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Richard B. Hetnarski Misplaced Pages Page - 7/1/21

Piotrus,

I have added a number of citations where you indicated they were needed in addition to other places. I fear I have "over cited" the article as the list of References is longer than the article. I also removed general statements which I could not verify. Is this sufficient for me to remove the inline [citation needed} notations and are there other modifications that should be made.

Thanks for all your patience and help regarding this article. Cayman42 (talk) 20:08, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Cayman42, Thank you for improving the article. I don't think it is overcited, the high citation density is considered a quality indicator - take a look at recent Misplaced Pages:Featured articles. I'd encourage you to 1) submit your article for the Misplaced Pages:Good article review and 2) add more images (I created the https://commons.wikimedia.org/Category:Richard_B._Hetnarski ). Even if there is no room in the article to host all images, Wikimedia Commons is a media repository that will last as long as Misplaced Pages is (which is, likely much longer than most commercial or private equivalents). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Sabacc

On 7 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sabacc, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that neither holochess (dejarik) nor sabacc, two games invented for the Star Wars films, have a definitive ruleset despite several real-world licensed releases? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sabacc. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sabacc), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Dejarik

On 7 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dejarik, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that neither holochess (dejarik) nor sabacc, two games invented for the Star Wars films, have a definitive ruleset despite several real-world licensed releases? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sabacc. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Dejarik), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Zygmunt Krasiński

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Your GA nomination of Zygmunt Krasi?ski

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DYK for Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz

On 21 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the 1940 Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz, all the male inhabitants of the occupied Polish town, Jews and non-Jews alike, were subjected to hours of abuse by German soldiers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

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Deprod of Riders of the Range (comic strip)

Hi, I deprodded Riders of the Range (comic strip) because a quick Google revealed sources, so there clearly is room for improvement before deletion should be considered. Best wishes NemesisAT (talk) 17:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Prince Nathan

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Tautomers, I appreciate your alerts. I'd like to encourage you to review such articles and consider AFDing them if you think they are not notable, if you have time and will to research them and go through this process. Ps. I asked the editor who removed those template not to do so: . Feel free to comment there as well. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:58, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I probably won't as I don't want to get overly involved, and I have other things going on that I am focusing my energy on. For now, notifying the removal of prods is my core intention since it is quick, easy, and fair. Generally speaking, I don't want to propose AfD's unless it's a very cut and dry case, or it is on a subject where I am familiar with. If at some point me leaving the notes here gets annoying or tiresome, let me know and I'll stop. I also don't intend nor want to speak with the editor in question as I find it entirely pointless and wasteful since there is no intention to change or listen on their part. Though, I'll do so if it is brought up as a broader discussion where community is weighing in, but only to share my opinion, not argue with him. --Tautomers_{(T C)} 08:06, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Second opinion

Greetings, Piotrus. I was looking at Draft:Festival of Extraordinary Movies and Personalities, and it appears to me that the first two sources are not actually independent, but I am by no means an expert, so I thought I'd get your more experienced opinion in this area. Thanks, and happy editing! -2pou (talk) 03:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for checking in with me! doesn't even mention the subject, and is very niche (small university-level news from the section 'for students'). is similar but at least mentions the Festival in a single sentence. Leaving borderline COI aside, neither source is SIGCOV and I'd say the topic, with these sources given, fails WP:GNG by a longshot. Whether the topic (pl:Festiwal Filmów-Spotkań NieZwykłych) is notable, hmmm, I see better sources in some Polish media, reporting from individual editions, like and others (). If we treat such coverage as sufficient for notability, the event is notable, but this article needs better sourcing. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:52, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Multiple Articles

I am leaving this message to let you know that the articles: Trot (Oz), Queen Lurline, Ojo the Lucky, John Dough, Billina, Kabumpo, and Jinnicky the Red Jinn that you tagged for Proposed Deletion were removed by another user, and they failed to leave a note on your talk page about it. They also appear to not have given any reason for doing so. This can be seen in the articles edit history. As you were not informed, I have taken it upon myself to leave this here so you may consider either perusing Articles for Deletion (as they are from the same topic a bundle may be appropriate), or improving and tagging the article with Edit Templates as adding a new PROD is not permitted. Kind regards, --Tautomers_{(T C)} 19:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

For these articles you tagged in Category:Oz (franchise) characters, I suggest you propose mergers to List of Oz characters (created by Baum) or List of Oz characters (post-Baum), as the case may be. Goustien (talk) 05:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Goustien, Good idea. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Can you help improving History of the Jews in Odessa? We can nominate it to DTK once it has better sources. Ratnahastin(t.c) 05:19, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Ratnahastin, It seems DYKable now, I can review it. Mind you, please make sure all content is referenced, I do see some unreferenced paragraphs. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I just started the nomination but for some strange reason there is some error. Can you help fixing it? Ratnahastin(t.c) 08:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Ratnahastin, Hmmm, a weird error. Did you use the script I recommended? It makes things much easier. I'd recommend you ask for your current unfinished nom page to be deleted (you can do so here: WP:AN) and then try again using the script. Please let me know if you have any more questions or troubles. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Its working now ].Ratnahastin(t.c) 05:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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Declined PROD

Hello, I declined the prod at Cyber-Complex Foundation because there appears to be room for expansion from the Polish Misplaced Pages entry, and because it is newly established and active and thus likely to attract more attention in the future. NemesisAT (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

NemesisAT, Neither of those is related to WP:GNG, and note the Polish Misplaced Pages has an AfD about it and so far only the creator is defending it. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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DYK

Hi @Piotrus:.

Sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could review Template:Did you know nominations/Sigismund III Vasa. The article has been upgraded to a GA status yesterday and I am not sure whether I have completed the DYK nomination correctly. Merangs (talk) 04:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Will do :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:38, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

täglich

DYK - my thinking - is for the things not known, and a cantata not yet printed (but recorded and performed) is exactly that. If it was by Bach, not Erlebach, there would be no doubt about a great discovery. Thank you for no AfD, because you are probably right. Will translate the Polish bass today, - help needed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Question

After I made my comment at ARCA here, it occurred to me that you might have entertained the proposal to postpone discussion (for reasons I am uncertain of). Do you no longer intend to follow up the response/justification? Ncmvocalist (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Ncmvocalist, Thank you for asking, but no, I see no reason at all to delay this. In fact, I find it shocking that the answer to what I think is both a key and also very simple question would not be given instantly; it seems to me almost as if this is a case of "I'll delay replying until I know what is the safest way of saying so" or such. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:53, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK Review: DOMELRE

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DYK nomination of The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics)

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Talk page message reply

Thank you for the warm welcome. I have already joined WikiProject Poland () and I will happily continue contributing to this great platform. MatEditzWiki (talk) 09:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

On 10 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy contains an idiosyncratic selection of topics, from "Aliens in Space" to "Rats and Mice"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jan Malkiewicz

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Can you tell me from your experience why Draft:Jan Malkiewicz is not ency? PMG (talk) 14:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Genshin Impact

Regarding your comments on the Genshin Impact GA nomination talk page, I thought you might be interested to know that Draft:Characters of Genshin Impact exists. Just FYI. Haleth (talk) 12:47, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Haleth, Good find. I'd argue this is very much needed in the article, although I am not convinced we need a stand-alone article. The reception section regarding controversies about dark-skinned "exotic" characters is quite interesting too. Is this mentioned in the current article? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

A single paragraph under controversies. A list article is fine for all intents and purposes if and when the main Genshin Impact article grows in size, as long as a common selection criteria is properly defined at its inception. My understanding is that the game has only reached about 40% of the developmental roadmap and story content is constantly uploaded piecemeal through patches. As long as there is a dedicated developmental and reception section, I don't see why a standalone article can't be done provided the in-universe stuff is regulated with emphasis on brevity. As you have pointed out, and speaking from the perspective of someone who witnessed it firsthand, a lot of money is invested by players into the acquisition of new characters. And because the game is so successful, coverage is inevitable. Haleth (talk) 13:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Haleth, I probably wouldn't AfD the separate article, my main point is that this info needs to be in the current article if it is to be a GA. Unless the stand-alone article is published and linked appropriately. Btw, do you play it? I am not ashamed to admit I do :P _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:49, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Not really, but my brother has been playing it obsessively since its launch almost a year ago. I think he's spent more money for in-game currency to spend on the pool of characters then what I've spent on the dozens and dozens of games I've played since the pandemic began. Anyway, the GA nomination appears to be over as the nominator has not been meeting expectations by staying on top of their editing to address the recommendations for improvement. Haleth (talk) 14:38, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Section heading changed

Hi. I saw your post (Special:Diff/1038204284) at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case, specifically regarding your ANI section heading (side note: heading was changed later by party I haven't identified and with no explanation I was made aware of). I have absolutely no desire to get involved with anything, but just so you know the section heading was changed in Special:Diff/1037825309. Hope this helps --DannyS712 (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@DannyS712 Thank you. I have no desire to pursue this beyond pointing out to User:HighInBC that it would be best practice to ping me (the creator of the original heading); also - such a change breaks some redirects, such as the one from BHG's own block log (which now fails to point to the correct section). There may be a template fix for the latter problem, and I'd encourage HighInBC to research how to fix this. Cheers, _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Discovery One and BRD

It's a bit rich that you cite WP:BRD at me in this edit on the talk page when it is you who are not following it. You added a template, I reverted you, then you re-reverted. That is not BRD, and going to the talk page afterwards does not make it BRD. SpinningSpark 09:04, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Bettelmann

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DYK for Statue of Ivan Konev

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DYK nomination of Political prisoners in Poland

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DYK for Zygmunt Krasiński

On 15 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zygmunt Krasiński, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Zygmunt Krasiński, one of Poland's Three Bards, published most of his works anonymously and was known as the Anonymous Poet of Poland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zygmunt Krasiński. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Zygmunt Krasiński), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Worlds of Magic

On 16 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Worlds of Magic, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 2015 video game Worlds of Magic, intended as a spiritual successor to the classic game Master of Magic, failed to impress most reviewers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Worlds of Magic. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Worlds of Magic), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Soviet occupation of Ukraine

