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Please don't report imaginary problems for admins to solve.

Referring specifically to this edit in which you openly acknowledge that you know it is stale and therefore not a real problem. It's also worth noting that WP:UAA/I, which I asked you to please review back in October, explicitly says "Sharing issues are not for UAA. Names that imply account sharing are not serious enough for UAA. Do not report them unless there are other serious username policy violations. For actual account sharing, first ask the users to stop sharing and discuss the issue at ANI if they refuse." UAA experiences regular backlogs, so it's really not helpful to be posting pointless reports like this. Pretty much the only exceptions to the "staleness" rule are accounts that attack or impersonate specific living people. Since you did not reply in any way to my previous comments on your username reporting (and you use bot archiving, so there's no assurance you're even reading this page) I would appreciate some sort of written acknowledgment that you have seen this message. Thanks. Beeblebrox (talk)

Pauley Perrette

In reference to this edit, Pauley's Twitter account is a verified account. Notice the little blue check mark. So, it's not a case of "nyone can set up an account and say they're someone else." It's really her and Twitter verified. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:40 on January 21, 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

Administrator changes Malcolmxl5 John • TheCoffee • Tim! Creffett → GeneralNotability DeltaQuad → AmandaNP

CheckUser changes Bbb23 Interface administrator changes TonyBallioni

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.

Technical news

• Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).

Arbitration

• Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
• The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles.

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Hello wekeepwhatwekill(/Necromonger?). I'm here to ask you to change your signature. Our guideline on signatures outlines what is acceptable in a user signature (see WP:SIGPROB specifically, and the username policy). Your signature is in violation for the following reasons:

• Your signature does not indicate your username. (WP:CUSTOMSIG/P)
• The name given in your signature is the name of an existing user, Necromonger (talk · contribs) (WP:SIGFORGE). Note that the account is inactive and you may be able to WP:USURP it if you wish.
• Your signature contains the statement "all lives matter", a statement often seen as an attack on Blacks in the United States and abroad. Its use in your signature is at least trolling, which is forbidden. (WP:DISRUPTNAME)

Please correct these problems. You seem to be familiar with customizing a signature already, but if not, the guideline page has instructions. Thank you. Ivanvector (/_Edits) 10:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Ivanvector I'll see if I can usurp Necromonger, as you're right about my signature not being in line with customsig/p. However, my signature's tag definitely isn't trolling, and I realize you're not accusing me of doing so. To be perfectly honest, I really do believe all lives matter, what's more (and this isn't going to help me, I know!) I changed my tag in response to Bilorv's signature which not only states Black Lives matter, but also links right to project page by that name. Neither his signature nor mine actually run afoul of WP:Disruptname, as neither my tag nor his are our names.

Just so we're clear, I respect Bilorv's view that black lives matter, and I'm perfectly ok with him having this as his tag, so I'm not going to even suggest that he needs to remove his tag. He doesn't have to. I would submit that just as hit tag ins't disruptive, neither is mine. I happen to have a wider view, that all lives matter. Hopefully you and I can agree that the tag on my name is fine. I don't want this to come to a point where you have to tell me to remove it or get blocked.

I'm going over to usurp right now to see about usurping "Necromonger"

Necromonger...ALL Lives matter 02:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping I guess. In the penchant for false equivalences that typifies the racist "all lives matter" movement, you have failed to grasp that my choice of signature for the month of June was designed to highlight a new WikiProject to those who may be interested in it but not have heard about it otherwise, whereas yours serves no collaborative purpose. Notice further that editors of all beliefs are explicitly welcome at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Black Lives Matter. I would suggest that you actually read the link Ivanvector points to because you have failed to understand that phrases have connotations and therefore the statements "black lives matter" and "all lives matter" actually represent deeper ideas. However, I have no particular issue if you choose to keep your current signature because a walking-and-talking indicator of your own bias can be useful to other editors. — Bilorv (talk) 10:12, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Ivanvector My request to usurp "Necromonger" was turned down. I realize I can't keep "Necromonger" as my signature, you've made that clear, so I've altered it to be my initials "W.K.W.W.K", as my name's fairly long.

Bilorv to me "all lives matter" means just that, everyone's life is equal, man, woman, black, white, rich, poor...etc... Like Freud once said "Sometimes a cigar's a cigar". W.K.W.W.K...ALL Lives matter 17:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for making the change. I thought the rules would have allowed you to usurp an account with only a handful of edits nine years ago but I guess the stewards have to follow the letter of the written rules more than most of us. I won't push the issue with the slogan in your signature, but hopefully you can see that the phrase is seen as offensive by some in the context you're using it, whether or not that's your intent. Best, Ivanvector (/_Edits) 22:01, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Warning

You cannot make low quality edits such as this at Michael Vick. Please review and observe WP:BLP. Here is the discretionary sanctions alert:

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Template:Z33 El_C 16:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Well.........perhaps we should agree to disagree. Dogfighting is inherently abusive to dogs, Michael Vick was involved in all aspects of dog fighting. So, in your mind, does that make my statement about him true or false? He is just what I said he is, it's obvious fact and all Wikipedians need to be able to state obvious facts. For example, Michael Vick is a football player, this is a fact. Michael Vick went to jail, this is a fact. Michael Vick ran a dog fighting ring, that's a fact. I won't revert you or anything, because I realize your an admin, however, do you think what I'm saying makes sense? W.K.W.W.K...ALL Lives matter 18:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

We cannot agree to disagree. You are entitled to think what you like, but as an uninvolved admin in that topic area, I am instructing you to make the necessary correction in the future. Also, I'm not the one who reverted you, that was Thed2333. I advise you to review WP:BLPCRIME closely, because any future such violations are likely to be met by sanctions. El_C 19:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)