oshwah! I'm late to the party, but my sincere congrats on your successful RfA! Glad to have you on the team :) I do highly recommend you use Twinkle to not only add block templates, but to do the actual blocking. Use TW > Block on any user-like page, fill out the form (you'll almost always want to use a preset) and it will block+template in seconds. I'm selling it hard, mostly because the module was written by yours truly, but also it really is a time-saver and ensures appropriate templates and block options were used in accordance with conventions. It means less mistakes and more time to focus on things that can't be automated. Learning to do stuff the hard way is good, but don't keep it that way! I also noticed you're manually responding to reports, when User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper exists :) Okay, I wrote that one too... no need to feel obligated to use my stuff, but do have a look at WP:ADMINTOOLS and decide for yourself what best fits your workflow. Hope this helps, and my door is always open if you need assistance. Cheers — MusikAnimal 20:22, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

You have to substitute the block template in order for the signature to appear. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 00:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

AHA! I just found out the hard way, lol! Thanks MRD2014! :-D ~Oshwah~ 00:05, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Got to love MusikAnimal's subtle advertising here. :-) I've been meaning to ask you something for a while now about responseHelper, actually. Is there a version for non-admins? I occasionally tag false positives made by DQB on UAA, but I can see a few other potential uses, too. Thanks in advance, Zero 12:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

It's not really intended for non-admins, hence the message at UAA that says Please note that only administrators should close reports, and non-administrators are kindly asked not to comment on reports unless they believe that the closing administrators are likely to miss important information. The same is more or less true at other noticeboards (Oshwah knows this!! :), though simple comments are harmless I think. Anyway if you do close straightforward reports, the responseHelper script will still work as-is. You don't have to be an admin to use it — MusikAnimal 18:16, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Ah, thanks MusikAnimal. I think I was told by another admin that I could decline bot FP's, and only that. Still I'll install the script, as I think it'll prove useful, thanks once again. Zero 19:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats!

Thank you for enduring the drill at RfA - it paid off and this is one content editor who is truly happy it did!! Best of luck! 18:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Congrats on your RFA! I voted support but moved to neutral while leaning support and planning going through a CratChat. Also, good luck! hehe. ;) KGirlTrucker81 19:58, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

No subject

Hi Oshwah this information is incorrect and i was never charged with these charges and I would like this info taking down asap as it is not good for my career. Regards. Jason harris wright — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.174.8.249 (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi there! If you are who you claim to be, you need to contact the Volunteer Response Team by clicking here. They have the proper tools and training to verify your identify and assist you with your concerns. Thank you. ~Oshwah~ 23:15, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Oshwah, I researched the accusations and the material that was included in the BLP was noncompliant with WP:BLP for several reasons beginning with the policy requirement for adding contentious material, especially that which may be libelous. I found only one source per allegation neither of which meets WP:BLP. I determined that it was best to remove the material until multiple RS can be cited to support inclusion of such information. I ask that you please carefully consider why I took such action, and will ultimately agree that it was the right thing to do. Thank you. 18:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Atsme - Excellent! Thank you for taking a look and for fixing the article to be in compliance with BLP. My initial concerns were with COI content removal and I intended to take a look at the content and check, but I got side-tracked with that stupid "real life" stuff and didn't manage to get to it. Again, thanks for taking that on and for fixing the article. :-) ~Oshwah~ 18:45, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. I understand part of what you've been through in recent weeks, and was happy to help.

18:49, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

HAHA! Yeah... my RfA was..... *sigh*... quite a doozy. I heard that some editors and admins had a few good betting pools going. With just how narrow of a margin that my RfA managed to pass by, I'm sure I gave them a good game. :-P ~Oshwah~ 19:00, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Congrats!

Heyy Oshwah! I know that this isn't really a place to put this, but congrats for adminship. I've taken a look at the RFA, and I'm glad that it went well. I would have voted support for you if I hadn't decreased my activity here or missed it.

You were the first person I actually contacted here over a tiny issue about vandalism when I was just starting. And you were the reason that I stayed. I remember that I was nervous for your response because I was undoing a bit of edits after looking at Recent Changes hehe. And you were the one to point out to me what I was doing wrong (in good faith) when I had an issue with the IP hopper's talk page. I'm glad I have someone to count on here when I have any issues :).