I'm sorry to bother you, but I want to ask for help in defending this article. Pro-Russian forces want to remove it. :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jafaz (talk • contribs) 18:31, August 16, 2021 (UTC)

Aha. Congrats on getting yourself topic banned with WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality. I'll pass on joining you, however. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:28, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

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DYK for The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics)

On 19 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although its publisher Dark Horse Comics is American, a significant proportion of artists involved with the comic book series The Witcher have been Polish? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thanks, mate, it has been a surprisingly long time since someone said something nice about my writing :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:03, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Konieczny

You created it and neglected since then:-). I accidentally stumbled upon some good sources, so you may take a look. Lembit Staan (talk) 03:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Nurmuhemmet Tohti

On 26 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nurmuhemmet Tohti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the death of Uyghur writer Nurmuhemmet Tohti has been linked to mistreatment in the Xinjiang internment camps, a claim China denies? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nurmuhemmet Tohti. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nurmuhemmet Tohti), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Yuggoth AfD

Had you noticed this? I've suggested to the editor in question that deleting sourcing during an AfD, regardless of its quality, is quite hard to justify. Do you have thoughts? Jclemens (talk) 00:01, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Jclemens I agree that while AfD is ongoing it's best not to delete referenced content. Unreferenced content can be however removed at any point with WP:V in mind. I've also seen editors rewrite articles during AfD, that can include major TNTing, although that is better done at the point there is at least rough consensus this is the right point of action. (examples that come to mind from recent memory: Earth in science fiction, Chinese proverbs). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:04, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh, to be sure... deleting un- or under-sourced text isn't the issue. If anything, a better text:source ratio makes a page look more notable without changing a thing on the sourcing issue. I just tend to think that even if something is REFBOMB'ed to death... let the AfD run its course before dealing with questionable sourcing (that's not obviously violating copyright or other insta-fix problems, of course), which doesn't seem to be what's happened here or in a couple of others I've brought up at WT:AfD... Jclemens (talk) 06:13, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Jclemens Yep, I agree. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

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August songs

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Komi (go) PROD

This article has obviously been neglected, but the topic is a major one for go. You might note that it exists in 12 Misplaced Pages language versions. The Japanese one, for example, has a number of sensible references. I have removed the PROD nomination and other tags. Charles Matthews (talk) 04:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Charles Matthews Thank you for improving the article, I am fine with removal of the tags if the issues are addressed, and it seems they have been, more or less. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for DOMELRE

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Your GA nomination of The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

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ANI for JPL

Thank you for your attempt to be helpful with your inquiry in Why was JPL blocked?. Unlike you, I do have a personal interest in the matter, so I'm not sure it would have been appropriate or helpful for me to contribute to the discussion of that incident if I had learned about it while it was open. But your comment lead me to your "Morsels of wikiwisdom", and I think they're helpful write-ups, even if I'm saddened by the implications of the section "On the most dangerous of mindsets" and the following ones for the case that brought me here. DavidLeeLambert (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@DavidLeeLambert I am glad you found them useful (even if I think some need a bit of rewrite). I hope JPL will be ok, as I feel they were treated unfairly by the admins (unless there was private evidence involved, but no indication of this was made). In either case, JPL knows, I hope, they can ask me for help, and since they have not done so I assume they don't feel like they need me to push more on this - particularly as I feel admonished - or even threatened - by some admins involved, who seem to have felt offended that I, a non-admin, dared to question how this was dealt with. And I have little desire to walk on that minefield for no good reason :( PS. Just to be clear, I am not saying JPL did no wrong, nor that a block might not have been eventually justified - I got involved in this by accident and commented because as far as I could tell, the block was given too quickly (in 24h), and its scope was too large (again, given the evidence of wrongdoing presented, which seems to be a single PA-violating diff). As I was recently involved in a discussion concerning an admin, for whom much more diffs of PA violations were presented, and that discussion lasted two weeks and ended up with a warning, I feel there are different standards used for different editors, and this saddens me greatly. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz

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Requested move

Hello Piotrus. You have educational background associated with Sociology of the Internet; at Talk:Polandball is interesing discussion about changing name of the article, maybe this one could be interesing for you. Cheers. Dawid2009 (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Dawid2009 Thanks for the ping. Old story, sure, I'll take a look, I am familiar with this topic. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

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Jadis (Walking Dead)

I removed the merge based on major new news about the character breaking after the proposal - the announcement of Jadis return to the franchise with the statement by Scott Gimple that "she is a big part of connecting the CRM and Three Circles mythology that's seen throughout all three series", the multiple positive third party coverage of this, the fact Jadis appears in two shows within the universe, the fact she was last seen taking off an injured Rick in a CRM helicopter and is now seen as part of the CRM in the trailer, means that the importance of the character has definitely increased as has media coverage since the original merge proposal. There's also the upcoming movies (assuming they actually happen) with Polyanna McIntosh confirmed to have a role in the movies as Jadis/Anne. I have added some additional references and googling for "Jadis Walking Dead" provides an enormous number of suitable sources to further flesh out the article. I certainly won't revert if anyone adds merge proposal back but it is my view that the character is of major importance ongoing and that seems to be backed by many suitable references. Citizensmith (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Citizensmith Thank you for the explanation. Before I support an AfD I'll do another WP:BEFORE, but right now neither of the four characters I proposed the merge for meets WP:GNG. In general unless we can write a more significant reception, I am skeptical whether articles on fictional entities deserve stand-alone articles. Not everyone is as strict as me, of course :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Viewpoint understood. Sadly we can't teleport to the end of the season to see how important or not Jadis will be to the last acts of The Walking Dead :-) Citizensmith (talk) 03:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@Citizensmith Worst case, the article can always be restored (I will always support WP:SOFTDEL over any hard del). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Just a bit of rambling and definitely Original Research but thought this might at least amuse you and why I logged back into Misplaced Pages :-)

