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Q1: Was Skanderbeg Albanian?
A1: Yes, Skanderbeg was an Albanian feudal lord from the Albanian House of Kastrioti.
Q2: What language did they speak in Albania during Skanderbeg's lifetime?
A2: Skanderbeg's native language was Albanian. In the Balkans Italian, Greek, Vlach, Latin, South Slavic languages and Ottoman Turkish were also common during Skanderbeg's lifetime.
Q3: What was the background of Skanderbeg's mother?
A3: Primary sources refer to her as being from Polog, most likely being the Polog valley in modern day North Macedonia. It has also been argued that another Polog, closer to the town of Bitola in the plain of Pelagonia may be the location of the Polog mentioned by Barleti. There is debate among different scholars of whether Skanderbeg's mother was related to the Muzaka family, most likely of Albanian descent, or of the Serb Branković dynasty, or of an unknown Bulgarian family. There is, however, no mention of Voisava on the Branković dynasty family tree.
Q4: Was Skanderbeg a Roman Catholic?
A4: Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg was a Roman Catholic in the period from 1444 to his death in 1468. In the period prior to 1444, he had converted to Islam. The exact date of his conversion is unclear but it must have been between 1426 and 1431. His father, Gjon Kastrioti changed his religion several times (Roman Catholic/Christian Orthodox/Muslim).
Q5: What was Skanderbeg's real name and who were his parents?
A5: His real name was Gjergj Kastrioti, Gjergj is the Albanian version of the name George. His father was Gjon Kastrioti and his mother's name was Voisava Kastrioti
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The serbian theory is based only in the fact that Kastrioti family had Slavic names forgetting that those names are purely orthodox and its a period after Dusan's Empire. Also i saw other claim that Kastrioti got Fiefs from Dusan's Empire forgetting that this does not mean they are serbs. To be clear once and for all. All the family was albanian and had orthodox names just like many albanians. John Kastrioti bought the tower in Hilandar as its sacred for christians and the name of the tower was Albanski Pirg called that by serbian monks themselves. John Muzaka is the first one to write about vojsava last name which was Tipalda and she was from Pollog a region even today inhabited by albanians and one of the regions where other confirmed albanian families were from like Gropa Noble House. John Muzaka wrote the book in 1510 and were memoirs from his father who fought alongside skanderbeg from the Noble Muzaka Family. Other members of the family were named Jela Angjelina just like skanderbeg sisters so this means those names are purely orthodox and Albanian. Because those were the common balkanic names after Dusan's empire. There are real time documents and im naming u barletti's and muzaka's mentionin many albanians with the name stanisha paul gion/giovanni/iuvan that are confirmed to be albanians(by mentioning the fact that they are not slavic) those are common orthodox names that orthodox albanians still use today. Names given by the church. And kastrioti were lords of mat which is one of the first autonomous albanian cities since arbanon principality 240 years before skanderbeg, so they were not surrounded by slavs even in dusan's empire this area was controlled by confirmed Albanian prince Karl Topia from the famous Topia Family. im saying are christian first not slavic names not everything thats slavs use are slavic. Anyway the moral of all this conversation it was that Skanderbeg Lord of Albania was Albanian as documented by both Barletti and Musachio. Arberesh people left albania when Skanderbeg died and still today they speak Albanian. So his family albanian from Mati and Sina. His people albanians. His vassals albanians except Crnojevici who were slavic. His priest Paulus Angelus (Pal Ëngjelli) wrote the earliest albanian baptist verse. "Une te paghesont nperemen te atit birit e spirtit seinjt" at the time when skanderbeg was still alive. Serbian side of the theory is in the names Jovan(which is used only on slavic versions) like Gion & Giovanni in the latin ones and there were many Gions in Albanian Noble Families. Just like Many Maras Jelas and Angelinas. Denissaliaj (talk) 20:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
@Denissaliaj: Many articles about the Kastrioti family are very flawed, from bad use of bibliography to political talking points. What should replace them needs to be correct, not equally flawed but ideologically pleasing. What specific changes would you make based on your overview of bibliography?--Maleschreiber (talk) 00:17, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
I dont want to change anything. I answered to the ones who want to use his name for political reasons with the justification of "serbian name". This is not a youtube comment section Denissaliaj (talk) 16:39, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Should this article be more about the historical figure and less about Albanian national myth making?
This is a well researched article but it fails to be objective about the historical figure and is written within the Albanian myth making tradition. The majority of the sources come from the national awakening and communist era or later authors who relied heavily on those works, which were written to foster Albanian national unity and national myth making. The article does not include anything from the Italian, Serbian or Greek writers, there is a long list of 19th century Greek literature which is ignored. The article is also biased and selective in its facts, any evidence non-conforming to the Albanian myth-making perspective is ignored, whilst even the smallest conforming evidence is disproportionately highlighted. I am not interested in national myth making but the real historical figure - in this regard the article fails.
Skanderbeg’s identity is disputed, which is understandable when you try to project modern national identities to historical figures who lived in a different time. This article should say he was a Byzantine nobleman, also why is he’s name written in the modern Albanian Language? He would have used the Greek language in his life time, both his names have Greek etymology, why not use Greek which would be the lingua franca of his region during that time.
Is there willingness to move towards a historically accurate Georgi Kastrioti, the Byzantine nobleman who fought the Ottoman Empire Misplaced Pages page which includes references from non-Albanian sources or are we happy to stay with the current Albanian myth-making figure Skanderbeg page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.197.202.179 (talk) 00:42, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
There are no sources that name Skanderbeg or Kastrioti Family as "Byzantine" if you want the truth this is the truth as mythical as it may look to you. Denissaliaj (talk) 16:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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I should have noticed this earlier, but the lede says that both Skanderbeg's Rebellion was not nation-wide and the country was united under a single leader. I can see much of the country being united under a single leader, but not all, can someone check the source? Esszet (talk) 22:40, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
view · edit Frequently asked questions
Q1: Was Skanderbeg Albanian?
A1: Yes, Skanderbeg was an Albanian feudal lord from the Albanian House of Kastrioti.
Q2: What language did they speak in Albania during Skanderbeg's lifetime?
A2: Skanderbeg's native language was Albanian. In the Balkans Italian, Greek, Vlach, Latin, South Slavic languages and Ottoman Turkish were also common during Skanderbeg's lifetime.
Q3: What was the background of Skanderbeg's mother?
A3: Primary sources refer to her as being from Polog, most likely being the Polog valley in modern day North Macedonia. It has also been argued that another Polog, closer to the town of Bitola in the plain of Pelagonia may be the location of the Polog mentioned by Barleti. There is debate among different scholars of whether Skanderbeg's mother was related to the Muzaka family, most likely of Albanian descent, or of the Serb Branković dynasty, or of an unknown Bulgarian family. There is, however, no mention of Voisava on the Branković dynasty family tree.
Q4: Was Skanderbeg a Roman Catholic?
A4: Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg was a Roman Catholic in the period from 1444 to his death in 1468. In the period prior to 1444, he had converted to Islam. The exact date of his conversion is unclear but it must have been between 1426 and 1431. His father, Gjon Kastrioti changed his religion several times (Roman Catholic/Christian Orthodox/Muslim).
Q5: What was Skanderbeg's real name and who were his parents?
A5: His real name was Gjergj Kastrioti, Gjergj is the Albanian version of the name George. His father was Gjon Kastrioti and his mother's name was Voisava Kastrioti
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