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Twitter split proposal

I propose that the section Donald Trump on social media#Twitter be split out to Donald Trump on Twitter. It is extremely long and takes up the majority of this article. Natg 19 (talk) 01:26, 31 July 2020 (UTC) Pinging @Finnusertop, GHcool, JFG, Axisixa, and Nanophosis: (previous participants of a similar discussion) Natg 19 (talk) 00:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Oppose pretty much the entire article is Donald Trump's Twitter activity. The remaining sections are a few paragraphs and don't add much to the article length-splitting them out of the article would not alter the length and create a very awkward stub, "Donald Trump's activity on social media (excluding Twitter)".
The real reason this article is long is because Trump says a lot of crazy stuff on Twitter and we document it, it's that simple. If you have a problem with that, take it up with him and see how far you get. So it's a given that the article is long, but that's not a problem in my view because it's well organised and it's possible to find sections you care about. Blythwood (talk) 10:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Unnecessary. Trump's social media activity outside Twitter is not notable. — JFG 11:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps a way forward would be to rename this article to Donald Trump on Twitter, and insert a brief paragraph about his other social media activity. What do you think? — JFG 11:40, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

This sounds like a good solution to me. My original concern is that the Twitter activity overshadows the "other" social media activity. Perhaps this article was named this way to match with the Barack Obama on social media article. Natg 19 (talk) 21:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Oppose - As others have said, Trump's activity outside of Twitter is not worthy of attention, and I doubt any of it is actually written by him anyway. A better solution would be shortening the article, which is more of a melange of certain tweets that have gained notoriety than an summation of his Twitter activity - I doubt we need three paragraphs on Britain First; nobody remembers that. At the very least, Twitter shouln't be a top-level heading, it makes the article very difficult to read - it could be laid out more like this instead. - Axisixa T C 06:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you support JFG's proposal to rename the article to Donald Trump on Twitter? I would be okay with that solution, if we are to mainly focus on his Twitter activity. Natg 19 (talk) 00:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think it makes much sense if the article still covers other social media platforms. But none of them are really that relevant anyway, outside of his old Youtube videos, so they could be removed or relegated to a minor mention/paragraph. - Axisixa T C 03:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Approve deletionists are responsible of this situation. The proposal makes total sense. --Deansfa (talk) 03:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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What has happened to Misplaced Pages. When exactly did Misplaced Pages pages become as loaded as certain far left news articles? I am deeply saddened by this turnover. Misplaced Pages used to be the figurehead of the internet, the manifestation of the fantastic dream that the internet would serve to promote free speech and the spread of knowledge. Can you recover, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.53.114.244 (talk) 17:54, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages still is. We however don't promote stuff not covered by reliable sources. Asartea 15:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Do you have any specific suggestions for how to improve the article's neutrality? RoxySaunders (talk) 04:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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gab.com

Is this his official gab.com account: https://gab.com/realDonaldTrump ? If it is then this article should link to it. Gab (social network) "is an English-language alt-tech social networking service". (In the days before mega-corporation/mainstream websites there were no "alt-tech" websites but just "websites".) --User123o987name (talk) 10:13, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Trump "quote"

Is the current "quoted" tweet necessary, and if so, is that the most representative tweet? I get that looking for new tweets may be a tad difficult now, but still. Juxlos (talk) 11:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Tweet on article beginning

The tweet on the article's beginning is currently not visible. Please fix by linking to an archive of the tweet. Thanks! --93.44.108.28 (talk) 11:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

The {{tweet}} template currently does not have this function. I've requested it be added.--Auric talk 12:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Myspace?

