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Holodomor

If I understand correctly you are the same person who made these edits and now continue logged in as per my request. Thanks a lot for logging in. Please always make sure you are logged in when editing. Other editors would appreciate your making their lives easier this way.

Now, I really think that your edits lead the article to a POV. It may have been POV too, I don't deny that. No one is perfect. That said, I request you to let me go over your edits. And then we can discuss the differences at talk. Are you done? --Irpen 01:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Many of your references do not cite page numbers. Please add them asap. --Irpen 05:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, since you are editing right now, I request you cite page numbers to every ref to Davies and Wheatcroft now. TIA, --Irpen 02:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I am waiting for you to finish with your changes before going over the article. But before you leave, please make sure that every ref to Wheatcroft is supplied with the page number. Every single one! It would make much easier for others and should be beneficial for your POV as well. Please double check the whole article for uncited page numbers. Thanks, --Irpen 03:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

56 revolution

First of all, now that you are logged in, please learn to SIGN your messages. You type four of these things: ~. Second of all, please stop vandalizing our article with your revisionist propaganda. Thanks and have a nice day. K. Lastochka 00:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

First, welcome to Misplaced Pages! Second, editors have worked unbelievably lot on the 56 revolution article. Please do not add unsourced sentences, statements to the article, because it ruins the others' work. It recently became featured article with 15! support votes, it means it meets featured article criteria, as it is:

• "Factually accurate means that claims are verifiable against reliable sources and accurately present the related body of published knowledge. Claims are supported with specific evidence and external citations (see verifiability and reliable sources); this involves the provision of a "References" section in which sources are set out and, where appropriate, complemented by inline citations."
• "Neutral means that the article presents views fairly and without bias ; however, articles need not give minority views equal coverage ."

Thank you for your appreciation! NCurse _work 06:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Using Citation Templates

Please use the citations found at WP:CITET when adding reference material, encapsulating the templates in the appropriate reference tags: "<ref></ref>". Thanks. DJ Silverfish 00:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

over 1 million deaths

why was this removed, do you dispute it? --Sugarcaddy 19:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

edit summaries

In addition to page numbers, I request that you make a good use of the "edit summary" field in every edit that you make. This is a common courtesy to other editors.

BTW, please double check Holodomor that you cited all page numbers. I am about to make a go over that article and I want to make sure I don't delete source-supported info only because the page number is missing. Thanks, --Irpen 22:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I second this request. As I see, you edits to Joseph Stalin article got reverted. Some pieces may be improvement, but on the other hand, your deletions of text don't seem to be justified. Please also discuss yoor changes in the talk page whenever you see an opposition. `'mikkanarxi 22:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

"Deranged Zionist POV in Intro"

Your quote above from participation on the Hezbollah talk page is completely inappropriate langauge for Misplaced Pages. This is a community which includes people holding many opinions. Please act like a member of the community and avoid engaging in hate speech. Elizmr 18:33, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Hate speech on the basis of politics is completely acceptable. Jacob Peters

Mr. Peters, I strongly disagree with that statement. Hate speech, pure nasty venomous hate speech, is never acceptable in a civilized society. If something is really evil then its evil-ness (is that a word??) will come through on its own without the ornamental use of inflammatory language. K. Lastochka 23:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

article moves

Never ever make unproposed moves. This is a hige disruption and may result in blocks. --Irpen 23:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Continued article moves

This is your last warning.
The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to Holodomor, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. TheQuandry 00:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Changes have been discussed. Stop with these silly threats. Jacob Peters

Stop removing my comments from the talk page. That is vandalism. TheQuandry 02:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

The duration of the block is 48 hours. Here are the reverts in question. Alex Bakharev 04:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I have prolonged your block to 1 week for sockpuppeting and avoidance of the original block. See see ] Alex Bakharev 09:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Warned for personal attack

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

For this:

"The likes of Merzbow and Ultramarine are right-wing propagandists who have an agenda to push."

I'm curious to know if you are the same person as User:Kiske or not. You certainly sound very similar.