As you've been involved with military articles though it might interest you that the mysterious CRM don't just do small helicopters. At least 4 Chinooks were used in one operation (10 years in) seen on World Beyond so they have orders of magnitude more resources than any other group including the Commonwealth. The highest ranking member we have seen so far talks with a British accent and has the Union Jack (or Union Flag if you prefer) in her functional piped gas kitchen above the functional tv. They seem to be introducing something completely different from the comics. The idea that somewhere some part of high tech government and military never fell. They have spies everywhere. Jadis had luxury fully furnished containers with electricity, water etc. hidden inside the garbage - not to mention her own helicopter landing pad!

They have research facilities experimenting on zombies and perhaps even radio controlled exploding zombies - Okay that might be jumping the shark :-)

I'm fascinated with where they are going with (and why they wipe out colonies including their own for no good reason) this but could be a big let down. Anyway it got me to login again after years away! Citizensmith (talk) 20:23, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Better add, no I absolutely have no connection with the show. Watched it and spin-offs more for a laugh in recent times so am actually surprised there may be a coherent interesting destination for all shows emerging. Citizensmith (talk) 00:07, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Piotrus. I noticed that you recently added Template:Notability to a number of Films. Films follow their own notability parameter, show please add "Notability|Film|date=September 2021" as the template itself suggests. Dimadick (talk) 21:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to remember this for the future. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Easily one of my favorite AfD discussions of all times

The Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Wikimedia movement discussion sounded really frustrating, but I had a nice laugh the entire time at the pedantry and Wikilawyering. The suggestions to nominate Earth and Humans seem like viable next steps. I enjoyed reading your article and passionate arguments about messiness of social movement sociology and academic writing. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah I am glad to hear that. Incidentally, I've been recently involving in rewriting Earth in science fiction, and while Humans won't be deleted, we did just delete (redirect) Earthling... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

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Do you have these books at home?

This makes me wonder whether these are references you possess. Now I know who to bother when I'm looking for sci-fi detail. I think your BEFORE was well presented. BusterD (talk) 19:31, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@BusterD Thank you. If you count ebooks as "having books at home", then yes, for all but the Greenwood one (also, two of those are online) (and since all but the Visual... are OCRed it makes searching inside even better). . Further good news: you can get them yourself too - thanks to the Z-library. See also related discussion here. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:11, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Wpis o Banku Gospodarki Żywnościowej

Dzień dobry Nie chcemy integracji wpisów. Wpis o BGŻ wyświetla się nieprawidłowo w wyszukiwarkach internetowych na hasła brandowe związane z BNP Paribas - chcemy pojawiać się w wyszukiwarkach zawsze jako BNP Paribas. Bardzo proszę o ustawienie przekierowania. Pozdrawiam

Chcemy to znaczy kto? Jeśli reprezentujecie BNPP, sugeruje zgłosić problem do pl:WP:BAR. A następnie dokonać wsparcia projektu, który opiera się na dotacjach od osób prywatnych i firm. Potem możecie się tym pochwalić marketingowo. Per : "Jeśli ktoś używa Wikipedii, to uważam, że jego obowiązkiem etycznym jest albo przekazywać Wikipedii donacje, albo wspomagać ją swoją pracą: czy to poprawieniem przecinka, czy dopisaniem zdania, akapitu, hasła. ". --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:52, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Szanuję Pańskie zdanie, jednak dotacje dla Wikipedii nie są obowiązkowe. Jeśli Misplaced Pages daje możliwość zgłoszenia potrzeby ustawienia takiego przekierowania swoim czytelnikom, to bardzo proszę o wskazanie podstawy do odmowy wykonania takiego przekierowania.

DYK for Polish proverbs

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Thanks, Piotrus, for this interesting article.--Ipigott (talk) 08:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hi!

Hi Piotrus!