Keep editing and contributing Oshwah! You change lives! :D

-Primetime (talk) 02:52, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

3primetime3 - I'm so happy that you stayed. We need more editors like you, and I'm honored to be given your trust :-) ~Oshwah~ 08:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

hey wauz up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.105.99.154 (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations

Hey Oshwah! Congratulations on your successful RFA. (At least yours went better than mine did...) I know we've worked together on the Account Creation Team for awhile now and I have no doubt you'll be an excellent admin as well. RegistryKey 03:43, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

eager to help

Thank you for quality articles such as Windows Push Notification Service and contibuting to Sakurai's Object, for fighting vandalism, for quoting "Raise your words, not your voice." and living up to it in your RfA, and for "I'm here to help you!!", - software engineer described as "calm, courteous, thoughtful, and eager to go the extra mile for others", you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

IPv6

Hi Oshwah. FYI, many (most?) non-mobile ISPs using IPv6 will assign an entire /64 block of addresses to each subscriber. This block, while merited, won't do much good because next time they edit, they'll probably have a different address out of the /64. Rangeblocks of Comcast, Time Warner/Roadrunner, AT&T/U-verse /64s will rarely affect anyone other than the intended target. Mobile IPv6 addresses are even more difficult to handle, unfortunately, because the ranges are much larger and are shared by thousands of subscribers. —DoRD (talk) 13:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi DoRD! Good call. I think it was the right decision at the time, as it was clearly needed in order to stop the disruption. However, you are correct regarding the distribution of IPs for mobile devices from mobile data networks (especially LTE); since mobile users travel frequently, IPs on a device will often change from tower-to-tower or due to a low Fast Dormancy state on the device (an article I actually wrote, lolol). They're often not the easiest to handle, and it's a good thing to take into account when reviewing an IP for administrator action :-). Thanks for the coaching and the input; I appreciate this, especially given the fact that I'm very much "the newbie" ;-) ~Oshwah~ 14:21, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

User 174.26.64.15

I see you have threatened this guy with loss of editing privileges. Now he is harassing me on my talk page, and I have no idea who he is. So, can we drag him before the powers that be and get it over with? I've never tried to get someone blocked before, so I have no idea where to start. Sbrianhicks (talk) 17:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Oshwah is the powers that be, see the congratulations on his recent adminship above! But he doesn't seem to be online right at this moment, so I've blocked the IP for 31 hours. Bishonen | talk 17:21, 31 August 2016 (UTC).

Awesome! Thank you, Bishonen, for taking care of that. I'm sorry that the user started trolling up your talk page, Sbrianhicks. If it makes you feel better, my talk page gets trolled, vandalized, and trashed up pretty much daily, and multiple times. On a side note, be careful with responses such as this. Even if it doesn't encourage the user to harass and troll you more, it certainly gives him a full stomach and with food he likes. :-) ~Oshwah~ 18:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Bishonen, thanks! I didn't look at Oshwah's page or talk page before I added that, but yeah, it's very obvious he's an administrator now. As they used to say when I was middle school, "my bad." As far as me calling the vandal "sweetheart," who doesn't love a slight bit of sarcasm? I figured it was a good way to make him mad without being a dick. I mean I let him know I couldn't care less what he thought without actually being rude. However given that you have authority here, I should probably listen to you. So there will be less sarcasm from me. I actually don't have a whole lot of experience with interacting with other editors. I usually just make light edits to pages/correct simple errors as I read articles. And half the time people are dicks and revert serious edits and won't listen to my side, so I don't even bother arguing. So this came out of nowhere to me. Furthermore, from the way the guy was talking, I assumed he was a kid who is on the extreme right, happened to see my article and that I disagreed with his views, so felt like harrassing me. I generally won't put someone down or even explain dickery to someone who is under 16 or so, so I just let him know I didn't care and moved on.

