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God as the Self
This article talks about Paul Heelas. A long time ago, I was personally informed by Paul Heelas that he defined the New Age as seeing God as the Self. There could be a link to Self religion here. Vorbee (talk) 19:39, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
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Modified the wording of a section to improve accuracy
The position that new age science seeks to unite science and spirituality is non-neutral in favor of new age; "new age science" is a misnomer, as it is not science. It takes a sentence of reading through the science article to see this. 98.127.41.104 (talk) 09:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- - the article does not say "New Age science", it says "New Age approach to science" - Epinoia (talk) 14:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- p.s. - this is not to say that there is not New Age Pseudoscience (see Masaru Emoto), but the correspondence between real science and intuitive understanding of reality goes back at least as far as Fritjof Capra's 1975 book The Tao of Physics and Gary Zukav's 1979 book The Dancing Wu Li Masters - pseudoscience is not limited to New Age, as in the cold fusion fiasco 1989 - Epinoia (talk) 20:39, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- You seem to have reverted my edit on the grounds of a wording error in my explanation, but it seems that my point still stands; "seek to unite science and spirituality" does not accurately describe the "New Age approach to science," because science relies on testable explanations, which are almost invariably absent on matters of spirituality. I can think of no compromise, as my initial edit was incredibly minor as to the change in meaning, anyway. Added "purportedly" back, in lieu of a better solution. (also I remembered to log in yay)
- EDIT: also, am noob and not sure where the revert button is so I undid instead which I think might be wrong but it seems to have achieved the same thing - Somniad (talk) 23:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- - it doesn't "purportedly" seek to unite science and spirituality, it actually does seek to unite science and spirituality - whether or not it is successful or not is another question - the intent is to find correlations between our intuitive understanding of reality and the scientific model of the world, it doesn't mean replacing or influencing scientific experimentation or proving spiritual beliefs through science - Epinoia (talk) 23:31, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- I had more reasons typed out, but this is going to become a fairly trivial series of reverts if I don't give up. Somniad (talk) 00:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- - you would need to add a source that states that "New Age science purportedly seeks to unite science and spirituality" - otherwise it is your opinion - see WP:RS, WP:VERIFY, WP:NOR - the New Age science section in the article is well researched and gives an overview of the different approaches and crticisms - Epinoia (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- I had more reasons typed out, but this is going to become a fairly trivial series of reverts if I don't give up. Somniad (talk) 00:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- - it doesn't "purportedly" seek to unite science and spirituality, it actually does seek to unite science and spirituality - whether or not it is successful or not is another question - the intent is to find correlations between our intuitive understanding of reality and the scientific model of the world, it doesn't mean replacing or influencing scientific experimentation or proving spiritual beliefs through science - Epinoia (talk) 23:31, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- p.s. - this is not to say that there is not New Age Pseudoscience (see Masaru Emoto), but the correspondence between real science and intuitive understanding of reality goes back at least as far as Fritjof Capra's 1975 book The Tao of Physics and Gary Zukav's 1979 book The Dancing Wu Li Masters - pseudoscience is not limited to New Age, as in the cold fusion fiasco 1989 - Epinoia (talk) 20:39, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Add sidebar?
Should we add the sidebar Template:New Age beliefs sidebar since New Age is an important and large religious category it is helpful to have a sidebar with links to further readings.Mangokeylime (talk) 20:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Relation to postmodernism
On first sight one (e.g. I) can be confused that New Age and postmodernism are synonymous. Nevertheless, the only relation is a link to Postmodernism in New Age's "Other influences" section.
My quick search shows that the question has been discussed before this talk page and outside of wikipedia (based on Paul Heelas, 1996).
Can someone more knowledgeable comment on the relation and/or edit this article and the Postmodernism article? Cheater no1 (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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