Long time, no see ;) I found something interesting about Lucjan Żeligowski, which piqued my interest and could pique yours too. I found an article from 1955 in the Lithuanian magazine Tėvynės sargas, link to its scanned pages here, which had translated excerpts from parts of Żeligowski's memoirs in the Niepodległość III magazine which were released by the Józef Piłsudski Institute in London. These are the pages: 68, 69, 70, 71, 72. Here is the interesting bit (first in Lithuanian):

1920 spalių 9 d. su kariuomene, sudaryta Lietuvos ir Gudijos sūnų, užėmė Vilnių ne lenkų generolas Želigovskis, bet lietuvis Želigovskis, tas kuris būdamas vaikiščiu ateidavo iš Župronių į Vilnių mokyklos egzaminams ir nakvodavo ant miesto parkų suolų. <...> Tad nebuvau atsitiktinis atsiplakėlis Lietuvoje, o mano giminė turi ilgas tradicijas ir tarnavo tėvynės gynyboj. Mano svajonė buvo gyventi su tautiečiais Vilniaus žemėj. Neskirsčiau jų į lenkus, gudus ir žemaičius. Būdamas lietuviu, niekad nebuvau nustojęs būti lenku. Šios dvi sąvokos yra tarpusavy susipynusios. Jos viena kitą papildo. Visa tai kalbu dėl to, kad įrodyčiau, jog visa tai buvo kažkas daugiau, negu lenkų generolo Vilniaus užėmimo akcija.

In English: "On 9 October 1920, with the army, made up of the sons of Lithuania and Gudija (old Lithuanian name for Belarus), Vilnius was occupied not by the Polish general Żeligowski, but by the Lithuanian Żeligowski, who came as a child from Župroniai to Vilnius for school exams and spent the night on the benches of city parks. <... paragraph with examples from his ancestors fighting for Lithuania...> So I was not an accidental out-of-nowhere in Lithuania, but my family has a long tradition and served in the Fatherland's defence. My dream was to live with my countrymen in the Vilnius region. I did not divide them into Poles, Belarusians and Samogitians. As a Lithuanian, I never stopped being Polish. These two concepts are intertwined. They complement each other. I am talking about all this in order to prove that it was all more than a Polish general's seizure of Vilnius."

Interesting food for thought.--Cukrakalnis (talk) 20:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cukrakalnis Indeed, interesting. I suggest you post this on his talk page for others to see. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Just did that. --Cukrakalnis (talk) 13:12, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Space travel in science fiction

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DYK for The Gods from Outer Space

On 27 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Gods from Outer Space, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that while The Gods from Outer Space has eight volumes, only four were published in English? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Gods from Outer Space. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Gods from Outer Space), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Off the verandah

On 30 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Off the verandah, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that criticism of armchair theorizing in anthropology has resulted in scholars "coming down off the verandah"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Off the verandah. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Off the verandah), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Žukauskas

Hello Piotrus, (my dear tag-teammate pal :) ) I would like to learn your view here. It's regarding Sivestras Žukauskas and his apparent Polish roots. When you get a chance, no rush. Thanks - GizzyCatBella🍁 10:07, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Huh. I looked at the article, it seems pretty well written. His Polish roots are of minor importance and are mentioned in his early biography section, that's probably enough? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that’s what I think too. - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:28, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

AfD nominations

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		While we don't always agree on outcomes, your recent AfD nominations of fictional topics have been role models of how to do and document WP:BEFORE such that it is obvious that effort and Misplaced Pages-centric thinking went into the nomination. Your including WP:ATD possibilities goes a long way to making AfD a more irenic place, and should be so recognized. Jclemens (talk) 17:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dejarik

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Your GA nomination of Dejarik

The article Dejarik you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Dejarik for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of GhostRiver -- GhostRiver (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA 2021 review update

Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.

The following had consensus support of participating editors:

1. Corrosive RfA atmosphere

   The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.

2. Level of scrutiny

   Many editors believe it would be unpleasant to have so much attention focused on them. This includes being indirectly a part of watchlists and editors going through your edit history with the chance that some event, possibly a relatively trivial event, becomes the focus of editor discussion for up to a week.

3. Standards needed to pass keep rising

   It used to be far easier to pass RfA however the standards necessary to pass have continued to rise such that only "perfect" candidates will pass now.

4. Too few candidates

   There are too few candidates. This not only limits the number of new admin we get but also makes it harder to identify other RfA issues because we have such a small sample size.

5. "No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins

The following issues had a rough consensus of support from editors:

6. Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere)
   Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere.
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   There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas.
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oikaterion

You asked to be pinged. I was able to check the source quoted by one of the websites. The author Thayer is said to have been a Unitarian, so that the modern introduction advises caution, but a work of 1835 that is still being reprinted and cited is clearly worthy of being regarded as "reliable". Do not bother to reply. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:21, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Some assistance needed.

I accepted the draft for Bernardine Church of Our Lady Queen of Peace in Bydgoszcz on the basis of the references from the Polish WP. I've been challenged over my inaccuracy on some other acceptances, and I would be exceedingly grateful if you could confirm that I did this right. DGG ( talk ) 19:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@DGG The topic is notable, reasonably well written and referenced enough not to be deleted. I think this is fine for the mainspace, even if it has issues such as insufficient footnotes that make it illegible for DYK/GA status at present. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:14, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Space travel in science fiction

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Space travel in science fiction you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Artem.G -- Artem.G (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dejarik

The article Dejarik you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Dejarik for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of GhostRiver -- GhostRiver (talk) 15:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Academese

On 11 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Academese, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that academese has been criticized for being unnecessarily complex and in extreme cases, purposefully discriminating and obfuscating? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Academese. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Academese), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I've been loving your DYKs recently - marvellous prose. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Your hook reached 10,855 views (452.3 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of October 2021—nice job! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:06, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Space travel in science fiction

The article Space travel in science fiction you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Space travel in science fiction for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Artem.G -- Artem.G (talk) 13:21, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

deletion of new article Allstar PZL Glider

Thank you for your message!

