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Hey

I like your talk page header ;) Andre (talk) 07:53, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

I stole a little more than that! Check out my main page. By the way if you look at that in edit you will notice that I factored in the button code as a template, "Button", which reduces the clutter on the main page and makes it easier to add new buttons and edit existing ones.

There's one tricky thing about that--if you need more than five buttons you need to produce a clone of the template (Button2 in my case) because of limitations in the MediaWiki software. --] 15:57, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Vote on Misplaced Pages:Three revert rule enforcement

Hi Tony. Anthony DiPierro is claiming you voted twice on the Misplaced Pages:Three revert rule enforcement page (see the edit history for the page, and Anthony's summaries). Could you possibly go there and clarify? Thanks. Jayjg 01:42, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Nonverbal Communication

Hi there Tony. I dig the Talk header :). Well, I went to the great dictionary.com and found this definition:

ver·bal Audio pronunciation of "verbal" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vûrbl) adj.

  1. Of, relating to, or associated with words: a detailed verbal description. 

Upon this foundation, I would very much say that sign language is 'verbal', as it uses words. I know those, not me personally, but I know those who are really fighting hard to break the stereotype that sign language is not 'words' but just pantomime. Many sign languages, ASL, FSL etc, are complete and very indepth languages. On this basis I would say that sign language is 'verbal' and does not belong into the 'nonverbal' category.

I'm going to college at UC Santa Cruz in California, and there is a nonverbal course here. If you'd like I could see if I couldn't get an email response about this from the professor. Heck, I might even try to get him to contribute :) JoeSmack (talk) 14:43, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

I got this definition out of "The Nonverbal Communication Reader: Classic and Contemporary Readings". Nonverbal communication refers to communication effected by means other than words. The scent of a person - is it foul, alluring or brisk? A waitress writing a smilie face on a check when giving it to the costumer - tips are statistically higher when women do this (but not men...). I would even say hand signals like holding out a hand to stop, wagging a finger or flipping someone the bird........but sign language is with words. While areas like personal proximity, eye dilation, even silience has their grounds in nonverbal communication, none of them are direct verbatium speech - which sign language is. Heck, typing this message to you right now...would you consider this nonverbal communication? Would writing someone a letter be considered nonverbal communication? Communication effected by means other than words...

Also, thanks for the info on the header. :) JoeSmack (talk) 18:12, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Civility

Having benefitted from your insistence upon civility I thought you could point out the error of his ways to this Phil fellow. Thanks Tony ... and keep up the good work. - Robert the Bruce 18:08, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, and you're welcome. I'm now plodding through the long exchange at the link at the start of your article and I'll compose a note to Phil on his talk page (as I did for you) when I have material enough to make an appropriate comment. --] 20:24, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have re-cast my response: hope my method meets your approval. I am certain that you are aware of this user's history of rudeness to various well-respected members of the community, and I hope you realise that my lapse of judgement was not merely a response to that single comment. The fact that he has appropriated the moniker of one of my more-famous ancestors to peddle his bile is not so much an excuse as one more straw on the camel's back. --Phil | Talk 08:31, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, Phil. I know I must sound like a dreadful Pollyanna, but I do think we owe it to Robert to practise what we preach. I really appreciate your effort to go that extra mile. --] 09:46, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re: VfD La La

Sure, no worries. :-) Johnleemk | Talk 11:25, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

'B' Ark

I like the option name! ;-)

As far as I know, this is the first time that such a suggestion has come up, although I might be wrong - while I do take part in VfD and other such "community activities" it is only sporadic as I'm always much happier writing articles instead of engaging in (sometimes endless) debates. Such a "rule" will also have some enforcement problems (when does the "countdown" of the cooling-off period begin, for example?), but in my not-so-humble opinion something has to be done before Misplaced Pages is totally overrun by "fancruft" (and things like high school entries).

As far as I know there has also been an idea floating around (but I don't know how seriously it is being considered - apparently there is some discussion on the Meta-Wiki) of starting a KidiWiki (although the name should probably be changed to something else so that the more adult fans of popular culture are also attracted to the site). The stuff you mention should fit perfectly in there.

Elf-friend 12:33, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Copyvio

Have removed the old article and moved the /temp one into place. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:16, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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