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Court of Session action; article cannot be correct

The article describes a decision (here called a 'ruling') of the Court of Session in 1991 and then says "The ruling was appealed to the Lord Advocate, who referred the matter to the Home Secretary, James Callaghan. Callaghan finally ruled in December 1968 that Forbes was the rightful holder of the title, confirming the court's decision". This is visibly nonsense. Court of Session decisions are never, and cannot be, appealed to the Lord Advocate, or to the Home Secretary. They are decisions of a court, indeed the supreme court of Scotland, not a government department. That said, I've no idea what actually happened here- perhaps there was never a Court of Session case at all but some other sort of process? Who knows?46.208.190.86 (talk) 16:21, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I think I've tracked down what happened in general terms, and I've corrected this section of the article. It seems that the court decision was not itself appealed (Barnes makes it very clear there was a court decision, albeit a very discreet one by a single judge), but that the subsequent decision to recognise Forbes as the holder of the title was challenged; the LA was then consulted by the Home Secretary, whose department (at the time) would have been responsible for the official roll.
I am hoping to get hold of Playdon's new book shortly, which sounds like it has traced all the technical details here, and hopefully that will shed a bit more light. Andrew Gray (talk) 19:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Family Request

The family of Sir Ewan, being aware of renewed interest in this case, were concerned to see this article being used to disseminate political & ideological ideas. We are concerned that Sir Ewan's unique life is being used, entirely incorrectly, to push an ideology. We do not wish to participate in any ideology, as this is not who Sir Ewan was. Sir Ewan was not a "transgender man". Sir Ewan was a man, who's birth was recorded incorrectly due to medical knowledge of the time. We would, respectfully, ask that this article not be amended to record opinions as fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheHonGwendoline (talkcontribs) 21:35, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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