I am new in Misplaced Pages. Before you decide with other Wikipedians to delete this article, I want to give you my opinion, why this article should stay in the English Misplaced Pages. I would be very happy if you could give me the chance to make this article better. The main critic is that the text does not meet the notability guidelines for companies and organizations and it should be proofed by reliable second sources.

First I want to explain why this article is part of the modern polish and international history of aviation in the special field of gliders.

Second I want to explain, which reliable second sources I have used. I put a lot of effort into this research.

1. Polish companies play an important role in the history of gliding and sailplanes, which is going back to the 1940s. The state owned development centre and glider production PZL /SZD company was the biggest in the world in the 1970s. Unfortunately, PZL Bielsko had to open an insolvency proceedings in 1996 after the changes in at the end of the 1980s. A few small polish companies are continuing this heritage. The history and development of modern polish gliders of the last 30 years is not displayed in Misplaced Pages. These companies as ”type certificate holder” are responsible in technical aspect for a huge fleet of thousands of gliders which are flown worldwide by different pilots. The glides have been produced before 1990 and after. Young polish glider aviation industry takes a important role nowadays in the international glider pilot community. For example, the world champion ship of aerobatic gliding is hold with the polish glider Swift S-1 and MDM-1 Fox by one of this companies which started the design in the 1990s. Allstar PZL Glider is one of them and is situated on the original grounds auf PZL Bielsko. The second country with a history of glider innovation and production is Germany, which goes back to the Second World War. A few companies (smaller than PZL) took part in the development of German aviation industry. This companies are still operating ad some were founded in the 1990s or took over other glider companies. Six of them, have their own English Misplaced Pages article. In comparison to this only one modern Polish glider company has its own article in Misplaced Pages. Both countries have important role in the innovation of gliding. I think the modern history should be represented equally.

2. This article can be proofed by second sources only, without quoting from the official company web page. Four different second sources from specialised publication were used for this article. Unfortunately, no English scientific book about modern Polish glider history has been published jet. Nobody else than the tow Polish authors Krzysztof Luto and Tomasz Murawski has written so much details about the last 30 years of Polish and SZD glider history. Tomasz Murawski has published detailed technical articles about the engineering process and the related history in several of his scientific books. His books from 2016 until 2021 are important resources of information. Krzysztof Luto is author of the biggest polish aircraft web page , which have been quoted several times in Misplaced Pages. Another field of second sources are the different European aviation magazines. For example, the English magazine “Sailplane & Gliding” by the British Gliding Association. It is an association for regulation and operation gliding in the UK for clubs and pilots. The German magazine “Aerokurier” specialized on private aviation by the publisher “Motorsport Presse Stuttgart” is independent, too. If this sources are not enough the Danish “Nordig Gliding” magazine from the “national flyverforbund” can be quoted in addition.

I am happy to shorten and rewrite the article and give other quotations for the topics in the article.

I would much appreciate, if you can give an answer to this message. Beeing new in Misplaced Pages, I have not understand fully how "WP:ECHO" works. I would be happy to get you reply on my talk page, because i do not want to miss it.

P.glider (talk) 16:51, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Companion to J.R.R. Tolkien GAN

Piotrus, I'm a bit surprised you're nominating this without even asking me. I wrote the article and am currently putting other Middle-earth articles through GAN; this one was due to join them in due course. I'd really be glad if you could withdraw given your minor involvement, basically just at the DYK stage. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Source check request

Greetings,

following up from the conversation at User talk:Iridescent, can I ask you to check if the additions here are supported by the source? I don't know any Polish myself and I don't know about the DeepL tool's reliability for Polish->English. Source should be publicly available. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:44, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus I checked those parts and they seem correct, all good :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:21, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021

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This Month in Education: October 2021

Halo Array

Could you open a GAR discussion about Halo Array? It contains a lot of issues, several unsourced statements, and has no reception section either, which it probably fails WP:GNG, thanks. 59.13.196.69 (talk) 21:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Why don't you do it yourself? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kaczyzm

On 30 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kaczyzm, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Kaczyzm is a pejorative term describing the political ideology of Polish politicians Lech and Jarosław Kaczyński and their Law and Justice party? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kaczyzm. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kaczyzm), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

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ANI, ARS

I don't know who you are talking about here but it took me about an hour (maybe 2?) to put together the proposal that, at the moment, seems to be leading to a topic-ban. I think, if you want something to be done ever, this would be a good moment to make a similar proposal. (Obviously, as the second one shows, it must be thought out at least a little bit.) --JBL (talk) 00:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@JayBeeEll Hmmm. Ok, I took a stab, although it took me several hours to produce something that meets my standards of evidene. Let's see if this solves anything. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:33, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Did you ping me?

