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Modified the wording of a section to improve accuracy
The position that new age science seeks to unite science and spirituality is non-neutral in favor of new age; "new age science" is a misnomer, as it is not science. It takes a sentence of reading through the science article to see this.
98.127.41.104 (talk) 09:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
p.s. - this is not to say that there is not New Age Pseudoscience (see Masaru Emoto), but the correspondence between real science and intuitive understanding of reality goes back at least as far as Fritjof Capra's 1975 book The Tao of Physics and Gary Zukav's 1979 book The Dancing Wu Li Masters - pseudoscience is not limited to New Age, as in the cold fusion fiasco 1989 - Epinoia (talk) 20:39, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
You seem to have reverted my edit on the grounds of a wording error in my explanation, but it seems that my point still stands; "seek to unite science and spirituality" does not accurately describe the "New Age approach to science," because science relies on testable explanations, which are almost invariably absent on matters of spirituality. I can think of no compromise, as my initial edit was incredibly minor as to the change in meaning, anyway. Added "purportedly" back, in lieu of a better solution. (also I remembered to log in yay)
EDIT: also, am noob and not sure where the revert button is so I undid instead which I think might be wrong but it seems to have achieved the same thing - Somniad (talk) 23:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- it doesn't "purportedly" seek to unite science and spirituality, it actually does seek to unite science and spirituality - whether or not it is successful or not is another question - the intent is to find correlations between our intuitive understanding of reality and the scientific model of the world, it doesn't mean replacing or influencing scientific experimentation or proving spiritual beliefs through science - Epinoia (talk) 23:31, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
I had more reasons typed out, but this is going to become a fairly trivial series of reverts if I don't give up. Somniad (talk) 00:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- you would need to add a source that states that "New Age science purportedly seeks to unite science and spirituality" - otherwise it is your opinion - see WP:RS, WP:VERIFY, WP:NOR - the New Age science section in the article is well researched and gives an overview of the different approaches and crticisms - Epinoia (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
On first sight one (e.g. I) can be confused that New Age and postmodernism are synonymous. Nevertheless, the only relation is a link to Postmodernism in New Age's "Other influences" section.
My quick search shows that the question has been discussed before this talk page and outside of wikipedia (based on Paul Heelas, 1996).
Can someone more knowledgeable comment on the relation and/or edit this article and the Postmodernism article?
Cheater no1 (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
On religious beliefs as private property
"Its belief that all traditions are free for anyone to use, rather than the private property of particular communities, has resulted in New Agers adopting and marketing the practices of other societies."
The only source for the idea that particular communities hold 'private property' of religious beliefs seems to come from the cited essay by Michael York. It's unclear if this framing should be presented by the article as fact or if 'New Agers' actually believe this. Possibly rephrase the article to emphasize that this is the opinion of scholars.
The Rainbow Gathering picture was removed and then restored - but there are some problems with the picture - it is a personal picture taken by a Misplaced Pages editor, it is not from a reliable source - there is no way to verify that it is a New Age gathering - there is no reference in the article to Rainbow Gathering, so there is no context for the photo, what is a Rainbow Gathering? - I agree that the photo should be removed from the article for lacking a verifiable source per WP:VERIFY - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 18:21, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a correlation between these two terms online, although I could not find a definitive reference that says "Rainbow Gatherings" are "New Age". Misplaced Pages says "New Age beliefs are prevalent" at Rainbow Gatherings but does not provide a reference, typical, they should really do something. I am happy for the photo to stay but can not find a reason why, it's the vibe man. What really is New Age what really is a Rainbow, who can tell. Dushan Jugum (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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