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<this page was deleted with claims of "Unambiguous advertising" claiming that the sources weren't external. The sources on the article are from press and external organizations to the company. The page was created in the fashion of similar companies, the COI was displayed in good faith since I’m helping translate private companies from my city that are international. Previous to the translation I reviewed the page in english and deleted all biased comments and it was accepted by Spanish wikipedia moderators, then I translated that same content that was already reviewed for bias. The claims the moderator made on my talk page make me think she didn't read the article, as well as the fact that the article was barely posted when she did so and I saw activity on her page erasing other's articles as well. >
Johny Messo
Can someone take a look at the closure, because (1) it was done while improvements of the article were still going on, and (2) the closure was to delete, but there was no clear consensus on the outcome: two users voted to keep (Sorabino and Gidonb), while user (SportingFlyer) voted to delete, thus agreeing with the nominator (Buidhe). Another user (Bearian) initially also voted to delete, but after seeing some improvements pointed to selective merger as an option. One more user (Styyx) just commented, by providing several useful links to sources that could be added. I contacted the closer (Spartaz) directly (here) and asked them to reconsider closure, and relist discussion for another week, but he declined, unfortunately. I also contacted other participants in the discussion, regardless of the way they voted. I hope that this article will be relisted, since there are many sources to be added. The person in question is a politician and author, who is president (since 2009) of the World Council of Arameans, an international umbrella organization of the Aramean people in diaspora. Sorabino (talk) 08:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Endorse. The AFD was open for over two weeks, and the sources were provided, assessed, and found wanting. Whilst the numbers on each side were relatively closely balanced, the keep side just kept saying "more sources must exist" without actually coming up with them. Stifle (talk) 10:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC) Change to strong endorse because of excessive badgering by the nominator. Stifle (talk) 11:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Referenced content was added daily to the article, look at the edits history, and much more is there to add, particularly when it comes to involvement of this politician with organizations such as UN, EU, Council of Europe, ministerial and ambassadorial meetings and conferences on themes related to Arameans and other Christian communities throughout Near East. Sorabino (talk) 10:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Stifle, compare the state of the article as it was when proposed for deletion, and its state at closure. You will see that it was completely rewritten. I hope that you can actually see the article? Sorabino (talk) 10:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have taken all of the above into account. Stifle (talk) 10:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Stifle, but did you actually take a look at the article, and checked the edit history? I am asking because your initial comments imply that allmoast nothing was added, and that is not true. Do you think that this person is notable enough to have an article? Sorabino (talk) 11:01, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Again, I have taken all the above into account. Please stop WP:BLUDGEONing. Stifle (talk) 11:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- OK, I just wanted to emphasize that it feels awkward to discuss an article that can′t be seen. Sorabino (talk) 11:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Again, I have taken all the above into account. Please stop WP:BLUDGEONing. Stifle (talk) 11:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Stifle, but did you actually take a look at the article, and checked the edit history? I am asking because your initial comments imply that allmoast nothing was added, and that is not true. Do you think that this person is notable enough to have an article? Sorabino (talk) 11:01, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have taken all of the above into account. Stifle (talk) 10:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Visibility of the article. Can someone restore the visibility of the article, just temporarily, during the course of this review process, so that all users can see the content of the article and its edit history? Sorabino (talk) 11:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)