I've long since given up hope of solving that particular area of the encyclopedia with sanctions for the disruptive conduct of the users involved, since to non-specialists (virtually all of the admin corps when it comes to any particular topic) it tends to look like one "side" trying to "get rid of their opponents". Yeah, it's unfortunate that they can create as much trouble for the rest of us as they do on, for example, Talk:Mottainai, but I've become resigned to the belief that it's just something whose continued existence we have to tolerate. Anyway, for some reason I can't find where you pinged me (your comment beginning While I am still not convinced we can solve much here...?), but I might not be much help anyway. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:03, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@Hijiri88 I quoted you and/or linked a diff if yours in the section Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal_#3:_Topic_ban_or_other_restrictions_for_Andrew_Davidson. You may not find it with a CTRL+F as I collapsed my lenghty evidence sections for readability, sorry. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

GA Notice

GA Notice
Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Earth in science fiction that you recently nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. ––FormalDude talk 07:47, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Since we lack an "Addition by Subtraction" barnstar ...

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For your able and comprehensive collection of evidence, and your eloquent proposal, in AD's tban. Ravenswing 21:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

ANI

The more you do, the more diffs there are to collect and Andrew has done much. I am sure has been over the line a few times. I think we can all support something short of a full Neutering. I mean nobody wants to be a Eunuch. :o

I was off last year and it seems the feud between the two sides has turned into something more. I know I had a part in that based on my own interactions. This is like a blood feud now. Like nothing short of exile will be acceptable. But maybe something short could be?

I know you are a thoughtful person and a careful editor - I avoided most of your AfDs recently because I knew you reasoned them out ...and you know a lot more than me about the area you work on. Andrew is one of my friends on this project - he edits in areas away from me. I am not his keeper just as he is not mine. But I know Andrew has to be in quiet reflection now. Like I am.

Cheers and best wishes! Lightburst (talk) 22:41, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@Lightburst Like I said at ANI, I'd prefer more nuanced, tailored restrictions, but it "takes two to tango", for better or worse, and I have yet to see Andrew acknowledge any form of criticism. He has never, ever, acknowledged he might have been wrong, that his sources are off topic, or that proving summaries for deprods might be a good idea. If you want to mediate, that's great, but I don't think I am the one who needs to be convinced to make amends here. If you can convince Andrew to promise some voluntary restrictions, it may help to prevent the harshest outcomes. But again, it's not me you should be talking to, I already said I prefer lighter remedies at ANI. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

You wrote a powerful proposal and I am just glad you did not write mine. I am sure I will not get concessions and friction goes back a decade. I have not even been here long enough to know for sure why he is referred to as Colonel. Lightburst (talk) 01:15, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

@Lightburst Re, Colonel, this is because User:Colonel Warden (registered in 2006) was Andrew's old account. Regarding powerful proposals, well, I just collected some evidence, and sadly, I have some experience doing so. Frankly, nothing to be envious, it's a depressing skill, really. I'd much rather spend those few hours writing a new DYK than collecting evidence, partiularly as I do know that Andrew is trying to help in his own way. Sadly, sometimes trying to help is not enough to be actually helpful (see User:Piotrus/Morsels_of_wikiwisdom#On_the_most_dangerous_of_mindsets). Regarding your situation, I have not been following it in detail, but a, as I said at ANI, the evidence presented against you is IMHO not sufficient to warrant a major sanction, and b, as we both know, we have not interacted much, so I don't have much of a personal opinion on your case. Andrew "worked" on getting my attention for several years, and refused several of my attempts to resolve this when I reached out to him on his talk page, stickling to his belief that he has done no wrong. Well, you reap what you sow, as they say. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:05, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Just came here to thank you for the excellent analysis you provided at ANI. I confess that had I even tried to do that, I would have abandoned the attempt after a couple of months. Again thanks. -Roxy the sceptical dog. wooF 16:57, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

My thanks as well. I have to admit I had been saving the links I added for some time now for when this came, especially after his calling me a dog and a fool via Proverbs. Reywas92 19:52, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

And well ... Andrew's chief sin wasn't that he's incapable of admitting that he's ever wrong, or that his views fly in the face of consensus practice. It's his pervasive bad faith. He is quite capable of shrill cries that a nom isn't following WP:BEFORE in one AfD and sneering at suggestions that he ought to do so himself in the next; he will jeer at an editor for not complying with some alphabet soup acronym in one discussion and defy it himself in the next ... and he not only has no shame in refbombing, but does so without bothering to see if they have the slightest thing to do with the subject in question. He isn't here to improve the encyclopedia; he's here to win, and he's shown very few scruples when it comes to defeating his "enemies." Ravenswing 21:52, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree with the comments above, you made an excellent analysis at ANI and I think the outcome will be beneficial to the entire project. best regards Mztourist (talk) 04:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Concern about your use of PROD

I have just deprodded Corwin of Amber and, as I said in my edit comment, I was concerned about your use of PROD. I know you to be a responsible editor and rather supposed you had just made a bit of a mistake. Looking further, I am less sure. I see at Talk:The Pattern (The Chronicles of Amber)#Notability you very properly raise a notability issue for discussion. You say An alternative to deletion would be merger to The Chronicles of Amber but due to OR problem I see here I am not sure if anything warrants merging?. But you also say you contemplate using PROD on this article. How can PROD be appropriate in your mind under these circumstances? Even if your assessment is correct and everyone implicitly or explicitly were to agree with you, how could it be that you reasonably think that this article title should become a red link? Would not the appropriate bold edit be to change it to a redirect and not to seek deletion? Thincat (talk) 10:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

