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The content of this article was forked from another article, The Godfather (novel). Please see that article's page history for contributor information for parts of this article.

Trivia

I just re-watched this movie, and although Vito Corleone takes the name of his town Corleone, his father's name was Alberto Antonini. At least I think. If someone wants to check that one out.

His father's name was Antonio Andolini.
("My fathers name was Antonio Andolini... and this is for you!") 72.200.136.66 18:20, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
It was a mistake by the guy at Ellis Island. "Vito Andolini from Corleone". And the other guy says, writing down in the book, "Vito Coreleone." Sorry it's late. Not a very good explanation. TommyBoy76 12:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)TommyBoy76

Cast List

I'm thinking that the See Also section ought to be used for the more notable among the cast, e.g. Al Pacino, Francis Ford Coppola and of course Marlon Brando. Perhaps a selective cast list could go under the Casting section, to avoid clogging up the bottom of the article? Rob Church 10:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

References

I'm now in the awkward position of trying to fill up the References section for this article. As I didn't write most of the content (forked from another article), this is going to be difficult. All help is therefore welcome. A brief read-through suggests references for the following claims will be needed, at the very least:

  • Pacino was only granted the role after Coppola threatened to quit the production.
  • It was voted greatest film of all time by Entertainment Weekly, and #3 of all time by the American Film Institute. It is consistently, and currently, ranked #1 on IMDB's Top 250.
  • Coppola stated that the horse's head was delivered to him from a dog food company; a horse had not been killed especially for the movie.
  • Mafia families began a "real life" tradition of paying respect to the family don by kissing his ring, in imitation of the opening scene of The Godfather.

All pointers welcome. Rob Church 12:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)


Rob, are you a wiki admin? I don't like that on the talk page, I can edit other user's posts ... I thought it would work better as a bulletin board or forum. Anyways, I found that Coppolla himself said that the horse's head was delivered to the crew by a dog food company, and he says that on "The Godfather Collection" DVD commentary. I added a reference on the wiki page accordingly. 144.226.173.68 02:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC) Nasif S. Hossain 08/20/06

Redirection

It is ridiculous for The Godfather to redirect here. Either The Godfather should be a disambiguation page, or this page should be at The Godfather. I think either is defensible, but it is not defensible to have the main title redirecting to a disambiguated title. What on earth is the point of the disambiguated title in this case? john k 21:33, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

There, happy? - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:01, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Quite. john k 06:14, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Differences from the novel?

Would it be a good idea to add (either here or on the entry for the novel) a run down of the differences between the film and book? 83.70.42.212 21:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC) RossN

Original Soundtrack

I feel the soundtrack is an incredibly important part of the film also, it is equally deeply beautiful, haunting, moving and forboding. Does anyone else think it should have greater acknowledgement in the main The Godfather article ? Dirk Diggler Jnr 06:21, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

The soundtrack is incredibly iconic of the feel of the film, i feel it;s worthy of mention, did it recieve an Oscar for the best soundtrack?

The soundtrack section

Should probably be nuked. Who cares who wrote the lyrics for each song? savidan 23:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the "Who cares?" part, but it doesn't have to be nuked. I think it is fine where it is. Why SHOULDNT it be in the article? It doesn't hurt anything...

IMDb 'rating'

I changed the statement: It has repeatedly been voted as the greatest movie ever made by users at the Internet Movie Database. There are a number of problems with this statement. Firstly, all films on IMDb are voted for only by users who choose to vote for the film, which is convenience sampling. It is misleading to claim it is voted 'by the users at the IMDb': it is voted by a subset, and quite likely a very selective one. Secondly, the 'rating' method on IMDb of a single 1-10 vote is simplistic and does not meet the most basic of psychometric criteria, so any claim about how any group has 'rated' this film based on such a method is dubious: the claim cannot be verified according to any accepted criteria. It is giving a lot of credence to a poorly conducted poll to mention it at all. Holon 07:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be fair to say it is the highest ranked film on IMDB, if that is in fact true. john k 01:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, which is basically what I have changed it to. My issue was that the previous version was prone to misinterpretation. I agree with you, just wanted to be clear about the reason I've altered the statement. Cheers. Holon 08:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

The Simpsons Impact

The Godfather trilogy had a huge impact on The Simpsons. Other wikipedia movie entries document the episodes with references. Maybe a link should be inserted to: http://www.duffzone.co.uk/content.php?title=refgf

Production: reference to "traitor" elements in the crew

I have removed the following sentence from the "Production" section, because it does not make any sense as written:

Elements of the film's crew were also against Coppola, mid-way through shooting several key members of the production team including the Assistant Director who Coppola accused of being 'traitors'.

There clearly something missing from this statement to flesh it out. I suspect that it might mean something like

Mid-way through the shooting, elements of the film's crew were also against Coppola, including the Assistant Director and key members of the production team, whom Cappola accused of being 'traitors'.

But I have no independent knowlegdge of this being true.

Is Copolla referring to all the dissenting production team members are "traitors", or only the Assistant Director"? What's the significant of "mid-way through shooting?" -- does something happen then?

I just don't understand the reference, and I wish that someone with knowledge of what occured wouls correct it and reinsert it. unfutz 08:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Interpretation

I think that films of this magnitude and importance should have some discussion of their meaning and/or interpretation(s).

Is there a way to begin this without starting a long chain of competing reviews?

Greatest movie ever made. That's my review. TommyBoy76 02:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)TommyBoy76

I think that the reviews of this trilogy (The Godfather, Part II and III) are heavily biased in the interpretation of the events. I feel obligated to edit some text out, in order to state what actually happens from what you think happened or the reasons for it. I think that whoever reviewed them didn't had the movie next to him to state the facts.

Lets be neutral, and lets not mix the information of the novels with that of the films.~~

Failed GA

I failed the GA nominations for the following reasons

  • Few refs
  • Images need a fair use rationale
  • Needs a strong copyedit
  • Remove the trivia section

Jaranda 19:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Contrary statements: lighting/budget

In the Production section of the article it claims that realistic lighting was forced on Coppola because of budget constraints.

In the Trivia section, it says the exact opposite: "The film was shot with regular lighting, not because of budget reasons and a tight schedule, but Coppola wanted a more realistic tone to the film."

I'd fix it if I knew which was correct...

72.192.247.146 15:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Godfather Trivia Question

In the scene that Sollozo and McClusky are shot by Michael, what is the exact weapon that Michael uses? Its a revolver of some kind but...

I can't find out on the internet, so...

Please help.

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