Also, while I have you, how do I request to change my username, while keeping my userpage and contribution history? I've decided it's probably not a good idea to use my real name. Thanks! Sbrianhicks (talk) 02:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Sbrianhicks - Do not let the fact that I have administrator user rights lead you to believe that I hold any kind of "authority" at all. I was just giving you advice with dealing with trolls, as (coming from someone who deals with them daily), those responses will bite you in the butt -- they usually cause them to troll you more, forcing you to deal with more of their shenanigans :-). You can request a user name change here. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! :-D ~Oshwah~ 02:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Well, you can ban people, sounds like authority to me! But really, I usually have contempt for people with authority, so you should feel special. Special, darnit! And thanks for the help with the name change. I just realized I have no idea what to call myself ... And the code you use to display your username is really complicated. Sbrianhicks (talk) 03:05, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Me again with a different account name. I had my original account renamed, but now I can't login. It says my password is incorrect. What's going on? BrianSHicks (talk) 16:58, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

BrianSHicks - I see nothing on your (former?) account that would prevent you from logging into it. I think you might have forgotten your password. Did you register an email with the account? Did you try recovering it? ~Oshwah~ 17:08, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm sure the password is right, but it's telling me it's wrong. I will try recovering it. It won't allow me to do so now because I tried a password reset and it says I'm only allowed to do so once in 24 hours. BrianSHicks (talk) 00:54, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

My goal is to extablish good editing habits

My goal is to extablish good editing habits. --ʘsɦwɑɳ (talk) 19:43, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Just one note

When dealing with socks of Incorrigible Troll (the one who creates accounts containing "...is my homeboy"), please disable talk page access and email access because they will try and appeal. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 20:52, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

MRD2014 - Oh snap. Good call. :-) ~Oshwah~ 20:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Block of User:172.242.32.79

Is it possible that this block could be extended for quite a bit longer but perhaps as a soft block (so registered users could log in)? This IP editor has been active for months vandalizing and the last block was 31 hours. Thank you. -- Dane2007 01:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Dane2007 -

Done ~Oshwah~ 01:58, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

look at the EF logs at AIV

Hey - be sure you look at the edit filter logs when you're looking at IP edits at AIV. If the filter is set to 'disallow', it won't show up in the normal contributions. You declined one report tonight that has been tripping an edit filter today. Blocking for that is up to you, but I agree with Materialscientist that it's likely a school, and I would block for three to six months.

You're not used to looking at the deleted contributions and EF logs, and I know it takes getting used to. You're doing a great job, but don't be overly cautious. :-) Katie 01:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Katie! It's nice to see you again! Thank you for the feedback; having access to new stuff does take some getting-used-to :-). I saw the deleted contribs (the two edits made that were disallowed via the edit filter). I wasn't sure how blocking works when only edit filter trips exist as a rationale, so I decided to error on the side of caution and not proceed. However, if you feel that a school block should be set, by all means... please do :-). I'll get used to holding the mop; in the meantime, I'd much much rather be given feedback for AGF and for not blocking, as opposed to using the tools in situations that they should not have been :-D ~Oshwah~ 01:49, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I hear you. There's a uw template for tripping the edit filters; I don't use it that often but it's there if you need it. As for handling, if it's not a false positive, and there are certainly a fair share of those, you treat them just like you would a disruptive edit. Since this one has stopped for now I'll leave it alone, but just be aware in the future. Like I said, you're doing great! :-) Katie 01:58, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Katie - Awesome! Thanks for informing me on the consensus for taking action based on edits that trip filters. This is good information. I'll keep that in mind for sure. And I appreciate the compliment - I'm mostly familiar with process, but I still have a lot to learn now that I actually have those cute little extra buttons all over the history and contribs pages. I won't let you down, Katie! Keep in touch :-D ~Oshwah~ 02:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Kinda related, I've recently been reporting some of the worse offenders from the <filter dinged me??/> filter log - sometimes these editors have made 5/6 repeated edits to an article trying to <filter filtering/> it up, but these are all disallowed and thus the report seems to be for an editor with no contribs. Echoing Katie, and a plea from a mere EFM, please do block these! -- samtar 06:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

on that note, the filter has broken -- samtar 06:49, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Filters like Special:AbuseFilter/784 are for a vandalism trend, as opposed to long-term abuse, so there's no overwhelming need to block everyone who trips the filter. If they trip it over 10 times during a span of five minutes they are automatically reported to AIV, and I'll usually block in that case. Just make sure the filters they were tripping clearly shows they are here only to disrupt. On the other hand, as Katie said, if you review a report and see they've had 1 or 2 bad edits and have been warned, but a bunch of filter hits, you should take those into account. I'll usually append the language "see also filter log" in my block summary, so others will know that played a role in the decision to block. Blocking solely on filter hits (when there are no live edits) is acceptable too, and there's an option for this in Twinkle. Just ask yourself, is there a chance they'll find their way around the filter? Not blocking is just as fine, though – the filter is doing its job and there's no added expense of a user continually triggering it — MusikAnimal 16:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