@Thincat In the past I proposed a "proposed redirect" system which should follow the same path as "proposed deletion" (a template with a week review period and category enabling easy review), but it did not get traction. "Just redirecting" is the akin to "stealth deletion", since it is less visible than prodding (there is no redirect review or patrol AFAIK). Anyway, anyone can decline PROD and anyone can redirect the article. As for Corwin, the article is low quality and fails WP:GNG. I don't believe there is anything to merge, so we can either do a "stealth deletion" by redirecting (assuming anyone thinks the redirect itself is searchable and has merit) or AfD. Would you like to redirect it? Otherwise I'll either send it to AfD, as I dislike "stealth deletion by redirecting" on principle or redirect it myself since technically we have a review here (assuming you don't object). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

I have a great deal of sympathy with what you say (and I didn't know you had suggested "proposed redirect" in the past). Perhaps, without community consensus or documentation in WP:PROD, it should not be done however. I have also seen complaints about "stealth deletion" but I tend to think for inexperienced editors undoing an inappropriate redirect is more straightforward and intuitive than WP:REFUND. I won't make any change to the article, whatever its state, because I am utterly clueless about the genre or writing about fiction. Thank you for the suggestion though. Thincat (talk) 19:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year and the finalists can relax! Our Champion this year is The Rambling Man (submissions), who amassed over 5000 points in the final round, achieving 8 featured articles and almost 500 reviews. It was a very competitive round; seven of the finalists achieved over 1000 points in the round (enough to win the 2019 contest), and three scored over 3000 (enough to win the 2020 event). Our 2021 finalists and their scores were:

1. The Rambling Man (submissions) with 5072 points
2. Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 3276 points
3. Amakuru (submissions) with 3197 points
4. Epicgenius (submissions) with 1611 points
5. Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1571 points
6. BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 1420 points
7. Hog Farm (submissions) with 1043 points
8. Bloom6132 (submissions) with 528 points

All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the featured article prize, for 8 FAs in round 5.
• Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 5.
• Gog the Mild (submissions) wins the featured topic prize, for 13 articles in a featured topic in round 5.
• Epicgenius (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 63 GAs in round 4.
• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the good topic prize, for 86 articles in good topics in round 5.
• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the reviewer prize, for 68 FAC reviews and 213 GAN reviews, both in round 5.
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Your GA nomination of Earth in science fiction

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WP:Deletion to Quality Award for Earth in science fiction

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		For your contributions to bring Earth in science fiction (prior candidate for deletion at: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Earth in science fiction (2nd nomination)) to Good Article status, I hereby present you The Deletion to Quality Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Misplaced Pages's readers! TompaDompa (talk) 17:40, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Japan and the Holocaust

On 7 November 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Japan and the Holocaust, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that while the Empire of Japan did not actively participate in the Holocaust, they were found to have committed holocausts of their own? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Japan and the Holocaust. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Japan and the Holocaust), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 47

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DYK nomination of Hans (comic book)

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Your GA nomination of The Volunteer (book)

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Marian Zembala

Cześć. Treść tego hasła co najmniej oburza – brak tu podstawowych danych biograficznych oraz jakiejkolwiek wzmianki o naukowych osiągnięciach MZ, obficie za to serwuje się "krytykę" bez jakichkolwiek przypisów. Śmiech i płacz budzą m.in. stwierdzenia: "Instead, she appointed a group of relative political unknowns to her government in an effort to regain voters' trust and avoid defeat in the upcoming elections. The appointments included a former Olympic rower, Adam Korol, who was named sports and tourism minister, and Zembala who became the new minister for health." albo "The selection of Zembala as Health Minister was criticized by journalists as they emphasized that he was a great doctor, but healing the current situation in the Polish health service requires a lot of economic knowledge.". To wszystko bez przypisów. Mam nadzieję, że wkrótce zrobicie z tym porządek. Moja znajomość angielskiego mi na to nie pozwala. Pozdrawiam Horgelblob (talk) 15:30, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

@Horgelblob Cześć. Jak potrafisz się oburzyć na treść, potrafisz też i ją poprawić bądź usunąć. Dp dzieła - tak działa Misplaced Pages. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:13, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2017 crimes in South Korea

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Featuring your work on Misplaced Pages's front page: DYKs

I would love to do this but don't know how to use the user script. Is it just a text to insert in the code or is there more to it? Thank you Eli185 (talk) 11:21, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

adding of WikiProject keywords to talk pages

Many thanks about adding a WikiProject Keyword on any new articles that Iam creating. I will do it in future. Regards John Prattley (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

1. http://tmdale.prv.pl/
2. http://www.samolotypolskie.pl/
3. https://www.sailplaneandgliding.co.uk/
4. https://www.aerokurier.de/
5. https://nordicgliding.com/