Trump also supposedly has a Myspace account: https://myspace.com/donald_trump_offical. Not sure it's real. --Auric talk 12:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Tweets published on @POTUS

Hi X-Editor, thank you for your edit on the usage of @POTUS over the last day. However, you used Newsweek as a source, which is generally not reliable according to WP:RSPSRC. I was able to find a Washington Post article to back up the first sentence of your edit, but unfortunately no reliable source for the second (In these tweets, he complained about Twitter's ban and accused the social media platform, without evidence, of colluding in a conspiracy with the Democratic Party and "the Radical Left" to get him banned, while repeating the rhetoric that first got him banned from his main Twitter account). While I am not disputing that this may be true, I was wondering if you could help me find a WP:RSPSRC-compliant source to back this claim up?--JBchrch (talk) 15:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I was able to find an article from US News, which is considered reliable, that clarifies the situation surrounding his circumventions . I would suggest changing the paragraph to this:

Trump tried to circumvent this ban by briefly making a series of tweets on the @POTUS Twitter account, but the posts were deleted within minutes of them being tweeted. Trump also tried to circumvent the ban by posting a statement on the @TeamTrump campaign Twitter account in which he complained about Twitter's ban and accused the social media platform, without evidence, of colluding in a conspiracy with the Democratic Party and "the Radical Left" to get him banned, while repeating the rhetoric that first got him banned from his main Twitter account. This account was also banned after the statement from Trump was posted.

X-Editor (talk) 17:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I slightly expanded the paragraph to reference the suspension of the official campaign handle with a reference to NPR.--DarTar (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I removed the unreliable newsweek source and replaced it with the reliable US News source. I also fixed the paragraph to say that Trump's without evidence claim was made on his campaign account and not the POTUS account. X-Editor (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

New Twitter?

Is perhaps https://twitter.com/45_POTUS_Trump a new sockpuppet account of Trumps? GavinTroyJohnTom (talk) 18:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, any reliable source to back that up?--JBchrch (talk) 19:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Does Twitter really "request" the removal of Tweets?

I changed the wording from "request" to "demand" in the section that talks about the temporary suspension of Mr Trump's Twitter account, because the fact is, when Twitter forces a user to delete certain tweets in order to have their account reinstated, it is inaccurate to describe such a thing as a "request". It is not "pov" (point of view, or mere opinion) to describe the fact that he had to remove the tweets to get his account reinstated as coercion. It is more accurate than saying "request", which, if you look it up in the dictionary, means "asking politely". Contrast that with "order" or "demand", which involves an element of coercion. -- Mr Gillespie Canberra User (talk) 03:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Stock market reaction to Trump ban

This should be here. Here is one source.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

This is what I started to add, but it doesn't really say Trump being banned is the reason.

==Stock market reaction to bans==
On January 11, 2021, stocks of Alphabet Inc., Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Twitter fell significantly, David Keller of StockCharts.com credited fear of increased regulation for the selloff.
— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vchimpanzee, I found an AP release as well as an FT article, however I to think that stock prices are not really WP:NOT for an article on Donald Trump's usage of social media.--JBchrch (talk) 21:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Now that it's clear the headlines are misleading, I would agree.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

References

Woodley, Kyle (11 January 2021). "Stock Market Today: Big Tech Stocks Thumped After Banning Trump". Kiplinger's Personal Finance. Retrieved 12 January 2021.

Is Sockpuppeting the correct term?

Hello, UK reader here. I'm reading this sentence: "Allies of Trump who posted on his behalf, including........" and noticed that the hyperlink in "who posted on his behalf" is linked to a wikipedia article on sockpuppets. Is this correct? I thought from other media articles that the people who posted for the (former) US President after he was banned did so of their own accord and not using false accounts. It struck me as the wrong link. The external articles I read on Gary Coby said he renamed his Twitter account himself and no false accounts were created. Is that sockpuppeting? Doesn't affect me either way but just something for thoughts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.0.201 (talk) 22:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Verified symbol

Do we really need a verified symbol for the tweet he posted when other articles with tweets do not have the symbol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.10.148 (talk) 10:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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In the "Satire and archives" section, please delete the first paragraph, which currently reads 'In May 2017, Trump misspelled the word "coverage" as "covfefe," which quickly turned into a meme on the Internet.' This event is covered in more detail in the "Other controversial tweets" section of this article as well as the separate Covfefe article, which both correctly state that the "coverage" interpretation is merely speculative. It might be relevant to describe here how the covfefe tweet has been the subject of satire, but there is no such material here at this time. Therefore this statement is out of place and incorrect, and the best result will come from simply removing it. 67.188.1.213 (talk) 00:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Done. Volteer1 (talk) 04:59, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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