WER

You noted your ability in mediating in disputes, - perhaps look at WER, where editors are missed whom I drove away, allegedly. Background: RfC for Noël Coward. More peace among those arguing would be nice, - I won't be one of them ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Help

Hi Oshwah,

Thank you for defending my created page, Onnit. It appears Zefr has a gripe against that company for some reason with such quick cold deletions -- which takes away from the inviting community feel of Misplaced Pages. I would love your help to remedy this situation if possible! My original article, as approved and published, features multiple primary source citations that were non-promotional. Big outlets like: Forbes, Inc., Austin Business Journals, Rolling Stone, Entrepreneur and a Journal of Medicine have covered the company. Also mentioned the "Clinical Study" as paid for by Onnit, no secret and all public info that I was able to gather through a simple search since it's been a controversial topic. Then, I thought this would be a great Misplaced Pages entry.

Would it be possible to have the user removed from editing the page? Marked for deletion seems harsh and other users seem to disagree with Zefr's edits. Onnit seems a prominent company, no? Help me understand if I have gone about the creation incorrectly despite it being accepted. I hope to continue being a positive contributor to Misplaced Pages. Many thanks!Orsto (talk) 13:36, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Orsto. I declined the speedy deletion tag that was placed on the article because it did not fall into any of the criterion cited in the tag. While the article may not fall into a deletion criterion that does not require a discussion per consensus, it may meet a deletion criterion that does require a discussion. Make sure that you read and understand what constitutes a company or organization as notable - this is where many articles that are of companies or organizations fall short, and it's important that you understand why this is. My decision to decline the speedy deletion tag does not imply nor come with any "ruling" or "judgment" regarding the article or any user who has edited it. It was simply because of the fact that the article was not eligible for speedy deletion under the rationales and criterion cited in the speedy deletion tag. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns. I'll be happy to assist you and point you in the right direction. Have a great rest of your day, and I wish you happy editing. ~Oshwah~ 17:16, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Someone you just blocked

FYI: Special:Contributions/Hipsydipseee seems to have been dumping copy-pastes of Solitude (album) all across formerly non-existent talkpages, user talkpages and userpages outside their own userspace. Can you just blast all pages they created into oblivion, or d'you want me to go & CSD-tag 'm? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 19:01, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind. Looks like you sent 'm to oblivion more or less the same moment I posted. XD AddWittyNameHere (talk) 19:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

AddWittyNameHere -

Done ~Oshwah~ 19:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Oh, and a belated congratulations on adminship, since I appear to have forgotten to do so before. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 19:05, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, AddWittyNameHere! I won't let you down :-) ~Oshwah~ 19:20, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) I wouldn't have supported if I thought otherwise, mind.

AddWittyNameHere (talk) 19:27, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Talk page deletion

Did you mean to delete the user talk page when you mass deleted Hipsydipseee's creations?--Jezebel's Ponyo 19:05, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Ponyo - Nope, I dun goofed. I didn't realize that he created the talk page and it was deleted. I've restored the page. Thanks for letting me know about this. Sorry; still new and learning :-) ~Oshwah~ 19:13, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

No worries. If you're using the mass delete script it's easy to forgot to unclick the user talk.--Jezebel's Ponyo 19:51, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Hong Kong Soya Sauce Chicken Rice and Noodle

Good grief, I am getting so hungry. :) — Diannaa (talk) 22:00, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Diannaa - Dang it, now I'm hungry! :-P ~Oshwah~ 22:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm hungry too!! :P KGirlTrucker81 22:18, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm a bit late to the party...