- Merzbow 03:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppeting

I have restarted your 1 week block for avoidance using a checkuser account. Refer to for details. Please do not use sockpuppets, many good users were permabanned for it. Alex Bakharev 07:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I have reset your block, since you were avoiding it, working as User:204.102.210.1. Please do not do it again. Alex Bakharev 21:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I have to restart it again since you were avoiding the block working using different accounts. Please stop and wait the end of your block Alex Bakharev 03:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Jacob Peters, really, what's your problem? Your block is well within policies and block avoidance may lead to a permanent ban. What's going on with all these accounts? Two Zvezdas, Frunze, Schmidt... Please take the advise seriously. Sit your block out till the end. A week is not an eternity. Once its over resume editing without leaving inflammatory comments, edit warring and overhauling the controversial articles in a major way with removal of sourced material. (Misplaced Pages:Be_bold_in_updating_pages#…but don't be reckless.)

Even if you want to change an account name, do not do it until your block expires and in the latter case do not resume the editing under the old account. Sockpuppets are caught sooner or later (sometimes later, true enough) and this is just a pain to everyone. Please behave. --Irpen 03:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

What evidence have you got for any of this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob Peters (talk • contribs)

Are you kidding? Listen, one acount per person. It's that simple. --Irpen 03:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

That means don't edit as user:69.110.222.33 --C33 03:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Unless you can find serious proof for any of this, please stop wasting bandwith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob Peters (talk • contribs)

Holodomor

If you want Holodomor to be moved, please open a move request. -- tariqabjotu 04:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Move vandalism to Holodomor, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, etc.

This is your last warning.
The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. TheQuandry 16:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do not replace Misplaced Pages pages with blank content. Blank pages are harmful to Misplaced Pages because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. --Sam Blanning 18:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Pages which do not cite sources have no choice but to be deleted. Jacob Peters

Please stop attempting to evade your block through sockpuppetry (or other means), or else the length of your block will continue to increase. -- tariqabjotu 15:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Just a little note for you

Sometimes people come to Misplaced Pages really fired up about something. Quite often they wade in and try to "fix" something which, as it turns out, has been the result of lengthy discussion and debate, with the result that they re-open cans of worms or re-ignite old conflicts. Generally their changes get speedily reverted in an attempt to maintain calm. At this point they very often start revert warring, making aggressive assertions on various talk pages and meta pages, and generally making waves. And this usually results in a block. Which, very often, they try to work around by registering new accounts or editing anonymously. But we are a bunch of suspicious bastards and we watch the articles so that these attempts are rapidly detected and reverted, and the editor's block lengthened.

Sound familiar? It certainly does to us, because we have been here before. Many times.

Now, at this point, things go one of two ways: the editor either learns from their mistakes and starts doing things the Misplaced Pages way (which is by calm debate, citing sources, and sticking to specifics about the article rather than being drawn into attacking individual editors), or they get banned from the project. Guess which of these is most likely to have an influence on the articles that readers see? If your guess was the former, award yourself a gold start for perception and then start thinking about how you can put your case persuasively, with cited sources, and avoiding attacking people. If you can do that, you may even find yourself unblocked. If, on the other hand, your sole reason for being here is to Right Great Wrongs, then you are doomed to disappointment. Misplaced Pages does not exist to Right Great Wrongs, it exists to document them and maybe discuss what is being done to right them in the outside world. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not a soapbox or campaigning tool.

So, rather than following the path of tendentious editing and disruption, I invite you to learn to work the Wiki way. But please do be aware that we are perfectly prepared to ban you forever from this site if needs be. We can't have angry mastodons in the project.

Happy New Year, Guy (Help!) 15:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Blocked, Again

You efforts to evade your block will be spotted, and your original block only increased. Those efforts are not to your benefit at all. -- tariqabjotu 03:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Blocked One Last Time

Jacob Peters (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This block is unjustified because there is no serious evidence that I have had other user names. I have been blocked for the poorly defined "three revert rule" which tries to prevent changes from being made even though the people with whom I had a dispute who use meatpuppets have not been punished. I have not done anything disruptive to deteriorate the quality of this web site. Rather, my edits simply come into conflict with the partisan administrators at this web site.

Decline reason:

There is serious evidence; in fact, it is absolutely confirmed without a doubt at requests for checkuser. Declining your unblock request because you do not appear to understand how your actions are disruptive (not to mention lying about your actions). —bbatsell ¿? 21:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Jacob Peters (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

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Like I said, there is no serious evidence that I've had other user names because it is virtually impossible to try and prove who is who on the internet where there are hundreds of millions users.

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