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Made some edits to remove assertions and replace with descriptions. Synonyms for "wrote" and "said" need to be equally neutral.Keith-264 (talk) 14:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh, while an effort has been made by other editors to show conflicts of interest in ML critics and supporters*, there ought to be a better way of describing MLs worth than by doing more than listing comments for and against.

Don't know if you still watch this page, Keith-264, but the word Pilger currently appears 21 times in this article, while the word Kamm appears only 12 times, respectively 13 and 6 times if one excludes the citations. This number applies to the text and the citations. Just so you know. Philip Cross (talk) 15:11, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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A few points

Rhacodes, the reason someone added the Journalism panel to the this article would have been the presence there of a link to the Propaganda model page which is listed under "social impact" rather than any aspect of the profession. Cromwell and Edwards do not use the journalist self-description, nor is it present in reliable sources, anything else is original research. They are normally described as media activists, an identifier which they do use and is a fair and non-pejorative description.

I don't see Elliott Murphy's relative obscurity as a problem. He is in the same position as their admirers, bar a handful of exceptions. Most of their most serious detractors have long established Misplaced Pages articles, one or two, such as Andrew Marr, are quite well known, so your argument is potentially to the disfavour of Media Lens, if followed to its logical conclusion. Given Herman and Chomsky's huge influence on the Media Lens editors, I would assume Cromwell and Edwards are less displeased by Murphy's description of them (having "'taken to heart' the hypothesis of Herman and Chomsky 'probably more than any other writers in Britain'") than anything else in the article. I used his point, partly for emphasis I admit, but also because it is a necessary third-party source to establish the notability of the Herman and Chomsky influence. Philip Cross (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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