...but I baked you a congratulatory pie. Best of luck with your new tools! MJ94 (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

MJ94! Yay! I love pie! <3 ~Oshwah~ 22:16, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Also, I wish I could thank every single editor who wished me well and offered their congratulations on my talk page. There would be a lot of edits to make... and that brings a sincere and honored smile on my face. For those who I haven't gotten to thank, I give you my sincere and humbled "Thank you!", from the bottom of my heart. I am humbled by all of your kind words, your wikifriendship and wikilove, and (most importantly) your trust. I will not take any of it for granted, and I will not let any of you down. I promise :-) ~Oshwah~ 22:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

legit information

please visit rasikhgems.com its all legit info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasikhgems (talk • contribs) 22:53, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

mk fintel wind

hi there, can you please review my comment on your request for deletion? You can just type mk fintel wind on google and see thousands of pictures and articles about the company i wrote about. First ever to bring renewable energy in Serbia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merrimark56 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Last edit to Igor Vovchanchyn

Hello,

The last edit I made was indeed a true circulation. That particular story can be found on many websites and is a popular 'legend', so to speak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:446:C401:3570:C83A:F29F:5E77:9A6C (talk) 02:41, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

User block requested/review of your decision

Hi Oshwah, you left a note on AIV against my report that user had been incorrectly or insufficiently warned. Please note that as per our wp:blocking policy, "note that warnings are not a prerequisite for blocking. In general, administrators should ensure that users who are acting in good faith are aware of policies and are given reasonable opportunity to adjust their behavior before blocking. On the other hand, users acting in bad faith, whose main or only use is forbidden activity (sockpuppetry, vandalism, and so on), do not require any warning and may be blocked immediately." This user's edit was BLP vandalism on José Calderón (basketball) and contained the following words: sam sells like penis...Peniz...penis....Penis Lickers Association....Is Penis a country...penis...ended with dick in his butthole, and all done in the infobox, from changing the BLP's name to his nationality. Of course, apart from dick weed in the edit summary. Unless you consider this a good faith edit as per policy, there is no warning required for a user undertaking BLP vandalism like this. Additionally, I had requested that the edit also be revdeleted, which I believe you have not done. May I ask the reasons why you have chosen to not revdel the particular edit while revdeling the edit summary?

In summary, may I request you to block the said user indefinitely and to revdel the user's edit? Blocking ensures that if the user attempts to undertake similar edits using the underlying ip addresses or using other names, the user is restricted from vandalizing Misplaced Pages again. Revdeling the edit ensures protection of a BLP. AIV reporters like me take considerable time in identifying such editors, and it takes our time away when such editors are not blocked and revdel requests are not heeded to. I respect your decision, but strongly encourage you to reverse the same. In case you decide not to reverse your decision, may I request you to put up your decision for peer review on ANI, and additionally not undertake decisions on BLP violations in the future? Thank you in advance. Lourdes 07:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lourdes: If you had checked the log you would have seen I messed up and deleted the edit summary instead of the edit. I've fixed that now (it doesn't help that you've repeated the offending material twice). However, Oshwah was completely correct in his assessment. You'll note that the editor who reverted the vandalism is also an admin and gave a level 1 warning. I would have given a level 3 warning but would not have blocked either. --NeilN 07:28, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks NeilN, I've had to repeat the offending material to push the point across because you missed out deleting. Thanks for revdeling it now. Please do clarify for my knowledge. The blocking policy mentions (as said above) that "In general, administrators should ensure that users who are acting in good faith are aware of policies and are given reasonable opportunity to adjust their behavior before blocking. On the other hand, users acting in bad faith, whose main or only use is forbidden activity (sockpuppetry, vandalism, and so on), do not require any warning and may be blocked immediately." Do you consider the BLP violation edit a good faith edit and the editor a good faith editor? Lourdes 07:33, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lourdes: The proper way to have done that is to have provided a diff. And note the policy says, "may be blocked immediately." It is rare for a vandal to be blocked after one edit and there's a reason why we have 3rd and 4th level warnings, both of which assume the user is not acting in good faith. --NeilN 07:41, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

NeilN, thanks. By your response, I presume that you agree with me that the user is a bad faith editor. If you note, the policy says that bad faith editors "do not require any warning" and not "may not be warned". In other words, bad faith editors absolutely don't require any warning (opposite to what Oshwah wrote at AIV that "user had been incorrectly or insufficiently warned"). While you mention that the notices assume bad faith editing, the policy says otherwise, and recommends notices are for good faith editors. Do please clarify if my reading of the policy is wrong. I'm hopeful I'll leave with better understanding of the issue post your response. Lourdes 07:48, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lourdes: Again, policy does not say "must be blocked". It says "may be blocked". And again, blocking a vandal after one edit is rare. You've got three admins including C.Fred who saw the edit and declined to block, using their judgment. Bad faith editors do not require any warning but that doesn't mean admins will block after one edit and not give the editor the chance to stop or change their behavior. --NeilN 07:58, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks NeilN. In summary, as per you, a bad faith editor need not get blocked after one edit. Also, as per you, a bad faith editor does not require any warning. Can I therefore presume that Oshwah's statement at AIV that "user had been incorrectly or insufficiently warned" should rather have been "wait for more evidence"? (I promise, this is the last clarification requested of you.) Lourdes 08:03, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lourdes: AIV reports should be made after the vandal has been sufficiently warned as it's not designed to be a holding pen. Oshwah could also have declined, using, "No edits since warning". Most declined reports appear on AIV for at least a couple hours after being declined so many admins do check for additional activity when doing sweeps of the board. Also, WP:UWLEVELS may be worth a read. Most, if not all, admins who regularly patrol AIV look to see if that advice has been followed on the editor's talk page. --NeilN 08:15, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

That's a good read. Oshwah, I think it would be good if in case of BLP violations, you use what NeilN recommends than the template message you left me at AIV. NeilN, although in case of bad faith editors, policy goes against your statement of "AIV reports should be made "after" the vandal has been sufficiently warned" (and I hope that's a new perspective to you too), I think I understand the punchline of your clarification, which is that even in the case of any absolute BLP violation by an utterly bad faith editor (like the one noted above), don't report the editor to AIV until the editor has attempted multiple similar egregious BLP violations. Thanks for the time taken to discuss. It's a new perspective for me. I'll get back if I need more help. Ciao. Lourdes 08:28, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I would have declined the block as well. A single instance of vandalism is an extremely low threshold for any block; very few administrators will enact a one strike policy. Blocks are preventative but the editor must demonstrate a pattern which cannot be extrapolated from a single edit. The word "persistent" appears frequently in several administrative blocking guidelines and policies. Additionally, there's a worthwhile section at WP:BITE about behaviourial guidelines for newcomers who are vandals: "today's vandals might be tomorrow's editors". Mkdw 07:05, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Lourdes. Let me start off my apologizing -- I didn't mean to "template" you in my response in AIV nor did I mean for it to upset you or frustrate you in any way. I also don't want my response to discourage you from filing reports when you feel that action should be taken. I won't go too in-depth with what others have already pointed out, as they're already explained my rationale very well. Basically, the vandalism was childish and quite ridiculous for sure, but we try not to block due to one instance of vandalism. Even if it's quite... childish. Blocks cannot be used in a punitive measure, but used in preventative measures. In the future, I'll make sure to explain instead of just pasting a template. I appreciate you for expressing your concerns here, and you're welcome to do so. I've only been an admin for about a week now, so I have plenty to learn :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:15, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Congratulations on your successful RfA! I have been ~~stalking~~ observing you work for a while now and I would have undoubtedly supported. Too bad that real life has been a drag since a few months and I barely get time for this wonderful site. Anyway, kudos to you for passing; I am sure that you'll do a great job as an admin. Good luck with the mop! Ya sh ! 12:44, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Yash!, and thanks for the cupcake! Thank you for the wikilove and for the kind words; I very much appreciate it. No worries my friend! It was a squeaker, but I passed and it's all over and behind me now. I won't let you down! :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:22, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations

Just wanted to congratulate you on your successful RfA :) CatcherStorm 14:40, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Belatedly

Well done. Anything else would have been a travesty. Eagleash (talk) 18:06, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations for your adminship. Now take that mop and whack vandals on their heads. Poking is also fair game. WannaBeEditor (talk) 14:23, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations!

I think it's time for another beer! Congratulations on you successful RfA. You deserve it and the Misplaced Pages project will benefit! Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 15:19, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protection

Dear Oshwah, may I ask you to semi-protect Hazal Kaya article indefinitely? Reason: too many disruptive edits from IPs (Pakistan, etc.). Thank you. Mona778 (talk) 19:49, 5 September 2016 (UTC)